Music Leader Thread Part III - Song Lists, Suggestions, and Comments

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ArchStreetBand said:
Hi again, Benedictgal!

Guessing that you’re being helpful to all us heathens who sang “By the Waking of Our Hearts” at the sequence.

Couple of thoughts for you:
  1. It was an incredibly prayerful, peaceful, meaningful sequence in which the whole community participated.
  2. In our church, the wishes of the Pastor and his associates are far more important than the opinions of sometime-volunteer cantors. How does it work at your church, Benedictgal?
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We follow the documents of the Church as best we can. Since, when I am called to sing, I choose the music, it is always with what the Holy See has in mind. Part of being involved in liturgy is learning the authoritative documents of the Holy See and making choices based on proper formation. That is why I have been called upon to assist in planning liturgies and in conducting research on liturgical questions. I do my best to be faithful to what the Church states. Her documents are the guiding principle. When I do not know the answer, I go to the authoritative sources (either online or by phone). Also, having been exposed to solid, orthodox experts, such as those in the Society for Catholic Liturgy (which include Vatican officials) is a great help. I ask questions and learn from their presentations and comments. They are a great support and have taught me so much. That is why I am compelled to share what I have learned. It is no use to keep what I have learned for myself. If it can help someone engage in a more prayerful, more solemn and more dignified Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, then, that can only be for the good.

All of us need to do our part to infuse the celebration of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with solemnity, dignity, beauty and majesty. CatholicZ09 is certainly trying. I am trying, too. The Holy Father cannot do this by himself. Sometimes, the laity need to be the ones to help prod the reform of the reform in their parishes. I was blessed to have served as director of liturgy and worship under a rector (our Cathedral’s first one) who really cared about liturgical integrity, dignity and solemnity. He taught me a lot (and still does). His vision for the Church’s liturgies mirrors the Holy Father’s. Our vision should mirror Pope Benedict’s.
 
InspiritCarol;7983332 said:
Poor Carol!! I’ve had my share of days like that. Worst I remember was one of the first weddings I ever did alone. Was called in last minute to play and sing at the wedding of someone I’d gone to high school with (and not much liked then). Got caught in horrendous traffic on the way to the church, only to find the guests gathering. Sang Ave Maria, but forgot to transpose down to my key (ugh). Went to play the procession (Wagner’s Bridal March), but opened the book to Mendelssohn’s Wedding March. Didn’t even realize it until I’d started the main theme. Did the best I could to transition into Wagner, but the bridal runway was too short to really make it work :o

Needless to say, I’ve developed a bit of OCD with regard to my music book over the years… And even that fails sometimes! God’s keeping me humble 🙂

Sorry for super long note. But, I’m really happy to read that you’ll try the Keil song next year, no matter the opinions of some people on this forum.

All best!
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Just wondering if anyone else is attending the NPM conference in July…?
 
benedictgal said:
We follow the documents of the Church as best we can. Since, when I am called to sing, I choose the music, it is always with what the Holy See has in mind. Part of being involved in liturgy is learning the authoritative documents of the Holy See and making choices based on proper formation. That is why I have been called upon to assist in planning liturgies and in conducting research on liturgical questions. I do my best to be faithful to what the Church states. Her documents are the guiding principle. When I do not know the answer, I go to the authoritative sources (either online or by phone). Also, having been exposed to solid, orthodox experts, such as those in the Society for Catholic Liturgy (which include Vatican officials) is a great help. I ask questions and learn from their presentations and comments. They are a great support and have taught me so much. That is why I am compelled to share what I have learned. It is no use to keep what I have learned for myself. If it can help someone engage in a more prayerful, more solemn and more dignified Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, then, that can only be for the good.

All of us need to do our part to infuse the celebration of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass with solemnity, dignity, beauty and majesty. CatholicZ09 is certainly trying. I am trying, too. The Holy Father cannot do this by himself. Sometimes, the laity need to be the ones to help prod the reform of the reform in their parishes. I was blessed to have served as director of liturgy and worship under a rector (our Cathedral’s first one) who really cared about liturgical integrity, dignity and solemnity. He taught me a lot (and still does). His vision for the Church’s liturgies mirrors the Holy Father’s. Our vision should mirror Pope Benedict’s.
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I’m sure your intentions are good, and I’m in awe of your focus on the Pope’s vision and your ability to execute it to the letter. But, I don’t come to this forum to check in with you about how well our liturgies hold up. I’m not asking you to “prod the reform of the reform” in my parish. I come to this forum to check in with other music leaders about their work in the trenches. No matter your intentions, you come across as a bully, and I’d rather you not focus your energies on me. Pretty sure I’m not alone with that wish.

Thanks and God bless!
 
benedictgal said:
I spoke to soon. Here is another one:

gregorianchant.weebly.com/uploads/3/2/5/1/3251252/laud_o_sion_gregorian_english_1208_2011.pdf

I hope this helps.
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Wow. Thanks. I will have to think about that for next year. It looks to be about a one month learn for me, and I will have to see if it would be okay to do a solo. I will stuff this aside for next January and approach my priest about switching up and doing the sequence like a proclaimation.

I am impressed that it is written in regular notation. That makes things much easier for me to plink out and learn.
 
Oh, I am going on vacation and coming back on Corpus Christ. My songs for that weekend are:

O Sacrament Most Holy
One Bread One Body
Take and Eat
Table Song

The hymns with the primary meaning of Corpus Christi are in the entrance and at communion. The ones that include our role as the Body of Christ, offertory and exit.
 
Here’s a question; if someone is getting baptized on Corpus Cristi, is it acceptable to slip in one or two songs about Baptism (the preference in my mind is to find songs that deal with both).
 
Melchior said:
Here’s a question; if someone is getting baptized on Corpus Cristi, is it acceptable to slip in one or two songs about Baptism (the preference in my mind is to find songs that deal with both).
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I don’t see a problem with it; however, the primary focus of the day definately has to be about the Eucharist and the Body of Christ, the Church.
 
CatholicZ09 said:
I don’t see a problem with it; however, the primary focus of the day definately has to be about the Eucharist and the Body of Christ, the Church.
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Of course, yes (hence why I said the preference would be if there was a song that had references to both).
 
While I don’t have a huge problem with Ricky Manalo’s “By the Waking of Our Hearts”, the thing that bothers me about it is the musical score in the verses. The jumping from a high C natural to a high E flat can be very cringe-worthy for most of today’s congregations. 😃 :eek:
so r-AAAAAAA-diant bright.
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:eek:

I actually like his “Beyond the Days” for Lent, and I can like his “In These Days of Lenten Journey” to some extent, but hearing it all five weeks of Lent drives me nuts. :o
 
CatholicZ09 said:
While I don’t have a huge problem with Ricky Manalo’s “By the Waking of Our Hearts”, the thing that bothers me about it is the musical score in the verses. The jumping from a high C natural to a high E flat can be very cringe-worthy for most of today’s congregations. 😃 :eek:

:eek:

I actually like his “Beyond the Days” for Lent, and I can like his “In These Days of Lenten Journey” to some extent, but hearing it all five weeks of Lent drives me nuts. :o
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When I arranged the instruments for By the waking of our hearts I dropped the key one whole step until the last refrain. Then we modulate up to the as-written key. That kept them at a more comfortable key during the verses.
great tune but I agree with over repetition. Even the best songs can get on your nerves after a while. That’s why we are looking forward to the new Mass settings.
peace,
h
 
Well, I am awaiting the list from OCP to see which songs are going on the cutting block for the 2012 edition of Breaking Bread and Music Issue. Should be interesting to see!
 
CatholicZ09 said:
Well, I am awaiting the list from OCP to see which songs are going on the cutting block for the 2012 edition of Breaking Bread and Music Issue. Should be interesting to see!
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I have already seen a preview of OCP’s Flor y Canto. It does not look good. I wrote a review of the 24-song sampler CD they sent me.
 
Most Holy Trinity.

How wonderful the three in one
Having a tough time finding a Response setting for Daniel 3.
Table of Plenty
All Praise and Glad Thanksgiving

Still looking for other Trinity-related songs. We are doing some early Masses this week in addition to our regular Mass, so we will be doing more traditional songs.

peace,
h
 
hosea said:
Most Holy Trinity.

How wonderful the three in one
Having a tough time finding a Response setting for Daniel 3.
Table of Plenty
All Praise and Glad Thanksgiving

Still looking for other Trinity-related songs. We are doing some early Masses this week in addition to our regular Mass, so we will be doing more traditional songs.

peace,
h
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Why not do “Holy, Holy, Holy”? I was actually surprised to see a Spanish translation of this hymn in Flor y Canto.

There is also Holy God, We Praise Thy Name, one of the English translations of the Te Deum.

You’ll be surprised that many, many of the faithful know these venerable hymns almost by heart and will wind up singing them quite loudly.
 
O God, Almighty Father (to the same tune of “All Praise and Glad Thanksgiving”)
Farther Than the Farthest Sun (“For the Beauty of the Earth” hymn tune)
Come Now, Almighty King
On This Day, the First of Days
All Hail, Adored Trinity (“All People That on Earth Do Dwell”, “Praise God from Whom All Blessings Flow” hymn tune)
God, We Praise You
 
benedictgal said:
Why not do “Holy, Holy, Holy”? I was actually surprised to see a Spanish translation of this hymn in Flor y Canto.

There is also Holy God, We Praise Thy Name, one of the English translations of the Te Deum.

You’ll be surprised that many, many of the faithful know these venerable hymns almost by heart and will wind up singing them quite loudly.
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Yes, those are exactly the ones we are looking at. The faithful really do sing beautifully the hymns they own in their hearts. And they sound suprisingly nice with just guitar too.
You just can’t knock traditional songs.

thanks,
h
 
Here’s what my music director has for Trinity Sunday and Corpus Christi Sunday:

Sunday, June 19, 2011 - Solemnity of the Most Holy Trinity - Year A

Processional Hymn: #724 All Praise and Glad Thanksgiving GOTT VATER SEI GEPRIESEN
Preparation of the Gifts: #394 Christ Be Beside Me Wasson/ST. ROSE
Communion Hymn: #355 One Bread, One Body Foley
Recessional Hymn: #199 Holy God, We Praise Thy Name GROSSER GOTT

Sunday, June 26, 2011 - Feast of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ - Year A

Processional Hymn: #201 Praise to the Lord LOBE DEN HERREN
Preparation of the Gifts: #342 One Love Released Frenzel/Keil
Communion Hymn: #322 Song of the Body of Christ KO KE ANO’ AHI AHI
Recessional Hymn: #484 Our Hope Is in the Lord Schutte
 
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