Music Leader Thread Part III - Song Lists, Suggestions, and Comments

[CatholicZ09]

Here are my suggestion for Corpus Christi:

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - Solemnity of the Body and Blood of Christ (Corpus Christi) - Year A

Processional Hymn: #176 At the Lamb’s High Feast SALZBURG
Preparation of the Gifts: #342 One Love Released Frenzel/Keil
Communion Hymn: #323 O Sacrament Most Holy FULDA
Recessional Hymn: #547 Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow OLD HUNDREDTH

 

[benedictgal]

Here are my suggestion for Corpus Christi:

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - Solemnity of the Body and Blood of Christ (Corpus Christi) - Year A

Processional Hymn: #176 At the Lamb’s High Feast SALZBURG
Preparation of the Gifts: #342 One Love Released Frenzel/Keil
Communion Hymn: #323 O Sacrament Most Holy FULDA
Recessional Hymn: #547 Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow OLD HUNDREDTH

This is what I would choose:

Processional: At That First Eucharist
Offertory: Father, We Thank Thee Who Has Planted
Communion: I Received the Living God
Recessional: Holy God, We Praise Thy Name

 

[CatholicZ09]

This is what I would choose:

Processional: At That First Eucharist
Offertory: Father, We Thank Thee Who Has Planted
Communion: I Received the Living God
Recessional: Holy God, We Praise Thy Name

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear “Table of Plenty” on Corpus Christi at my parish.

 

[hosea]

This is how JS Bach wrote most of his music; albeit in a virtuosic way. He took the familiar folk hymns of the people and … augmented them. (Reference for this: Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter amazon.com/G%C3%B6del-Escher-Bach-Eternal-Golden/dp/0465026567).
That’s not to say that Kevin Keil possesses the artistry of JS Bach, it’s only to say that this is not only a valid composition technique, but a good idea on some level.

I did not grow up with “Come Holy Ghost”, in fact I have never heard it outside of this song; so for me, this has always been an exciting piece of music: the slow progression of the Hymn portion which is a prayer, juxtaposed with the busier “we” portion of the song, the refrain. Like bookends around the core that is a call to God.

I must confess, I didn’t use this piece this Sunday due mostly to the negativity on this thread, but have found that I regret it.

Boy, Sunday was a complete disaster on every level imaginable… except the congregation didn’t know (thank you God). I had: missing music, missing musicians, missing singers. The accompaniment music on one piece didn’t match the hymnal… (caught at the last minute before Mass). I have had glubs and flubs before, but in all my years nothing to remotely touch this past Sunday. Normally I so look forward to Pentecost, I think I’ll be a little nervous for next year.

We use One Spirit one Church every year. Love it. Thanks

 

[hosea]

This is how JS Bach wrote most of his music; albeit in a virtuosic way. He took the familiar folk hymns of the people and … augmented them. (Reference for this: Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas R. Hofstadter amazon.com/G%C3%B6del-Escher-Bach-Eternal-Golden/dp/0465026567).
That’s not to say that Kevin Keil possesses the artistry of JS Bach, it’s only to say that this is not only a valid composition technique, but a good idea on some level.

I did not grow up with “Come Holy Ghost”, in fact I have never heard it outside of this song; so for me, this has always been an exciting piece of music: the slow progression of the Hymn portion which is a prayer, juxtaposed with the busier “we” portion of the song, the refrain. Like bookends around the core that is a call to God.

I must confess, I didn’t use this piece this Sunday due mostly to the negativity on this thread, but have found that I regret it.

Boy, Sunday was a complete disaster on every level imaginable… except the congregation didn’t know (thank you God). I had: missing music, missing musicians, missing singers. The accompaniment music on one piece didn’t match the hymnal… (caught at the last minute before Mass). I have had glubs and flubs before, but in all my years nothing to remotely touch this past Sunday. Normally I so look forward to Pentecost, I think I’ll be a little nervous for next year.

We use One Spirit one Church every year. Love it. Thanks for your comments. Welcome to the thread.

 

[hosea]

We just need to bear in mind the mandates given to us by Liturgiam Authenticam, that official Church texts cannot be substituted with songs or paraphrases. This would also apply to sequences.

Come, Holy Spirit/Veni Sancte Spiritus
music John Michael Talbot
Words from the Sequence for Pentecost.

Holy Spirit, Lord of Light
From the clear Celestial Height
Thy pure beaming radiance give

Come now Father of the poor
Come with treasures to endure
Come now Light on all that lives

Light Immortal, Light Divine
Visit now these hearts of Thine
And our inmost being fill
For without Your Grace all turns to ill

Veni Sancte Spiritus [Come Holy Spirit]
x3

Heal our wounds, our strength renew
On our dryness pour Thy dew
Wash the stains of guilt away

Bend our stubborn heart and will
Melt the frozen, warm the chill
Guide our steps when we go astray

Light Immortal, Light Divine
Visit now these hearts of Thine
And our inmost being fill
For without Your Grace all turns to ill

Veni Sancte Spiritus [Come Holy Spirit]
x3

Looks pretty accurate to me.
I’m jus’ sayin’.

 

[CatholicZ09]

Here’s the one typically used in my parish on Pentecost:

“Come, O Holy Spirit” - Text fr. the Pentecost Sequence, "Veni, Sancte Spiritus, alt.; adapt. by Owen Alstott

Music: “Hymn to Joy”, Ludwig van Beethoven

Come, O Holy Spirit, come! And from your ce-
lestial home Shed a ray of light divine!
Come, O Holy Spirit, come! Come, O Father of the
poor! Come, O Source of all our store! Come, with-
in our bosoms shine! Come, O Holy Spirit, come!

You, of comforters the best; You, the soul’s most
welcome guest; Sweet refreshment here below;
Come, O Holy Spirit, come! In our labor, rest most
sweet; Grateful coolness in the heat; Solace
in the midst of woe. Come, O Holy Spirit, come!

O most blessed Light divine, May that Light with-
in us shine, And our inmost being fill!
Come, O Holy Spirit, come! In your absence, we have
naught, Nothing good in deed or thought, Nothing
free from taint of ill. Come, O Holy Spirit, come!

Heal our wounds, our strength renew; On our dryness
pour your dew; Wash the stains of guilt away:
Come, O Holy Spirit, come! Bend the stubborn heart and
will; Melt the frozen, warm the chill; Guide the
steps that go astray. Come, O Holy Spirit, come!

On the faithful who adore And confess you
evermore, In your sev’nfold gift descend;
Come, O Holy Spirit, come! Give them viture’s sure re-
ward; Give them your salvation, Lord; Give them
joys that never end. Come, O Holy Spirit, come!

The only thing that is really “extra” is the “Come, O Holy Spirit, come” in each verse to fit the musical score.

 

[pnewton]

We just need to bear in mind the mandates given to us by Liturgiam Authenticam, that official Church texts cannot be substituted with songs or paraphrases. This would also apply to sequences.

I have tried to confirm or disprove this. I have found not confirmation, but *Sing to the Lord *165 does allow for the substitution of metrical paraphrases. In any case as strict interpretation is not going to happen. If we went straight with the words as they are written, it would be spoken, not sung. Everything I read says it is to be sung. Believe me, I wish I could quit worrying about these things and dump the problem on someone else.

The only one that is somewhat easy is Corpus Christ, and that’s not even mandatory. At least it fits Tanutm Ergo.

 

[CatholicZ09]

I remember that on Corpus Christi last year, the sequence selected was the “Pange Lingua”, while the preferred sequence is “Laud, O Zion.” So, using the “Pange Lingua” would be liturgically incorrect, right?

 

[MarkThompson]

I remember that on Corpus Christi last year, the sequence selected was the “Pange Lingua”, while the preferred sequence is “Laud, O Zion.” So, using the “Pange Lingua” would be liturgically incorrect, right?

Right. Also, Pange Lingua is a hymn, not a Sequence.

If memory serves, though, Lauda Sion has (in the modern Mass) a long form (the whole thing) and a short form, which I think amounts to the portion beginning from “Ecce panis angelorum.”

 

[pnewton]

I remember that on Corpus Christi last year, the sequence selected was the “Pange Lingua”, while the preferred sequence is “Laud, O Zion.” So, using the “Pange Lingua” would be liturgically incorrect, right?

I think that is a good question. Pange Lingua is not the sequence or a substitute, but the sequence itself is optional and doesn’t need to be sung. Certainly Pange Lingua would be suitable for that Sunday.

 

[MarkThompson]

I think that is a good question. Pange Lingua is not the sequence or a substitute, but the sequence itself is optional and doesn’t need to be sung. Certainly Pange Lingua would be suitable for that Sunday.

Yes, but the option is between using the Sequence and not using it; not between using the Sequence and using some other Eucharistic-themed song.

 

[benedictgal]

I have tried to confirm or disprove this. I have found not confirmation, but *Sing to the Lord *165 does allow for the substitution of metrical paraphrases. In any case as strict interpretation is not going to happen. If we went straight with the words as they are written, it would be spoken, not sung. Everything I read says it is to be sung. Believe me, I wish I could quit worrying about these things and dump the problem on someone else.

The only one that is somewhat easy is Corpus Christ, and that’s not even mandatory. At least it fits Tanutm Ergo.

However, Sing to the Lord is only binding when it quotes the authoritative documents of the Holy See. Liturgiam Authenticam is the governing principle here. Furthermore, the folks at the Church Music Association and other independent composers have been able to set the official texts to music, so, it’s not that hard.

 

[pnewton]

However, Sing to the Lord is only binding when it quotes the authoritative documents of the Holy See. Liturgiam Authenticam is the governing principle here. Furthermore, the folks at the Church Music Association and other independent composers have been able to set the official texts to music, so, it’s not that hard.

Yes it is. I can’t find anything else, anywhere. Every missalette I have found has musical settings. Sing to the Lord, though not binding, at least says something. When I get a chance, I will shoot an email to the diocese on it and get an official answer.

 

[benedictgal]

Yes it is. I can’t find anything else, anywhere. Every missalette I have found has musical settings. Sing to the Lord, though not binding, at least says something. When I get a chance, I will shoot an email to the diocese on it and get an official answer.

Why not visit the Corpus Christi watershed project? They have music for just about everything. Regretably, sometimes, the publishing houses pretty much have a consumer-driven mentality. Believe, me, having listened to a sample 24-song CD of the revised Flor y Canto, I can attest to that.

I did find one in English at the Musica Sacra forum. It is in a PDF format. Send me a PM and I will email it to you, as I do not know how to insert a PDF into a post.

I spoke to soon. Here is another one:

gregorianchant.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/5/1/3251252/laud_o_sion_gregorian_english_1208_2011.pdf

I hope this helps.

 

[ArchStreetBand]

Here’s what we did yesterday (Pentecost)

Resp: Send out Your Spirit by the Damiens. Great old song with my favorite kind of chord, major 9th. Sounds great with redundant strings on the old 12.

Communion: By the waking of our hearts. sweet tune. kinda sounds like a movie score. And Schutte’s Send us Your spirit.

Peace,
H

Love a major 9 chord. Seems every Psalm I write has more than it’s share

and LOVE “By the Waking of Our Hearts”! It totally sounds like something out of Disney’s Pocahontas. Maybe “Colors of the Wind”??

 

[ArchStreetBand]

It was really horrible at Mass this weekend. This is one of those songs that really has no purpose, unless it’s to ruin a truly venerable hymn like “Come, Holy Ghost.”

Poor Benedictgal. Wish you could have heard it at our church. It was wonderful.

 

[benedictgal]

Love a major 9 chord. Seems every Psalm I write has more than it’s share

and LOVE “By the Waking of Our Hearts”! It totally sounds like something out of Disney’s Pocahontas. Maybe “Colors of the Wind”??

With all due respect, that alone would make it not quite suitable for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. It just seems to me that Sacramenum Caritatis No. 42 is lost on the composers, and the publishing houses, for that matter.

I received a preview CD of OCP’s third edition of Flor y Canto. So far, what I have heard is not very reassurring. Some of the pieces sound as though they would be better played as part of salsa night.

 

[benedictgal]

In the event that I have to help out for the Spanish languageg Mass for the Solemnity of Corpus Christi, this is what I will have ready:

Entrance: Alabado Sea El Santissimo
Ofertory: Bendigamos al Senor
Communion: Altissimo Senor
Recessional: Cantemos al Amor

It would have been great to have a Corpus Christi procession this year, but, since the mercury continues to surge towards the 110s, I do not think that it will be possible.

 

[ArchStreetBand]

We just need to bear in mind the mandates given to us by Liturgiam Authenticam, that official Church texts cannot be substituted with songs or paraphrases. This would also apply to sequences.

Hi again, Benedictgal!

Guessing that you’re being helpful to all us heathens who sang “By the Waking of Our Hearts” at the sequence.

Couple of thoughts for you:

1. It was an incredibly prayerful, peaceful, meaningful sequence in which the whole community participated.
2. In our church, the wishes of the Pastor and his associates are far more important than the opinions of sometime-volunteer cantors. How does it work at your church, Benedictgal?