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Emad:
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inJESUS:
Yes you are right, however something extra wouldn’t be bad either would it? God tells us we can have Him as well as everything else. Can you show me where your religion teaches that you will be with God?
something extra to God?? oh Lord…that is indeed the fruit of a wordly mind.
 
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Emad:
something extra to God?? oh Lord…that is indeed the fruit of a wordly mind.
In fairness, I think part of the problem here is that Christians and Muslims (and Jews) have a very different concept of the body vs. soul.

Christians seem to see a clear distinction between the two, and the things that are good for the soul are what you’ll find in heaven.

I know for certain that this split is not characteristic of Judaism, so perhaps Emad can tell us about the body and soul in Islam. I can imagine perfectly well that a formless, shapeless heaven would make no sense to a faith that does not recognize a hard separation between bodily and spiritual things.
 
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pro_universal:
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inJESUS:
In fairness, I think part of the problem here is that Christians and Muslims (and Jews) have a very different concept of the body vs. soul.

Christians seem to see a clear distinction between the two, and the things that are good for the soul are what you’ll find in heaven.

I know for certain that this split is not characteristic of Judaism, so perhaps Emad can tell us about the body and soul in Islam. I can imagine perfectly well that a formless, shapeless heaven would make no sense to a faith that does not recognize a hard separation between bodily and spiritual things.
In heaven you have a body and a soul. Your body of the next life won’t be like your body of this life. Everything in the next life is different than this life, only thing that is similar is the names.
 
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Emad:
Some scholars interpret those 72 women to be just maids or servants.
Is virginity a prerequisit for work as a maid or servant in heaven? Are these maids and servants happy with their lower stature in heaven?
 
mark a:
Is virginity a prerequisit for work as a maid or servant in heaven? Are these maids and servants happy with their lower stature in heaven?
It is chastity. Certainly they are created for heaven and there is no such thing as unhappiness in heaven. They are not from this world.
 
mark a:
Is virginity a prerequisit for work as a maid or servant in heaven? Are these maids and servants happy with their lower stature in heaven?
they arent people who lived in this world. they are created as one of the pleasures of those people in heaven. What is meant behind the fact that they are virgins, means that they were created for the pleasure of that one person, never having been touched by anyone else.

I said this before…and i think its appropriate to say it again here. Why dont we worry about getting to Paradise, instead of debating what is going to be there?
 
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Faith101:
I said this before…and i think its appropriate to say it again here. Why dont we worry about getting to Paradise, instead of debating what is going to be there?
I agree, but I have a couple of questions concerning your statements below:
they arent people who lived in this world. they are created as one of the pleasures of those people in heaven.
Are they beings who have always been in heaven, or are they created especially for those who go to heaven when they get there?
What is meant behind the fact that they are virgins, means that they were created for the pleasure of that one person, never having been touched by anyone else.
Does “virgin” in this sense mean untouched sexually or is there some other meaning?

Do they remain virgins?
 
Are they beings who have always been in heaven, or are they created especially for those who go to heaven when they get there?
I don’t know.
Does “virgin” in this sense mean untouched sexually or is there some other meaning?
I dont know
Do they remain virgins?
I dont know. A long time ago, i heard in a lecture that they do remain virgins…but i dont remmeber the lecture, nor if that information comes from an authentic hadith or not.

I’ll tell you what i do know: that every single person who makes it into paradise, will be happy. This is what God has said and thats all i need to know 🙂
 
yea i read as well that these virgins return virgins after the intercourse…can you imagine 70 virgins returning virgins over and over again? :eek: why then only one is enough!!

these virgins are a “reward” to men; that is, if you die a good muslim man, Allah gives you women…
 
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inJESUS:
yea i read as well that these virgins return virgins after the intercourse…can you imagine 70 virgins returning virgins over and over again? :eek: why then only one is enough!!

these virgins are a “reward” to men; that is, if you die a good muslim man, Allah gives you women…
What happens if some of the men don’t like women…then what? Will there still be pleasure in heaven for them?
Not all men likes women you know… :ehh:
 
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Faith101:
I dont know. A long time ago, i heard in a lecture that they do remain virgins…but i dont remmeber the lecture, nor if that information comes from an authentic hadith or not.

I’ll tell you what i do know: that every single person who makes it into paradise, will be happy. This is what God has said and thats all i need to know 🙂
Thanks for your answers.
 
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cathgal:
What happens if some of the men don’t like women…then what? Will there still be pleasure in heaven for them?
Not all men likes women you know… :ehh:
The men and women will get whatever their heart desires. That is paradise.
 
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