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SonCatcher
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Lorrie,
I made no judgement at all. I held up a mirror to your judgement of yourself.
Those are words of a hurt person. One in need of the Great Physician. Healing is available if you will receive it.
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I made no judgement at all. I held up a mirror to your judgement of yourself.
Those are words of a hurt person. One in need of the Great Physician. Healing is available if you will receive it.
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maryjk
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I would be use caution. That price seems really low. I would wonder how cut rate they are.
We also had an immediate cremation, no viewing. And it was $3000.
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Irishgal49
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I have felt this way about funerals since I was about 12. The recent comments have nothing to do with my not wanting a funeral but were comments about purgatory. No one in my family has funerals, so it’s no big deal. I have a really awesome pair of priests in my parish and a spiritual director and no one that I asked (and I did ask in light of all this conversation) said it was WRONG. It’s not the NORM but it’s not a sin and it’s not WRONG.
I thought my comments you highlighted were quite beautiful. I am finally facing things responsibly, hoping that I can ammend my life and do something for Jesus that will matter instead of being so selfish. I am not hurting at all, I am thrilled to be back in the church. I take mass daily and am working on getting rid of sin. I will be proud to be purified and I don’t need healing to know that I will spend time there, it’s OK.
I don’t need healing but thanks anyway.
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siteunseen
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******So you want to frizzle in Purgatory??? Did you know the pains in purgatory are very much like Hell, except there is hope, and visits from Our Lady and the Saints for relief from time to time. One doesn’t want to be in Purgatory any longer than 30 seconds. One Half Hour seems like years. Don’t under-rate the Churches suffrages. The merits of the Mass are infinite.
I still encourage you to think less like a Pagan, and more like a Catholic. The idea of cremation is from Pagan Rites, and never came from the Catholic Church. It was totally unheard of that any Catholic should be cremated. Where would the Incorruptibles be now, if Cremation were permitted. St. Pius X, St. Bernadette of Lourdes, St. John Marie Vianney, St. Catherine Laboure, etc., etc. would be just ashes without the miracle of their incorrupt remains, if God wanted us to cremate. The body is the Temple of the Holy Ghost. You are defiling that temple by incinerating it, as though it were dung. Hitler cremated the bodies of the Jews in contempt of their existence. Decent people should never allow themselves to be cremated.
At least allow someone to offer a Requiem Mass for you, should you do all you decide to do. I think you can email us from here somewhere. I’d be more than happy to have a Requiem Mass offered for the repose of your soul should you pass away. Remember that please!
I still encourage you to think less like a Pagan, and more like a Catholic. The idea of cremation is from Pagan Rites, and never came from the Catholic Church. It was totally unheard of that any Catholic should be cremated. Where would the Incorruptibles be now, if Cremation were permitted. St. Pius X, St. Bernadette of Lourdes, St. John Marie Vianney, St. Catherine Laboure, etc., etc. would be just ashes without the miracle of their incorrupt remains, if God wanted us to cremate. The body is the Temple of the Holy Ghost. You are defiling that temple by incinerating it, as though it were dung. Hitler cremated the bodies of the Jews in contempt of their existence. Decent people should never allow themselves to be cremated.
At least allow someone to offer a Requiem Mass for you, should you do all you decide to do. I think you can email us from here somewhere. I’d be more than happy to have a Requiem Mass offered for the repose of your soul should you pass away. Remember that please!
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siteunseen
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Look around in your phone book. My Mother was buried with a full Funeral Service, and it was totally only $3,000.00 including Coffin, ride to place of Burial with Burial Service, etc. and the body had to be embalmed due to the fact she was buried in a vault in an outdoor crypt, and it is law to have the body embalmed. No frills, just Tridentine Rite Funeral Mass, Blessing of the Body, and Blessing of the place of final rest. There were 12 people at her Funeral. So what? I’d go to your Funeral, but I live in Oregon.
My Father has Life Insurance which would just cover the cost of the Funeral. We already paid for his crypt. I wish I could have you sons body placed next to yours at a Catholic Cemetery. It is important to have your body buried on consecrated ground.
When I visit my Mother at her place of burial “Mt. Calvary Catholic Cemetery”, I think of all the people around her, and even recognize some of the names. I also think of the fact that I may be there shortly myself, and what a glorious day on the final resurrection, when we all come to meet our King and our God for the final Judgement, rising glorious from our tombs to meet Him. I pray for everyone there when I go. It is so peaceful and beautiful.
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Irishgal49
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God bless you in your loss of your mother.
I don’t want a funeral and I AM being cremated. My priest said it was perfectly OK…in this way I can be buried in the same grave as my son. He wasn’t Catholic and moving him would cost money I don’t have…besides it would be very upsetting to move him as his father is resting beside him now. My sons don’t really have to bury me at all if they don’t wish to do so.
I really don’t WANT a funeral and if Jesus, in His fairness and justice WANTS me in purgatory for 1000 years then I will submit to His will. He understands my heart in ways I probably don’t …I think He knows us better than we know ourselves. He will understand my reasons for what I want and don’t want It’s NOT mandatory to have a Catholic funeral…thank goodness.
I don’t want a funeral and I AM being cremated. My priest said it was perfectly OK…in this way I can be buried in the same grave as my son. He wasn’t Catholic and moving him would cost money I don’t have…besides it would be very upsetting to move him as his father is resting beside him now. My sons don’t really have to bury me at all if they don’t wish to do so.
I really don’t WANT a funeral and if Jesus, in His fairness and justice WANTS me in purgatory for 1000 years then I will submit to His will. He understands my heart in ways I probably don’t …I think He knows us better than we know ourselves. He will understand my reasons for what I want and don’t want It’s NOT mandatory to have a Catholic funeral…thank goodness.
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benedictgal
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If you were in South Texas, I would gladly offer to help handle the arrangements of the funeral Mass. The Rite does state that you can have a funeral Mass with Cremains. The urn with the ashes should be brought into the church, the priest will celebrate the Mass and then give the ashes a proper Christian burial. You can still be cremated and have a funeral Mass.
I do think that you need to step back, read the Church’s teachings on the subject and spend some time in serious prayer before Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. From what you have written, you have experienced a lot of pain in your life; however, please do not deny that comfort and succor which Jesus, in the Divine Mercy of his Sacred Heart, willingly offers you.
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maryjk
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You realize that looking around in the phone book isn’t going to change anything that happened in May?Look around in your phone book. My Mother was buried with a full Funeral Service, and it was totally only $3,000.00 including Coffin, ride to place of Burial with Burial Service, etc. and the body had to be embalmed due to the fact she was buried in a vault in an outdoor crypt, and it is law to have the body embalmed. No frills, just Tridentine Rite Funeral Mass, Blessing of the Body, and Blessing of the place of final rest. There were 12 people at her Funeral. So what? I’d go to your Funeral, but I live in Oregon.
My Father has Life Insurance which would just cover the cost of the Funeral. We already paid for his crypt. I wish I could have you sons body placed next to yours at a Catholic Cemetery. It is important to have your body buried on consecrated ground.
When I visit my Mother at her place of burial “Mt. Calvary Catholic Cemetery”, I think of all the people around her, and even recognize some of the names. I also think of the fact that I may be there shortly myself, and what a glorious day on the final resurrection, when we all come to meet our King and our God for the final Judgement, rising glorious from our tombs to meet Him. I pray for everyone there when I go. It is so peaceful and beautiful.
Maybe you are quoting the wrong person. I haven’t given indication that I don’t want a funeral.
In fact, my mom had a funeral and my non-Catholic husband knows that I want to have a Catholic Funeral.Of course, I don’t feel that I have to have a “Tridentine Rite Funeral Mass.” A OF funeral Mass is fine.
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Irishgal49
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I have read Canon Law and the Catechism and talked to both of my priests as well as my spiritual director. While they all agreed that they would like to see me have a funeral it is ultimately between me and my children. My children are more than OK with it and I have my mind made up and the priest said it’s not a sin or wrong, just outside the norm. I don’t WANT it, that’s all and he said I don’t have to do it. It’s not a sacrament. Also I’ve been t his way LONG before I experienced pain in my life. I’ve felt like this since I was 13 or 14 years old. My family knows I’ve talked about this all my life.
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Irishgal49
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I was talking to my children today about this and my youngest son told me some things about his father’s funeral. He died very suddenly of a massive heart attack. There was no time for goodbye. Per his wishes (which are the same as mine) he was immediately cremated with no funeral and each of my son’s had some of his ashes made into pendants that they wear all the time. Then my sons picked up his urn (he and I are divorced) and they went to the car wash…now that is a funny joke that they share with their dad. Every time we went somewhere really important: weddings, funerals, graduations, even on my way to give birth (!) he would have to stop at the car wash. So my boys went and they talked to their dad and, yes they know he’s gone, but it was their time with him. They drove him to the cemetery and took turns hugging his urn and spending private time with him. They they each took a side of the box/urn and placed it in the open grave and then buried their father. This would never be allowed or even possible with a casket. Also because he was cremated he was put in the same grave as my oldest son who died in a car accident in 1996. This is not a Catholic cemetery but that is where I’m being buried, beside my son in the grave next to them. In that way my children can come to one place and visit all three of us.
If he would have been in a casket they would have never had the opportunity to enjoy that laughter, tears, hugs, and goodbye in the way that meant something to THEM. They told me that they were relieved that I won’t have a “church” funeral.
Now I know you can why can’t they drop off my ashes for a “funeral” and then my kids take them to the cemetery. Yes but then people will wag their tongues about how “ungrateful” my sons are to not even attend their mother’s funeral WHEN I DIDN’T EVEN WANT ONE IN THE FIRST PLACE. Or, knowing my family they would say this is PROOF that I was an awful mother that my kids wouldn’t even go to my funeral. My family HATES Catholics and my youngest son won’t step foot in a Catholic Church.
And the final kicker, my father sexually assaulted me at age 9 and everyone is mad because I won’t just “ignore it”. After watching my mother tear me to shreds on a speaker phone call my therapist at that time said she had never recommended this before but that I should avoid my mother as she would literally “destroy” me. She never held me once when I was a baby (my great grandma did all that since they lived with her), she never hugged me or loved me. So I have my children and grandchildren and that’s it. I never wanted a funeral since I was around 13-14 as they “creeped me out” and I still don’t.
My kids, after saying how much better they felt not having to go through all that agony and performing for people and dealing with stupid comments are delighted that their dad did what he did and I’m following suit. I told them they need to take my urn out to Buffalo Wild Wings and play trivia with a tall Guinness.
Lorrie
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siteunseen
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Your Priest said the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, isn’t a Sacrament??? A Catholic Funeral consists of #1. A Requiem Mass. #2. A Solemn Blessing of the Deceased’s Body. #3. Blessing of the Burial Plot, and Prayers for the Dead at the time of Burial.
There are sometimes Flowers given by members of the family or friends to adorn the Burial Plot. It is not gloomy, but rather soothing to the soul and heart, to see a loved one buried in the True Roman Catholic Tridentine Rite of the Catholic Church.
You don’t sound like a Traditional Catholic, so I can see your misunderstanding of what a Funeral is all about. You’ve had a lot of bad experiences in your life. You need time to heal from those in order to get a proper perspective on Death. Death is not creepy. It is a time of passage from this life into the next, which will be Heaven, Hell or Purgatory. You don’t understand the perspective of Death, or the Sacredness of the Human Body, being a Temple of the Holy Ghost.
You seem to want to trash your body, get it cremated, shove yourself out of the way, and end it all, because you have a dysfunctional family. Forget the family members, try to become acquainted with more Traditional Catholic people in your area, and study your Catechism, and read the Lives of the Saints. A good book to read is “The Glories of Mary” by Saint Alphonsus Liguori. Another good book to read is “The Passion and Death of Jesus Christ” by Saint Alphonsus Liguori. “The Secret of the Rosary” by St. Louis de Montfort is another wonderful book.
Are you, perchance, in ill health at this time? Do you think you haven’t long to live? Don’t worry about the Funeral, just get your soul ready for death. A Good Confession, and look over the Baltimore Catechism #3 by TAN Books and Publishers, before you make your General Confession.
Best of wishes to you. Do pray the Rosary Daily as requested by Our Lady of Fatima.
There are sometimes Flowers given by members of the family or friends to adorn the Burial Plot. It is not gloomy, but rather soothing to the soul and heart, to see a loved one buried in the True Roman Catholic Tridentine Rite of the Catholic Church.
You don’t sound like a Traditional Catholic, so I can see your misunderstanding of what a Funeral is all about. You’ve had a lot of bad experiences in your life. You need time to heal from those in order to get a proper perspective on Death. Death is not creepy. It is a time of passage from this life into the next, which will be Heaven, Hell or Purgatory. You don’t understand the perspective of Death, or the Sacredness of the Human Body, being a Temple of the Holy Ghost.
You seem to want to trash your body, get it cremated, shove yourself out of the way, and end it all, because you have a dysfunctional family. Forget the family members, try to become acquainted with more Traditional Catholic people in your area, and study your Catechism, and read the Lives of the Saints. A good book to read is “The Glories of Mary” by Saint Alphonsus Liguori. Another good book to read is “The Passion and Death of Jesus Christ” by Saint Alphonsus Liguori. “The Secret of the Rosary” by St. Louis de Montfort is another wonderful book.
Are you, perchance, in ill health at this time? Do you think you haven’t long to live? Don’t worry about the Funeral, just get your soul ready for death. A Good Confession, and look over the Baltimore Catechism #3 by TAN Books and Publishers, before you make your General Confession.
Best of wishes to you. Do pray the Rosary Daily as requested by Our Lady of Fatima.
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Irishgal49
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I don’t see the funeral “wrong” i have a very good understanding of it’s purpose and intention, and I totally support the right of Catholics to be buried in Catholic funeral rites IF THEY WISH…I just don’t WANT it.Your Priest said the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, isn’t a Sacrament??? A Catholic Funeral consists of #1. A Requiem Mass. #2. A Solemn Blessing of the Deceased’s Body. #3. Blessing of the Burial Plot, and Prayers for the Dead at the time of Burial.
There are sometimes Flowers given by members of the family or friends to adorn the Burial Plot. It is not gloomy, but rather soothing to the soul and heart, to see a loved one buried in the True Roman Catholic Tridentine Rite of the Catholic Church.
You don’t sound like a Traditional Catholic, so I can see your misunderstanding of what a Funeral is all about. You’ve had a lot of bad experiences in your life. You need time to heal from those in order to get a proper perspective on Death. Death is not creepy. It is a time of passage from this life into the next, which will be Heaven, Hell or Purgatory. You don’t understand the perspective of Death, or the Sacredness of the Human Body, being a Temple of the Holy Ghost.
You seem to want to trash your body, get it cremated, shove yourself out of the way, and end it all, because you have a dysfunctional family. Forget the family members, try to become acquainted with more Traditional Catholic people in your area, and study your Catechism, and read the Lives of the Saints. A good book to read is “The Glories of Mary” by Saint Alphonsus Liguori. Another good book to read is “The Passion and Death of Jesus Christ” by Saint Alphonsus Liguori. “The Secret of the Rosary” by St. Louis de Montfort is another wonderful book.
Are you, perchance, in ill health at this time? Do you think you haven’t long to live? Don’t worry about the Funeral, just get your soul ready for death. A Good Confession, and look over the Baltimore Catechism #3 by TAN Books and Publishers, before you make your General Confession.
Best of wishes to you. Do pray the Rosary Daily as requested by Our Lady of Fatima.
I am not in ill health and I’m 50 I’m not a 13 year old. I understand quite well what I’m saying and what I’m talking about. I’'m NOT going to change and I want my body handled by my children and lovingly placed beside my son who died years ago. That’s my desire and I don’t have a problem with it.
Thanks anyway,
Lorrie
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edithsteinrocks
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Irishgal49
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OK I made an appt to see my priest about this.
Lorrie
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happymommy
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Good luck!
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Phemie
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Wait, the only people who receive a sacrament are those who receive Communion and since the Funeral Liturgy need not be celebrated during Mass or include Communion the priest is correct.
A Catholic Funeral consists of several Rites
- Vigil for the Deceased
- Funeral Liturgy (can be within or outside of Mass)
- Rite of Committal.
- Prayers after Death (We usually do those at the bedside.)
- Gathering in the Presence of the Body (We usually do this when the family first view the body at the funeral home.)
- Transfer of the Body to the Church or the Place of Committal (We do this just before the casket is closed, some families opt to leave for the closing but others stay.)
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Irishgal49
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If I were having a funeral I AM being immediately cremated with no viewing so I guess you would incorporate those prayers elsewhere during the process.
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Irishgal49
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I basically got blew off when I asked to talk about it so to heck with it. I’m keeping things as they are right now. He was really rude in the email so I guess it’s not that important.
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Irishgal49
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I have a plot right next to my son. It’s not a Catholic cemetery but I wasn’t yet Catholic when we purchased it. And my son wasn’t Catholic. I will be buried next to him so at least that is set.
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Irishgal49
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Well I was thinking that my sons could then drive met the 2 hours south to my burial plot and have that time with me. When your grave is far away it’s much easier that way.
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