Muhammed suppose to marry Virgin Mary in paradise.

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Dear Brothers and Sisters,

With respect to the OP that our brother Sam has made, to tell the truth, I am really-really shock and couldn’t believe my eyes reading Sam’s posting. I wish that I was wrong believing my eyes.
Unfortunately, so far I have not seen any reply or refutation from our Muslims brothers. In this case, my brothers and sisters, let us be more patience, and keep trying to be objective.

The most important thing I am waiting is, the response from our Muslims brothers. In this case, I promise and am willing to put more care to each response word by word. I promise to click whatever link they provide regarding this issue, as long as written in english (I don’t speak arabic, that’s the reason).
 
swariffin said:
I am really-really shock and couldn’t believe my eyes reading Sam’s posting. I wish that I was wrong believing my eyes.
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:console: Don’t worry brother, Satan will never win.
(I don’t speak arabic, that’s the reason).
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And that’s the problem, to fully understand Islam & Muhammed, someone needs to know Arabic, a good example of that is our fellow Arabic Christians at Alhayat TV, when they started to show the contradictions in Islam, they created a lot of headache for the Islamic countries, although there are some English TV stations showing some contradictions, but they will never reach the level of depth as Alhayat TV station.
 
morning_star777 said:
dear sam_777,i am really very upset.now i know that my knowledge about muhammed is few!
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They were hiding the truth from you by translating false data for you and telling you not to recognize hadiths to screen Muhammed.
So in so called heaven muhammed want to marry our blessed “Mother of God”?(if i misunderstand then pls correct me).
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Satan will not win, let him say whatever he wants, and just see what will happen to him and his false prophet on the Judgement day:

(Revelation 16:13)
“Then I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet.”

(Revelation 19:20)
“But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs on his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshiped his image”

(Revelation 20:10)
“And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
Jesus save me from islam&muhammed!Who want to marry our lord’s mother in heaven,I think he is nothing but a… !.some one pls fill the blank.
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A demon possessed man. 😉
 
dear brother sam_777,thank you for filling this blank with a perfect word;).and your reference from revelation is also very very perfect&true.:hug1:.Jesus bless you.:amen:
 
I don’t know… could it be but a rather fantastic interpretation of a rather recent kind in one particular branch (or part of one branch) of Islam… or a distortion invented by radical “Islamists” of the terrorist kind? What’s your source for this one statement, Sam_777?
 
I am surprised that this one seems to be so easily swallowed just like that…
Maybe our Muslim usual participants find this one too insulting for their faith to even consider answering something here, on the simple ground that it’s not worth it…
Anyhow, I just can’t buy it! The explanation doesn’t sound… sound enough this time.
 
Lapell said:
I am surprised that this one seems to be so easily swallowed just like that…
Maybe our Muslim usual participants find this one too insulting for their faith to even consider answering something here, on the simple ground that it’s not worth it…
Anyhow, I just can’t buy it! The explanation doesn’t sound… sound enough this time.
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Dear Lapell,

Objectively speaking, you are correct brother. I admit that I sometimes did not spend much time clicking the link provided by our muslim brothers. This time, I promise to spend more time digesting their words.
 
Sam_777 said:
I know all of you will be angry here :mad:, but sorry that’s what’s being taught to the Muslim children and in the Mosques’ lectures. :banghead:

Authentic Ibn-Kathir Tafseer for (Quran 5:66):
“It may be, if he divorced you (all), that Allah will give him in exchange Consorts better than you, who submit (their wills), who believe, who are devout, who turn to Allah in repentance, who worship (in humility), who travel (for Faith) and fast, previously married or virgins.”

In English:
Previously married = Aseyah (The Wife of Pharaoh).
Virgins = Mary (The Virgin).

In Arabic:
"وقوله تعالى‏:‏ ‏{‏ثيبات وأبكاراً‏}‏ أي منهن ثيبات، ومنهن أبكاراً، ليكون ذلك أشهى إلى النفس، فإن التنوع يبسط النفس، ولهذا قال‏:‏ ‏{‏ثيبات وأبكاراً‏}‏ أي منهن ثيبات، ومنهن أبكار، ليكون ذلك أشهى إلى النفس، فإن التنوع يبسط النفس، ولهذا قال‏:‏ ‏{‏ثيبات وأبكار‏}‏ قال‏:‏ وعد اللّه نبيه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم في هذه الآية أن يزوجه، فالثيب آسية امرأة فرعون، وبالأبكار مريم بنت عمران ‏"‏رواه الحافظ الطبراني في المعجم الكبير‏​

References:
  1. Arabic source, Saudi Arabia Ministry of Islamic affairs:
    quran.al-islam.com/Tafseer/DispTafsser.asp?l=arb&taf=KATHEER&nType=1&nSora=66&nAya=5
  2. Arabic source, Saudi Arabia Islamic website.
    al-eman.com/IslamLib/viewchp.asp?BID=134&CID=130
  3. Arabic source, Fatwa # 37869 dated 28-07-1424H:
    islamweb.net/hajj1425/ShowFatwa.php?lang=A&Id=37869&Option=FatwaId
  4. English source:
    answering-islam.org/Shamoun/mary.htm
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well i tried to do a google translation and unless they are talking about radios, plants, sweden and euros, it’s all greek to me.

i will say that when i hit the english translation on that site i got a much shorter paragraph that didn’t seem to be related.

from what google did translate though i got this:

"This verse came down no choice “I Rabbo that the shots that pairs well Minqin allowance - and the phenomenon of God is funded and Jibril and the benefit of believers and the angels then Dahir” I said, he divorced her? 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In an interview with Abu Bakr gold on Akrama from Ibn Abbas that the Prophet peace be upon him came in to Khadija is in the death and said “Oh Khadija if received Dharark read me peace”, said O Messenger of God Is married before me? He said, “No God but his wife Mary, daughter of Imran and Aceh woman Pharaoh and sexual sister of Moses” Zaeef also said two persons Abu Ibrahim Bin Abdel Nour Aror Tna Bin Abdullah Bin Yousef Tna from Abu Shuaib said to him: The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him "was informed that God in Heaven his wife Mary, daughter of Imran and sexual sister of Moses and Pharaoh Aceh woman? “I told you Henneoua O Messenger of Allah, and this also sent a weak euro from Ibn Abi Dawood.”

i don’t know. there is a lot of horrible things being taught to children in the name of islam. google “hamas tv” and jew eating bunny for further proof. the videos are on you tube. utterly revolting no one speaks up! that is not to say there aren’t horrible things being taught to children by Christian fundamentalists as well.

do we have any Christian arabs that can translate from the official saudi site?
 
jen_fla said:
“Oh Khadija if received Dharark read me peace”, said O Messenger of God Is married before me? He said, “No God but his wife Mary, daughter of Imran and **Aceh woman Pharaoh **and sexual sister of Moses” Zaeef also said two persons Abu Ibrahim Bin Abdel Nour Aror Tna Bin Abdullah Bin Yousef Tna from Abu Shuaib said to him: The Messenger of Allah peace be upon him "was informed that God in Heaven his wife Mary, daughter of Imran and sexual sister of Moses and Pharaoh Aceh woman? “I told you Henneoua O Messenger of Allah, and this also sent a weak euro from Ibn Abi Dawood.”
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Dear Jen fla,

Is it really true that an Aceh Woman was mentioned? Does Aceh in your quoted link mean a region on the northern tip of the island of Sumatra, Indonesia? (a) Although people may have dwelt far before the first kingdom of Aceh was established around the 13-14th century AD, long range sea travel could not have been existed in the 7th-8th century AD. (b) No Acehnese history ever called their leader as Pharaoh. They called their leader as Sultan. Aceh indeed has many brave female “leaders” in the wars against the European occupation, but still none of such female leaders ever been called as Sultan, let alone Pharaoh. (c) The source you quoted mentioned that “No God but his wife Mary…” that means that your source saying that God has a wife, and that is ridiculous, I think.
 
yes the translation IS ridiculous. again, sweden, euros, plants and radios! 😛

all i did was go to sam’s first reference, and copied the arabic text. then i went to google’s translator and pasted it.

translate.google.com/translate_t

so of course there is a whole lot of nonsense that was thrown in. if only i could read arabic then i could explain the mystery behind the “weak euro”. ha.

sorry i know to find out if this is all true or not is a serious topic, but the translation IS pretty funny.
 
I’ve managed to find some more English references.

1) Read paragraph 2 on page 59 of this book:
Women in the Koran
Published 1994
Oxford University Press US
206 pages
ISBN: 0195111486
Free online version: books.google.com/books?id=lMg5NRI1LvMC&pg=PA163&dq=%22Women+in+the+Koran%22&lr=&sig=ACfU3U2cp6A-aweD-5X_79GpKknLZapz8A#PPA58,M1

2) Read page 583 of this book:
Moon-o-theism: Religion of a War and Moon God Prophet, Volume I of II
By Natan Yoel, Yoel Natan
Published 2006
612 pages
ISBN: 1411601068
Free online version: books.google.com/books?id=G55KFxBo7ioC&pg=RA1-PT590&dq=ISBN:+1411601068&sig=ACfU3U3xMgnJ3XHP58RNsRIhEzjNinDE3g

3) Christian Website:
“Tom: Well, Dave, excuse me, let me just interject this. If our listeners are interested in our article comparing Roman Catholicism with Islam, and took material from many Islamic writers and a woman in particular wrote a book on Mary, and said that from the hadith, this is the traditional writings of Islam, that Muhammad said that he would select Mary as his first wife when he entered paradise.”
thebereancall.org/node/1972

**4) Jewish Website: **
“The tradition mentions that additional noble women were promised only to Muhammad in Paradise as a reward. Among these are, for example, Asi’a, the wife of the Egyptian Pharoah; Kulthum, the sister of Moses, and Mary, the biological mother of Jesus Christ.”
israelated.com/node/32893
 
3) Christian Website:
“Tom: Well, Dave, excuse me, let me just interject this. If our listeners are interested in our article comparing Roman Catholicism with Islam, and took material from many Islamic writers and a woman in particular wrote a book on Mary, and said that from the hadith, this is the traditional writings of Islam, that Muhammad said that he would select Mary as his first wife when he entered paradise.”
thebereancall.org/node/1972
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Ok, this is really made me sick. There is a statue of Mary with her stamping on a serpents head. They should have her other foot stepping on Muhammads head.
Muhammad is a sick and twisted individual for saying such things about our beloved mother Mary. :mad:
 
The Arabic Islamic books say that Mohammed is the greatest of men and so he will be the first man to enter Paradise and take his choice of wives, his first choice will be Mary and he will first ‘enjoy’ her, and then he will choose his others, and the Muslims will be happy in the honour given to Mohammed and their nation.

We must pray for Muslims and not condemn them, they do not know what they do.
 
Sana said:
The Arabic Islamic books say that Mohammed is the greatest of men and so he will be the first man to enter Paradise and take his choice of wives, his first choice will be Mary and he will first ‘enjoy’ her, and then he will choose his others, and the Muslims will be happy in the honour given to Mohammed and their nation.
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i am going to read through all those links later on tonight. i think most of us were/are hoping this teaching is not true and yes, i now feel ill and i’m seeing red.
We must pray for Muslims and not condemn them, they do not know what they do.
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i agree, but how can you start the conversation without it turning into a bloodbath?

and sam and anyone else living under sharia law, i am going to keep praying for you, because you put yourself at risk. please be careful.
 
Sana said:
We must pray for Muslims and not condemn them, they do not know what they do.
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Welcome Sister in Christ to CAF,

I agree with you, we are brainwashed from our early childhood, from the elementary school till the University, we are simply following our ancestors religion without questioning it nor have the right to do so, however the ones whom should be condemned are Satan and his false prophet.
jen_fla said:
and sam and anyone else living under sharia law, i am going to keep praying for you, because you put yourself at risk. please be careful.
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:blessyou: jen fla.

(Matthew 5:10): “Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven”.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 5:10;&version=31;
 
I am deeply ashamed that Catholics would waste time and effort in showing their outrage and disgust of the SPECULATION of this topic.

Most Muslims are sincere, holy people who seek to do the will of God.

We all worship the same God.

It is not healthy for me to continue to visit such a site as this.:dts:

:knight1: I pray for all mankind to enter into the Kingdom of God.
 
Jimdandy said:
I am deeply ashamed that Catholics would waste time and effort in showing their outrage and disgust of the SPECULATION of this topic.
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:tsktsk: That is not speculation THAT IS FACT:

References:
  1. Arabic: Saudi Arabia Ministry of Islamic affairs.
    quran.al-islam.com/Tafseer/Di…ra=66 &nAya=5
  2. Arabic: Saudi Arabia Islamic website.
    al-eman.com/IslamLib/view…ID=134&CID=130
  3. Arabic: Fatwa # 37869 dated 28-07-1424H.
    islamweb.net/hajj1425/Sho…Option=FatwaId
  4. English:
    answering-islam.org/Shamoun/mary.htm
  5. English: read paragraph 2 on page 59 of this book.
    Women in the Koran
    Published 1994
    Oxford University Press US
    206 pages
    ISBN: 0195111486
    Free online version: books.google.com/books?id=lMg…apz8A#PPA58,M1
  6. English: read page 583 of this book.
    Moon-o-theism: Religion of a War and Moon God Prophet, Volume I of II
    By Natan Yoel, Yoel Natan
    Published 2006
    612 pages
    ISBN: 1411601068
    Free online version: books.google.com/books?id=G55…sRIhEzjNinDE3g
  7. English: Christian Website.
    “Tom: Well, Dave, excuse me, let me just interject this. If our listeners are interested in our article comparing Roman Catholicism with Islam, and took material from many Islamic writers and a woman in particular wrote a book on Mary, and said that from the hadith, this is the traditional writings of Islam, that Muhammad said that he would select Mary as his first wife when he entered paradise.”
    thebereancall.org/node/1972
  8. English: Jewish Website.
    “The tradition mentions that additional noble women were promised only to Muhammad in Paradise as a reward. Among these are, for example, Asi’a, the wife of the Egyptian Pharoah; Kulthum, the sister of Moses, and Mary, the biological mother of Jesus Christ.”
    israelated.com/node/32893
 
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