Muslim Reaction Proves Pope’s Point

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Donohue is right on again.

catholicleague.org/06press_releases/quarter%203/060918_proves_pope.htm

“No wonder the pope has spoken against Turkey (where an official compared him to Hitler) joining the European Union. Not until Islam matures and Muslims come to reject the wanton destruction of innocent human life is there any chance of a real dialogue. The scene of Muslims calling for Jews and Christians to be murdered with impunity is all too common, as this latest demonstration of hate proves.”

I agree.
 
How quickly they forget all the western aid during the tsunami, all the Church collections here in Ireland and around the world, yes to feed Muslims etc;Indonesia and the surrounding islands has one of the largest Muslim populations.

Then they want to bite the hands that fed them, or rather dismember us.
That murdered Nun probably gave aid to them, and this is her pay-back, so sad, they have short memories.
 
Peace must have a different definition in the Islamic religion. Calling for the death of “unbelievers” is not in my not so humble opinion not very “peaceful”.
 
Wisdom 2: 12, 17 - 20

12 “Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law, and accuses us of sins against our training.
17 Let us see if his words are true, and let us test what will happen at the end of his life;
18 for if the righteous man is God’s son, he will help him, and will deliver him from the hand of his adversaries.
19 Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance.
20 Let us condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will be protected.”

James 3: 16 - 18

16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice.
17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, without uncertainty or insincerity.
18 And the harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace

Yep I think that about sums it.

God Bless
 
Caesar said:
What is wrong with those people? :mad:
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Better to say, “what is wrong with some of those people?” We gain nothing by painting a billion people with a broad brush.

You surely know there is a group of Fundamentalist Evangelical Dispensationalists who are Christian Zionists. And, they are Christians. And I am a Christian. Would it be right for a Moslem to say to me, “Those extremists are Christians. You are a Christian. Therefore you must be an extremist, too.”

If that’s not right, then it’s equally wrong to accuse the whole of Islam of the perversions of the few.
 
Richardols said:
Better to say, “what is wrong with some of those people?” We gain nothing by painting a billion people with a broad brush.

You surely know there is a group of Fundamentalist Evangelical Dispensationalists who are Christian Zionists. And, they are Christians. And I am a Christian. Would it be right for a Moslem to say to me, “Those extremists are Christians. You are a Christian. Therefore you must be an extremist, too.”

If that’s not right, then it’s equally wrong to accuse the whole of Islam of the perversions of the few.
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:amen:
In addition, I’d also like to note that this is not the broadbrush that our Holy Father paints Muslims with. He made that clear in his remarks.

In Peace,
DS
 
Richardols said:
Better to say, “what is wrong with some of those people?” We gain nothing by painting a billion people with a broad brush.

You surely know there is a group of Fundamentalist Evangelical Dispensationalists who are Christian Zionists. And, they are Christians. And I am a Christian. Would it be right for a Moslem to say to me, “Those extremists are Christians. You are a Christian. Therefore you must be an extremist, too.”

If that’s not right, then it’s equally wrong to accuse the whole of Islam of the perversions of the few.
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You are correct in not painting with tooooo broad a brush. After all we hear so many of the Muslim faithful telling the extreamists to stop their actions.:banghead: Oh I forgot they are the “silent” majority and fear for their safty if they say any thing.:confused:
 
Richardols said:
Better to say, “what is wrong with some of those people?” We gain nothing by painting a billion people with a broad brush.

You surely know there is a group of Fundamentalist Evangelical Dispensationalists who are Christian Zionists. And, they are Christians. And I am a Christian. Would it be right for a Moslem to say to me, “Those extremists are Christians. You are a Christian. Therefore you must be an extremist, too.”

If that’s not right, then it’s equally wrong to accuse the whole of Islam of the perversions of the few.
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I think “those people,” isn’t as vague as you say it is… “Those people,” are the extreamist… Nobody said “Those extreamist are Muslims.”
 
Richardols said:
Better to say, “what is wrong with some of those people?” We gain nothing by painting a billion people with a broad brush.

You surely know there is a group of Fundamentalist Evangelical Dispensationalists who are Christian Zionists. And, they are Christians. And I am a Christian. Would it be right for a Moslem to say to me, “Those extremists are Christians. You are a Christian. Therefore you must be an extremist, too.”

If that’s not right, then it’s equally wrong to accuse the whole of Islam of the perversions of the few.
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Oh, but it is so much easier to group everyone together and have an ‘enemy’, isn’t it? Let’s stop up our ears to those we don’t want to hear and only look for the extremists (just the way people do when they talk about Christians with contempt - but hey, we can complain about that as much as we like, even if we do exactly the same themselves about other people).

The reaction of Muslims to what’s going on doesn’t surprise me. I wish they had more sense, but it doesn’t surprise me.

What dismays me is reaction of some Catholics, here and elsewhere. Some people seem far keener to find something to hate than to listen to the teachings of God and his Church (Nostra Aetate). They stop up their ears to what the Pope has said, that he doesn’t agree, and quote what he said eagerly and say how right he was. Newsflash : The Pope doesn’t agree. He said explicitly that he didn’t agree with the quote he included. (Then again, we only listen to the Pope when he says things we agree with, don’t we? He makes a quote, we jump on it. He says he doesn’t agree with it, we stick our fingers in our ears, and pretend he did mean it all along. He tells us not to go to war, and we ignore him completely).

Mike
 
Richardols said:
Better to say, “what is wrong with some of those people?” We gain nothing by painting a billion people with a broad brush.

You surely know there is a group of Fundamentalist Evangelical Dispensationalists who are Christian Zionists. And, they are Christians. And I am a Christian. Would it be right for a Moslem to say to me, “Those extremists are Christians. You are a Christian. Therefore you must be an extremist, too.”

If that’s not right, then it’s equally wrong to accuse the whole of Islam of the perversions of the few.
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Well, I think the poster was referring to the same people you are.

The infighting in Iraq makes another statement about Muslims. Their faith truly seems to be a free for all.

Muslims seem to paint us Westerners all with the same broad brushstroke – not to mention that it doesn’t make sense. Perception is reality to a lot of folks.

I agree with the title of this thread. The Pope says something and the Muslims start firebombing churches. If the Muslims don’t catch and discipline those who firebombed those churches, then they are accomplices.
 
Crumpy said:
I agree with the title of this thread. The Pope says something and the Muslims start firebombing churches. If the Muslims don’t catch and discipline those who firebombed those churches, then they are accomplices.
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I must have missed all the occasions when the Catholics in Northern Ireland caught and ‘disciplined’ IRA bombers.

Mike
 
MikeWM said:
I must have missed all the occasions when the Catholics in Northern Ireland caught and ‘disciplined’ IRA bombers.

Mike
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They were, and are, condemed by Catholics… Now, you really believe that is mutually exclusive…?
 
AmyS said:
They were, and are, condemed by Catholics…
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You wouldn’t think so, watching the UK media at the time. Odd that, isn’t it?

And while they may have been condemned by Catholics (even though we weren’t told). I don’t recall them being ‘disciplined’.

Mike
 
I believe KathleenElise was referring to the lack of peaceful, faithful Muslims in leadership roles speaking out in a public forum. I myself watch alot of news, read the newspaper everyday, surf the web and never see it happen in my community or any others. That leads one to believe that no one or very few are speaking out.:cool:
 
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