We’ve had that happen in our parish: a simple committal service at the graveside for the cremated remains of someone who died and was cremated in another city. In the case I can remember best, the dad came to us months after his son had died and arranged to drill into the grave of his wife and deposit the urn into it since she and the son had both been Catholic and he didn’t want his son’s cremated remains buried elsewhere.
OK, I’m a convert here, so help me out. There isn’t some kind of rule that you have to be buried in a CATHOLIC cemetery, is there?
It is considered the “Correct” way to bury a Catholic who has died in the State of Grace. A Roman Catholic should be buried on “Consecrated Ground”. Look up your Archdiocese Graveyard in your area. They usually always have them available to specific locations.
-]-]/-]/-]You have a totally different conception of being Catholic than the Pope has.Someone on this page, as I can’t find the thread, said the “Funeral Liturgy?” is for a living members only who receive Holy Communion, and since they are dead it is not a Sacrament. Quite the contrary. The “Requiem Mass” is said specifically for the deceased soul, asking God to release them from Purgatory and the pains thereof. I’m a Traditional Roman Catholic,** Tridentine Rite ONLY, so I have a totally different conception of death, burial, etc. ** The “Requiem Mass” is essential, and the body “whole intact” is necessary for the burial service and the blessing which helps the poor souls in purgatory, and especially the deceased. NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAVE CATHOLICS EVER CREMATED BODIES, UNLESS THERE WAS A PLAGUE. THIS IS A MASONIC IMPLEMENTATION WITHOUT CAUSE OR NECESSITY.
I understand how you feel about cremation but you are trying to present it as if it were a dictate from the Code of Canon Law. That is not correct ant it does a disservice to people that do not know better, we are supposed to be witnesses to the truth and not pick and choose what we like and dislike.****CREMATION - OBJECTION - What is to prevent a Christian–Catholic or non-Catholic–from directing that his body be burned after his death? There is nothing intrinsically wrong in cremation and it may be made an important factor in public sanitation. (Answer is from Catholic Ready Answer Book, Rev. M.P. Hill, S.J., Benziger Edition, 1915) - ANSWER TO OBJECTION: We grant that in the bare idea of cremation there is nothing necessarily sinful. The burning of a human corpse is not necessarily or essentially wrong from a moral point of view. But this one consideration will not settle the practical question. "Cremation can not be considered apart from its associations or from its bearings upon Christian thought and usage. It is this relative significance of cremation that justifies the Church in “forbidding” the practice; and in forbidding it she has the sympathy and concurrence of the great mass of Christians of all denominations.
The reader need not be reminded that the practice of “cremating human corpses” which is now getting into vogue was a general pagan custom at the dawn of Christianity and that it was the Church that brought about its general “abolition”. With the advance of Christianity the funeral-pyres disappeared and human remains were reverently laid away in tombs. The Jews had never practised cremation, and the fact that the Chosen People and the Christians, their successors in the Faith, were at one on this point is very significant. It seems to indicate what estimate of the human body is the natural one to believers in the true God.
The early converts to Christianity had been accustomed as pagans to seeing the bodies of their deceased friends enveloped in flames, and then–nothing but a handful of ashes to be carried away for a remembrance; but now that they were Christians, they felt their natural affection awakened by their supernatural faith, and the human forms that were dear to them were left untouched save by the destructive forces of nature. But, what is more to the point, the Christians regarded the bodies of their friends as having been the temples of the Holy Ghost and as awaiting the day when they should be glorified by being united with thier souls in glory. Hence, “nothing more natural than a reverent guardianship of the remains of the dead who had died in the Lord.”
To-day the Church has a fresh motive for insisting on the perpetuation of Christian burial and the exclusion of cremation. “Enemies of the Church” who are bent on “destroying every vestige of ancient Christianity” are in the forefront of the movement in favor of Cremation. “THE FREEMASONS” in conjunction with certain cremating societies are making this a part of their propaganda against Christian beliefs and practices. “The Church”, as might be expected, is all the more zealous for her traditional mode of treating the remains of the dead, and she forbids her children to give any help or encouragement to a movement whose inspiration is anything but “Christian”.
Many eugenists also, regarding cemeteries of the prevailing type as a menace to the health of large communities, have been no less zealous advocates of cremation. Now the Church is alive to the necessity of guarding against infection arising from this or any other such source; and we may say with confidence that if the need for a change in direction of cremation were suffciently “urgent”, and if the evil complained of could not otherwise be removed, the Church would not object to cremation, where needed, any more than she has objected to the burning of human beings in certain plague-stricken cities; but these dangers are often exaggerated, or at least can be met by expedients short of cremation. The proper location of cemeteries and the rigorous enforcement of sanitary laws will doubtless be a sufficient solution of the problem for many a day.
It will be well for Catholics to know the positive prohibitions of the Church in the matter of cremation. We would ask our Catholic readers to note well the following regulations:
- It is unlawful for any one to order or direct that his own remains or those of another be cremated. It is unlawful to join any society whose object is to aid in the spread of the practice of cremation; and if any such society should be affiliated to masonic organizations members of the society would be under the same ban as the Masons themselves.
- It is never allowed to cooperate in the cremating of a body by giving orders, direction, or advice concerning it. There may be reasons in some cases why officials, servants, etc, may be permitted to be present and even to participate in the transaction, but they should ordinarily not do so without the consent of their confessors, who will be able to determine whether their mere material presence or cooperation is justifiable under the circumstances.
- No Catholic who has given orders that his body be cremated after death can receive the “sacraments of the dying” unless he is willing to cancel the orders.
- No one can be buried with the rites of the Church who is known to have decided, of his own free choice, to be cremated after death and to have persevered in his decision. Ignorance of the law of the Church or inability to reverse orders given for cremation may, however, be a just plea for indulgence at the hands of the Church.
ONE CAN SEE THIS WAS AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE TRUE MIND OF THE “ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH”, WHO LIKE CHRIST IS THE SAME TODAY, YESTERDAY AND TOMORROW.
Catholics are allowed cremation as long as all remains are kept together and buried. No keeping Uncle Bob on the mantle, no scattering ashes in the mountains. Can’t keep even a little for in a locket. But it is permitted to be cremated.Someone on this page, as I can’t find the thread, said the “Funeral Liturgy?” is for a living members only who receive Holy Communion, and since they are dead it is not a Sacrament. Quite the contrary. The “Requiem Mass” is said specifically for the deceased soul, asking God to release them from Purgatory and the pains thereof. I’m a Traditional Roman Catholic, Tridentine Rite ONLY, so I have a totally different conception of death, burial, etc. The “Requiem Mass” is essential, and the body “whole intact” is necessary for the burial service and the blessing which helps the poor souls in purgatory, and especially the deceased. NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH HAVE CATHOLICS EVER CREMATED BODIES, UNLESS THERE WAS A PLAGUE. THIS IS A MASONIC IMPLEMENTATION WITHOUT CAUSE OR NECESSITY.
There are many newer towns and communities with a communal cemetery. In that case the individual graves are blessed. In the OP’s case there is nothing preventing her from being buried next to her son and still have a committal service and the grave blessed.It is considered the “Correct” way to bury a Catholic who has died in the State of Grace. A Roman Catholic should be buried on “Consecrated Ground”. Look up your Archdiocese Graveyard in your area. They usually always have them available to specific locations.
I don’t know about that LONG quote because I was told that I CAN be cremated and have full Catholic burial rites as long as I am not being cremated to “deny the resurrection” which I don’t.
I respect your choice, but I’m just a “regular” Catholic.
Me too. I have no problem with being a Tridentine Catholic but I’m not one myself.
"Please look into the Tridentine Rite, and it’s meaning, by reading the “Pascendi” of Pope St. Pius X, available on Ebay.com.
Catechism of the Catholic Church- 2301
- Goody for them…I have to make that statement, because cremation is not respecting the body of a Baptized Catholic, who is a Temple of the Holy Ghost. Has the “Fact” that “You are a Temple of the Holy Ghost” been drive from your minds? What if the Blessed Virgin Mary’s body had been cremated? What if St. John Vianney, St. Catherine Laboure, St. Bernadette of Lourdes, St. Francis Xavier’s bodies had been cremated? Where would be the miracle of the incorruption of their Holy Remains? Where would we put their relics? This isnt’ in keeping with what the Catholic Church has always taught. 2,000 years of practice and Tradition blown up in ones face, because Masonic practice is now implemented in the Mainstream Church. Think about it.
Isn’t refusing to accept the teachings of the church wrong? I’m getting called out because I said I don’t want a funeral for not following the teachings of the church. Now someone is telling me that cremation is wrong even though the church teaches that it is OK as long as you do not do it to deny the resurrection. I totally believe in the resurrection and God will put me back together just fine.
I’m a CATHOLIC…I couldn’t care less how you subdivide yourselves.
- When you say a “Regular” Catholic, and put that in quotes, do you mean a “Mainstream Catholic”, a Post Vatican II Catholic or a Traditional Catholic? I am a Traditional Roman Catholic who adheres to the Magisterium of the Catholic Church, which was handed down by Jesus Christ to His Apostles. That means all Doctrines, Dogmas and Catholic Teaching from Tradition, which has never been altered or changed, according to what the Catholic Church ALWAYS TAUGHT for 2,000 years. Please read the “Pascendi” and find out if you are a “Regular Catholic.”
I was thinking the same thing, but what do I know
