Muhammad (pbuh), the Last Prophet

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Paarsurrey,
I have a question for you…
Ive read on a couple of other threads about the Ahmari, the branch of Islam you are in, that 99% of the muslim population does not agree with what you believe, I think it was Ham that said this in another thread.
What is the difference between mainstream Islam and Ahmari Islam?
I just want a couple of differences, not a link to read about it.
Thanks
dolphinlove
 
dolphinlove said:
What is the difference between mainstream Islam and Ahmari Islam?
I just want a couple of differences, not a link to read about it.
Thanks
dolphinlove
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Hi
The difference among the TraditionalMuslims (whatever their denomination) and the AhmadiMuslims is that we believe that the peaceful PromisedMessiahImamMahdi, who was to come in the latter days, according to the prophecies of Muhammad Khatamun Nabiyyeen and who was to fight (metaphoric) with the Anti-Christ, and who would be a rightful Judge among the denominations (and also as per prophecies of JesusYeshuaIssa , OTBible and all the Revealed Scriptures of all the Religions of the World) has in fact come in the shape of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, metaphorically not literally and physically, no other person would come now as a Messiah or Second coming of Messiah, never at all, till eternity they could wait or wail none would come.

I repeat the above in points.
The difference among the TraditionalMuslims (whatever their denomination) and the AhmadiMuslims is that:
  1. that we believe that the peaceful PromisedMessiahImamMahdi,
  2. who was to come in the latter days, according to the prophecies of Muhammad Khatamun Nabiyyeen
  3. and who was to fight (metaphoric) with the Anti-Christ,
  4. and who would be a rightful Judge among the denominations
  5. (and also as per prophecies of JesusYeshuaIssa , OTBible
  6. and all the Revealed Scriptures of all the Religions of the World)
  7. has in fact come in the shape of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad,
  8. metaphorically not literally and physically,
  9. no other person would come now as a Messiah or Second coming of Messiah, never at all,
  10. till eternity they could wait or wail none would come.
    Thanks
    GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing and All-Wise; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
You know, when the prophet Jesus returns to earth, I will send him an email asking him who is truly the last “prophet.” Since he is in heaven now, he should know the answer, right?
 
MugenOne said:
You know, when the prophet Jesus returns to earth, I will send him an email asking him who is truly the last “prophet.” Since he is in heaven now, he should know the answer, right?
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In the Bible Jesus says that there would be no more true prophets. He also warned of false prophets and gave things to look for that would help identify them.
 
With all due respect, Muhammad was a pagan and a heretic, he was not a prophet.

And I do believe if he was so important, people would not abbreviate “pbuh” but would spend the time to spell out PEACE BE UPON HIM but they do not. Obviously, he is not so important as anyone may have thought. Yet most Muslims use that abbreviation. How odd.

Muhammad was NOT the “last prophet”, he was not a prophet AT ALL, and he has led billions of people astray. Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Light. And I pray that all followers of Muhammad will finally see the truth of that.
 
MelanieAnne said:
Muhammad was NOT the "last prophet.
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Hi
All Muslims believe the following verse:33:41
" Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah has full knowledge of all things."
Please don’t mind, I respect you faith, but **Muhammad has sealed the fate of Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism **etc, etc, now no DivineGuide or PromisedMessiahImamMahdi could come into thier folds as through Muhammad, GodAllahYHWH has destined that DivineGuide would come into Muhammad’s followers to establish peaceful Unity among nations, religions, faiths and denominations. You could witness the validity of this statement/verse for yourself.
Please take it easy its just a discussion to reach the truth.
Thanks
IThe West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing and All-Wise; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
With all due respect to “paarsurrey” but if you want people to read what you write, don’t run all the words together. I don’t read gibberish & that’s what that is. Sorry!

Learn to write or learn to live with the fact that people are not going to pay attention to your nonesense writing.
 
Kadaveri said:
Matthew 7:15 says no such thing (infact if anything it implies the opposite).
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Can you please explain your personal interpretation of this verse?
If it seems to you that we do not understand it. That would be most helpful.
 
I’ve read some of the posts on this thread…and well as a Baha’i thought I would post my belief about Prophet Muhammad. We believe Muhammad was the seal of prophecy or the prophetic age and that age ended around 1260 AH for Muslims and 1844 AD (Gregorian Calendar) for Christians… So for us Baha’is Prophet Muhammad fits into some of the prophetic revelations mentioned in the Book of Revelation as it is about we believe the areas in the middle east. The age of prophecy ended around 1844/1260 and the age of fulfillment of prophecy began at that time for us Baha’is with the Declaration of the Bab. We call the succeeding prophets and Messengers of God progressive revelation and we believe it is continuous and is not necessarily restricted to the planet.

So Baha’is accept Qur’an as an authentic revelation from God and that Prophet Muhammad was a Manifestation of God.

There have been over the centuries prejudice and hostility directed at Qur’an and Muslims have sometimes returned a degree of hostility as well toward the Bible, but we Baha’is believe they can be reconciled.
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Verisimilitude said:
I’ll watch that one when I have some time, thanks. Here is another movie worth watching and is much shorter and to the point.
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You read almost 1/3 of the Quran. Read the rest 2/3 as well. Most of it is good news for the believers of One God that Jesus taught.

“The Lord OUR God is one Lord” -Mark 12:29
 
Khalfan said:
You read almost 1/3 of the Quran. Read the rest 2/3 as well. Most of it is good news for the believers of One God that Jesus taught.

“The Lord OUR God is one Lord” -Mark 12:29
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The hate and violence over shadow the good. All of the good in the Qur’an is already in the Bible (OT/NT). The Qur’an brings nothing new except a history of violence and commands to convert, subjugate or kill all non-Muslims.

… oh I forgot, it also introduced the command that a man should beat his wife to keep her in line.
 
MelanieAnne said:
With all due respect, Muhammad was a pagan and a heretic, he was not a prophet.

And I do believe if he was so important, people would not abbreviate “pbuh” but would spend the time to spell out PEACE BE UPON HIM but they do not. Obviously, he is not so important as anyone may have thought. Yet most Muslims use that abbreviation. How odd.

Muhammad was NOT the “last prophet”, he was not a prophet AT ALL, and he has led billions of people astray. Jesus is the Way the Truth and the Light. And I pray that all followers of Muhammad will finally see the truth of that.
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‘Peace be upon him’ is not to write but to say when the name of Prophet Mohamed given or heard. When you see Jn., Mk., Mt., Lk. you don’t read it as it is but say the name John, Mark etc. right? Peace be upon him is a pray and we do that with full words, not just spell ‘PBUH’.

There is one basic reason we accept him as the last prophet. HE SAID HE IS THE LAST PROPHET. He preached the same message what Jesus (pbuh) and Moses (pbuh) brought.

Did Jesus (pbuh) ever say he is God? No. But you believe that from the words of others.

You believe about Jesus (pbuh) what he never said. We believe about Mohamed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh) what they said.
 
Khalfan said:
‘Peace be upon him’ is not to write but to say when the name of Prophet Mohamed given or heard. When you see Jn., Mk., Mt., Lk. you don’t read it as it is but say the name John, Mark etc. right? Peace be upon him is a pray and we do that with full words, not just spell ‘PBUH’.

There is one basic reason we accept him as the last prophet. HE SAID HE IS THE LAST PROPHET. He preached the same message what Jesus (pbuh) and Moses (pbuh) brought.
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And that makes it official! :rolleyes: He did not preach the same things that Jesus did! He taught nothing but hate and destruction to those who wisely did not accept his fraudulent claims!
Did Jesus (pbuh) ever say he is God? No. But you believe that from the words of others.

You believe about Jesus (pbuh) what he never said. We believe about Mohamed (pbuh) and Jesus (pbuh) what they said.
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Yes, he did claim he was God! He did not say “I am God, worship me” as Muslims keep stating ad nauseam, but in so many other ways as have been posted here countless times.

Vickie
 
chet said:
biblegateway.com
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Giving God a name was essential in Christianity since the quote of Jesus ‘Before abraham was, I am’. Christians are still in confusion that the usage of ‘I am’ of Jesus (pbuh) was reffering to his eternity before abraham or reffering to the name that ‘revealed’ to Moses. Check the below.

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark%2016:9-20;&version=31;

It says,

((The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20.))

Adding something to Bible as and when it needed is very easy and done many times.

Moses (pbuh) said ‘God is one and only’ (Not 1 in 3 or 3 in 1). –Duet 6:4

Jesus (pbuh) said the same ‘God is one and only’ (Not 1 in 3 or 3 in 1). –Mark 12:29

Mohamed (pbuh) emphasized the same. He was been told to say the same in Noble Quran, ‘God is one and only’ (Not 1 in 3 or 3 in 1). –112:1
 
Khalfan said:
You read almost 1/3 of the Quran. Read the rest 2/3 as well. Most of it is good news for the believers of One God that Jesus taught.

“The Lord OUR God is one Lord” -Mark 12:29
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I have read the whole Qur’an at least twice, and sections of it many more times. Most of it is threats and bad plagerism. Muhammads view of Jesus is not even a simple misunderstanding. It is a lie.
 
Khalfan said:
Giving God a name was essential in Christianity since the quote of Jesus ‘Before abraham was, I am’. Christians are still in confusion that the usage of ‘I am’ of Jesus (pbuh) was reffering to his eternity before abraham or reffering to the name that ‘revealed’ to Moses. Check the below.

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=mark%2016:9-20;&version=31;

It says,

((The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20.))

Adding something to Bible as and when it needed is very easy and done many times.

Moses (pbuh) said ‘God is one and only’ (Not 1 in 3 or 3 in 1). –Duet 6:4

Jesus (pbuh) said the same ‘God is one and only’ (Not 1 in 3 or 3 in 1). –Mark 12:29

Mohamed (pbuh) emphasized the same. He was been told to say the same in Noble Quran, ‘God is one and only’ (Not 1 in 3 or 3 in 1). –112:1
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Do you honestly believe that it’s impossible for the God who created the universe and everything in it to be a Trinity? That shows how awesome God really is, and not the one dimensional cardboard deity that Muslims believe in, who is so puny as to only be able to those things which his creations think he can do!

:yawn: Vickie
 
Khalfan said:
You read almost 1/3 of the Quran. Read the rest 2/3 as well. Most of it is good news for the believers of One God that Jesus taught.

“The Lord OUR God is one Lord” -Mark 12:29
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How can this be?

Jesus taught of a God who was please by turning the other cheek; while the Q’uran teaches slaughter is better than persecution
 
thistle said:
The Koran is not a miracle. Its a book full of lies. It denies the divinity of Jesus, for example.
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You better read once, before you say that. Have ever read Bible at least? Read the Bible. You won’t find even a single quote of Jesus (pbuh) says he is God. But you assume it.
 
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