Music Leader Thread Part III - Song Lists, Suggestions, and Comments

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Here are my suggestions for next weekend:

Sunday, September 4, 2011 - Twenty-Third Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year A

Processional Hymn: #313 All People That on Earth Do Dwell OLD HUNDREDTH
Preparation of the Gifts: #308 In This Place Thomson/Thomson
Communion Hymn: #582 In the Land There Is a Hunger Lynch
Recessional Hymn: #612 In Christ There Is No East or West MCKEE

Suggestions for any special Labor Day Masses:

Monday, September 5, 2011 - Labor Day - Year A

Processional Hymn: #737 How Firm a Foundation FOUNDATION
Preparation of the Gifts: #588 God of Day and God of Darkness Haugen/BEACH SPRING
Communion Hymn: #325 Gift of Finest Wheat BICENTENNIAL
Recessional Hymn: #625 For the Beauty of the Earth DIX

Here’s for the week after 9/4:

Sunday, September 11, 2011 - Twenty-Fourth Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year A

Processional Hymn: #654 God of Our Fathers NATIONAL HYMN
Preparation of the Gifts: #683 Be Still, My Soul FINLANDIA
Communion Hymn: #341 I Am the Bread of Life Toolan
Recessional Hymn: #599 Sing with All the Saints in Glory HYMN TO JOY

It’s hard to believe that it will be September already. Advent and the new translations are rapidly approaching! :eek:
 
If not using propers:

Sunday, September 4, 2011—Twenty–Third Sunday in Ordinary Time
Entrance: All Creatures of Our God and King LASST UNS ERFREUEN
Offertory: Faith of Our Fathers ST. CATHERINE
Communion: Where True Love and Charity Prevail UBI CARITAS
Recessional: Send Forth by God’s Blessing ASH GROVE
CatholicZ09 said:
It’s hard to believe that it will be September already. Advent and the new translations are rapidly approaching! :eek:
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😃
 
Here is what I have planned:

September 4, 2011
Entrance: Simple English Propers for 23rd Sunday
Responsorial Psalm: Revised Grail Psalter
Offertory: Where Charity and Love Prevail
Communion: Simple English Propers and then Draw Us in the Spirit’s Tether
Recessional: There’s a Wideness in God’s Mercy

September 11, 2011
Entrance: Simple English Propers for 24th Sunday
Responsorial Psalm: Revised Grail Psalter
Offertory: Forgive Us Lord, As We Forgive
Communion: Simple English Propers and then Where Charity and Love Prevail
Recessional: O God, Our Help in Ages Past

I highly recommend the Simple English Propers. They are not that hard. In fact, from what I understand, the Second Vatican Council documents actually envisioned that the Propers be sung. Hymns were not part of the equation. Believe me, after being subjected to Spirit and Song, I find that the Simple English Propers are superior because they are the actual text of the Mass. With the SEP, one sings the Mass; one doesn’t merely sing at Mass.
 
benedictgal said:
I highly recommend the Simple English Propers. They are not that hard. In fact, from what I understand, the Second Vatican Council documents actually envisioned that the Propers be sung. Hymns were not part of the equation. Believe me, after being subjected to Spirit and Song, I find that the Simple English Propers are superior because they are the actual text of the Mass. With the SEP, one sings the Mass; one doesn’t merely sing at Mass.
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I concur. Starting in September, my schola and I will be singing the Simple English Propers of the previous Sunday (unless there are propers for that specific day in the SEP) along with the ICEL chants at my parish’s Wednesday evening Mass.
 
I will be happy to move this comment/question to another forum if somebody will direct me to the correct place. At nearly every Catholic church I have ever attended, the Priest says the Mass if over then the final hymn begans and the Priest and “party” make a rapid retreat from the front of the church. All during this time, many and sometimes nearly all in the congregation leave before the music is close to being over. IF, like the Episcopal Church, the Priest would time their departure from the front so as to coincide reaching the back of the church when the hymn ends, it would be a much more respectful ending to the Mass. It would even be better if the pronouncment that the Mass was over took place from the back after the hymn had ended. Just my opinion.
 
Hboggs said:
I will be happy to move this comment/question to another forum if somebody will direct me to the correct place. At nearly every Catholic church I have ever attended, the Priest says the Mass if over then the final hymn begans and the Priest and “party” make a rapid retreat from the front of the church. All during this time, many and sometimes nearly all in the congregation leave before the music is close to being over. IF, like the Episcopal Church, the Priest would time their departure from the front so as to coincide reaching the back of the church when the hymn ends, it would be a much more respectful ending to the Mass. It would even be better if the pronouncment that the Mass was over took place from the back after the hymn had ended. Just my opinion.
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The Roman Missal is silent on the recessional. The recessional is more along the lines of something to cover the exit of the celebrant. Lamentably, there a lot of songs that go on into eternity. Usually, one verse should be enough to cover the celebrant’s exit. I try to keep mine to one verse and I chose hymns that do not have refrains.
 
benedictgal said:
The Roman Missal is silent on the recessional. The recessional is more along the lines of something to cover the exit of the celebrant. Lamentably, there a lot of songs that go on into eternity. Usually, one verse should be enough to cover the celebrant’s exit. I try to keep mine to one verse and I chose hymns that do not have refrains.
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I am aware of the “silent” factor and the recessional may in fact be an American “invention”, although I don’t know this for a fact. However, since all, and it is many, Catholic churches in Georiga, at least, seem to have this as a regular “part” of the Mass, it does leave one to wonder if there is not a better way. Your solution seems most practical and especially where the mass (no pun intended) exodus begins very early!😃

As a sidebit, I was told once by a Priest that there was no such thing as a “recessional”, but that they “processed out”. I’ll leave the war of words up to those who know far more than I do.😉

Have a very blessed day.
 
Hboggs said:
I will be happy to move this comment/question to another forum if somebody will direct me to the correct place. At nearly every Catholic church I have ever attended, the Priest says the Mass if over then the final hymn begans and the Priest and “party” make a rapid retreat from the front of the church. All during this time, many and sometimes nearly all in the congregation leave before the music is close to being over. IF, like the Episcopal Church, the Priest would time their departure from the front so as to coincide reaching the back of the church when the hymn ends, it would be a much more respectful ending to the Mass. It would even be better if the pronouncment that the Mass was over took place from the back after the hymn had ended. Just my opinion.
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At a few parishes where I’ve cantored or have attended mass, most people won’t leave the church until the priest processes out. The celebrating priests have noticed this as well, so what they have done is “time” the hymn so that at least one verse is sung before he recesses up the aisle. I’ve also seen other priests, if they like/know the hymn, will stand at the front singing until he was ready to go out. Some priests will insist on only one verse of the hymn. When the regulars realize this, they tend to stay until the verse if completed then leave. But at some parishes you still have the mass exodus… the people in the pews filing out as soon as the priest walks by their pew.

As Benedictgal said, there really isn’t much info on what is to be done during the recessional, so what I’ve found is that parishes which like to sing will sing most or all the verses of a recessional hymn and ones where the parishes don’t like to sing, they will only have one verse and be done with it. What I have liked at a couple parishes (not many do this, so it is a rare occasion) is the organist will play an instrumental piece, usually something glorious and beautiful, really giving the impression that something incredible just happened ----- which did of course.
 
Sarabande said:
What I have liked at a couple parishes (not many do this, so it is a rare occasion) is the organist will play an instrumental piece, usually something glorious and beautiful, really giving the impression that something incredible just happened ----- which did of course.
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thats the best way

of course, only after the marian antiphon has been sung:p
 
benedictgal said:
The Roman Missal is silent on the recessional. The recessional is more along the lines of something to cover the exit of the celebrant. Lamentably, there a lot of songs that go on into eternity. Usually, one verse should be enough to cover the celebrant’s exit. I try to keep mine to one verse and I chose hymns that do not have refrains.
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We do enough of the exit song to cover the Recession of Priest, Deacons, and ministers. Then once they are out we end the song and I wish the people a wonderful week. Then we do another verse as the people file out and socialize. Seems to work well. Many stay and sing the next verse with us.

peace,
H
 
Is there any list online that has the music lists for the Masses of World Youth Day 2011?
 
This is what my music director has for this weekend and next weekend:

Processional Hymn: #306 Let Us Go to the Altar Schutte
Preparation of the Gifts: #534 Age to Age Vogt
Communion Hymn: #542 Christ, Be Our Light Farrell
Recessional Hymn: #418 For the Fruits of This Creation AR HYD Y NOS

Next weekend:

Processional Hymn: #484 Our Hope Is in the Lord Schutte
Preparation of the Gifts: #396 There Is a Longing Quigley
Communion Hymn: #678 Loving and Forgiving Soper
Recessional Hymn: #368 Take the Word of God with You Walker
 
JGMendes4049 said:
What do all of you have planned music-wise for this weekend?
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Since it falls right on 9/11 (10th anniversary of the tragedy) I’ll most likely do God bless America for closing.
Within in the Mass:
Opening: Come, worship the Lord
Response: Psalm 103: The Lord Is Kind and Merciful (Dufford)
Offertory: This is my song (Finlandia): seems like it reflects the spirit of forgivness from the readings.
communion: Love one another (verses 5, 6, & 7) and Loving and forgiving
Closing: God bless America (Celine Dion arrangement)

Peace,
H
 
I did a little revision:

suggestions for this Sunday:

Processional Hymn: #308 In This Place Thomson/Thomson
Preparation of the Gifts: #683 Be Still, My Soul FINLANDIA
Communion Hymn: #341 I Am the Bread of Life Toolan
Recessional Hymn: #599 Sing with All the Saints in Glory HYMN TO JOY

I’m not a big fan on contemporary gathering songs ever since hearing “Gather Us In,” but “In This Place” is actually really nice. It really reflects the readings on forgiveness and the tragedy of 9/11.

Here’s verse one:
We are all hungry people, we need shelter and
strength. We are one in our hurting, we are
one in our pain. In our suff’ring and sadness,
we are saved by the grace of the power and the
Spirit that is here in this place. We are
gathered at table as one in the Lord. We are
gathered as people who are living the Word. Our
hearts and our spirits are nurtured by grace. It is
Jesus who fills us. He is here in this place.
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“Be Still, My Soul” is another hymn set to FINLANDIA. It really “stirs the soul” in my opinion especially on this weekend. The last two suggestions are more “joyful” in my opinion. “I Am the Bread of Life” speaks of new life as does “Sing with All the Saints in Glory,” which speaks of our new life in the resurrected Savior.
 
I’ve been debating on “Let There Be Peace On Earth” for the closing this weekend. Not 100% sure yet if I’ll use it.

Anyone have psalm suggestions (other than what is listed) for the Exaltation next Wednesday? I don’t have any arrangement of the Psalm of the Day, so I’m looking for a suitable substitute.

Thanks!
 
Does anyone know if the Psalms by Fr. Joseph Gelineau have been reset with the proper texts? I’ve always liked them and would love to purchase a book of them if they have been reset. I know he passed away a few years ago, so I’m not sure if anything will be done with them.
 
CatholicZ09 said:
“Be Still, My Soul” is another hymn set to FINLANDIA. It really “stirs the soul” in my opinion especially on this weekend. The last two suggestions are more “joyful” in my opinion. “I Am the Bread of Life” speaks of new life as does “Sing with All the Saints in Glory,” which speaks of our new life in the resurrected Savior.
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I love the FINLANDIA melody.
 
I didn’t get to use it, but this was my plan for last Wednesday:

Wednesday, September 7, 2011—Wednesday in the Twenty–Third Week in Ordinary Time
Entrance: Iustus es, Domine, antiphon from Simple English Propers
Offertory: Oraci Deum meum, antiphon from Simple English Propers
Santus: ICEL English
Memorial Acclamation: ICEL English
Agnus Dei: ICEL English
Communion: Vovete, antiphon from Simple English Propers
 
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