My boyfriend always wanted to be a priest

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As Roman Catholics you cannot normally change Rites to an eastern Rite church. so I do not think that the suggestion of changing Rite is a realistic possibility.
It is not a normal thing to occur, statistically speaking, but it can and does happen.
You have to petition your diocese and/or Rome. You need a good reason, proof of why this fits you, and you can only do it once. There may be more to it than this.

I am not encouraging this for you smurf, especially after reading more of the recent posts.

Some of the comments by others have been very good.
Don’t tolerate a guy who is not treating your right and is selfish. You are made for more.
I strongly encourage to follow Cupofkindness’ remark: “Listen to your spiritual director.”
 
I don’t feel qualified to give relationship advice, but as a seminarian, I am deeply distressed about what this man is doing, so it appears I am going to do so anyways. Seminary formation or religious order formation is a courtship, and a time of preparation for marriage, and that is not an empty analogy. Can you imagine if you and he were engaged, and he kept ties with other girlfriends, because he wasn’t sure, and wanted to keep his options open? That puts both the you and the Church in a terrible situation. Emotions do not just stop on a dime, and they were not designed to–they are created by God and should be respected. Emotions help us to understand that to which we are drawn, and when we are hurt. But, that is why the Church normally asks for all candidates to seminary be single, as in not dating at all, for two years before entering seminary. (It may be different for entrance into a novitiate) He shouldn’t be viewing formation as something he just “tries on,” any more than a relationship with you. He should approach either with firm commitment to the preparation. Nor is the Eastern Rite an option that lets him have it both ways.

I feel that he is doing you a terrible disservice in continuing to contact you at all, and doing terrible harm to his own emotions at the time as well. My humble advice is this: if you want to support his discernment entirely, tell him that he needs to discern his relationship to the Church alone, since you cannot do that for him, and then do not contact him at all, and do not answer calls from him. I would avoid even responding to letters, at least for quite some time (a year). To see the road, he needs to stand in a firm place. That place may be next to you, on the road you are both walking, or it may be a different road. You may be doing him the biggest favor you’ll ever know, and he you.

I’m also quite distressed that this has not been addressed by the vocation directors.

Finally, please remember that marriage is a wonderful and beautiful vocation. It is truly blessed beyond compare! But just as a parent should give his heart entirely and without reserve to his children, so a priest or religious should give his heart entirely to the Church, who is his Bride. If his situation changes later, consider it then, but don’t consider it an option now.

Pray for him, that he find his happiness in the Lord, and that he find the direction he is being called to.
 
I wanted to clarify something I said that was brought to my attention, regarding my comment about “trying to have it both ways.”

I apologize, I should have phrased that differently. I meant that he is a member of the Latin Rite Catholic Church, and if he is not prepared to embrace, willingly and joyfully, the requirements that the Church asks of him, then he should examine whether he feels he is called to the priesthood, rather than whether he is called to be a Latin Rite priest. If he truly feels he is called instead to the Eastern Rite, that is one thing; if he wants to change Rites because he wants to get married and be a priest both, then it sounds like he is trying to “have it both ways.”
Changing Rites is not a small matter, and I think formators on either side are going to wonder what a man’s motivations really are for wishing to change. I think it would be viewed as an attempt to find a loophole, not as an attempt to assume the Person of Christ.
Any other questions on this, please feel free to PM me, rather than allowing me to continue to derail Smurf’s topic.
 
He’s probably a good guy, but he seems somewhat selfish as well as immature. He might grow into maturity eventually but meanwhile he’s messing htings up for you. He’s trying to have his cake & eat it too. I don’t mean to be criticising him like this, I’m just concerned for you. I think it might be best if you spent time without contact with him. Let him know that if he decides definitively he wants to marry you, he can renew contact with you. Till then-no contact. This might help him realize (hopefully guided by God;s grace-but he can discern that aspect, you can’t ) which choice he really wants
Put this in Our Lady’s hands. If you think breaking off contact will give you a broken heart-I’ve just experienced something very similar so I’m not giving this advice lightly. If he’s supposed to marry you this dramatic measure will actually help him realise that. If he’s supposed to become a priest, contact with you is only confusing him. Either way, this is what I recomend. As I said, put your pain in Our Lady’s hands. Rmember Our Lady of sorrows. Read True Devotion to Mary by St Louis de Montfort. I also like Louisa DAngelo’s book. Type in her name on the web.:grouphug: We’re praying for the two of you.
 
He is a good guy, but yes I agree immature at that in the way he has handled things. I trying be the mature strong one here. We have calmed down on text messages or conversation to morning or evening to say goodnight. We both need to do a lot of thinking in this situation. It is hard to totally back away I wish I had more strength but I trying to at least slow things up emotionally. Maybe I am hoping with all this for an outcome that I might not like. But I guess only God knows answer but in meantime life has to keep going forward. I feel bad for my kids as they keep asking when he coming home. They grew close to him, it makes me sad. But they do not know where he is at this time, accept that he is away for work. When time comes and we discuss bringing closure to relationship then I will handle from there.

I thought ending my marriage before was stressful, but the emotional roller coaster that this has brought me on is truly more then expected. But the will have to end at some point. You cannot choose who you fall in love with, that I see. Relationships are not easy and take work on both ends. WE shall see, I keep praying for whatever road god wants me to follow.

You all have given me such great advice so far. Thanky you it helps greatly!!!
 
Saying goodnight? Really? Is this a good thing to do? Is his spiritual director aware of this? He is cheating the order he is with, and you are the mistress. Think, Smurf! Do the right thing and end it now. You are allowing your emotions to rule your behavior, not truth and righteousness. And yes, you can control who you fall in love with, it’s folly to believe otherwise. The real question is why you choose to stay in a dead-end relationship with a man who you seem to be using, just as he is using you. What needs does this crazy relationship meet for you? What voids does it fill? The need for drama? Forbidden romance? Distraction from single parenthood? Issues from your previous marriage? Loneliness? Despair? Fear of real commitment? Ask yourself that question. Why do you allow this? It is because you want your *will *more that you want God’s will to be done. You are afraid! Fear is driving you to cling to him, what does it take from God to get you off of this man’s back? Don’t go there! It never ends well when disobedience to God is the order of the day. Let him go, end it now. The longer you wait the more painful it will be for both of you.
 
I understand what you are saying here, but this is not all on my shoulders, the wrong doings in this relationship as ppl see them is on him too. It takes too. And when someone keeps you roped in it is not always that easy to pull away. Contact is daily and your right I should just ignore him and not answer but that is easier said then done. I mean I dont ignore anyone nevertheless just shut him out. I feel he should of backed away before he left in lieu of bringing me in closer. I cannot just shut off my emotions. As someone said they were not meant to do that, God created them so you can feel hurt, happiness, etc. I have so many emotions raging through me it is impossible to explain them all. As for reason why I stay with this supposed dead end relationship I dont know yet. I am definitly afraid but of what I dont know. Or maybe I tree to be the hopeless romantic and belive that true love is meant to be. My previous relationship was doomed from get go but I refuse to belive that until too late. Thought it would all work out. So now here I am again and figure how many bad runs can I have maybe I need to stick this out a little and see what can be.

Honestly I dont know answers anymore. IT has only been 2.5 weeks and aleady have so many mixed emotions. It does get easier everyday and I think I will if nothing good looks like it might come from my support I will eventually just say goodbye but to do that so quickly is hard for me feel like I did ot give it at least a little time. Plus either way this is good for me this time apart cause maybe it will help me find myself as he has to find himself.

Not sure if all this makes sense as I ramble on. Sorry
 
He is a good guy, but yes I agree immature at that in the way he has handled things. I trying be the mature strong one here. We have calmed down on text messages or conversation to morning or evening to say goodnight. We both need to do a lot of thinking in this situation. It is hard to totally back away I wish I had more strength but I trying to at least slow things up emotionally. Maybe I am hoping with all this for an outcome that I might not like. But I guess only God knows answer but in meantime life has to keep going forward. ** I feel bad for my kids as they keep asking when he coming home. They grew close to him, it makes me sad. But they do not know where he is at this time, accept that he is away for work. When time comes and we discuss bringing closure to relationship then I will handle from there. **

I thought ending my marriage before was stressful, but the emotional roller coaster that this has brought me on is truly more then expected. But the will have to end at some point. You cannot choose who you fall in love with, that I see. Relationships are not easy and take work on both ends. WE shall see, I keep praying for whatever road god wants me to follow.

You all have given me such great advice so far. Thanky you it helps greatly!!!
I don’t know if I missed these bolded parts before or what… 🤷

I think that you really need to use this time to go get some counseling. You should not be exposing your kids to this drama. Use counseling to find out why you are willing to keep at a failing relationship, why you are willing to settle for someone that truly is not committed to you and doesn’t know his own mind. Find out what makes you do what you do and you will be able to choose a strong man that is capable and worthy of loving you. Don’t settle just anyone that comes along just to have someone there. (By the way, I hope that you have gotten an annulment at this point if you are dating this man…)

And yes, you do choose who you fall in love with. Love is a decision you make every day. It is not some kind of magic or romance novel. If this man is really not the guy for you and you see all the signs, and yet you are remaining here, waiting around for him to make up his mind, it is because you have decided to love him.
 
You are probably right I need some sort of counseling to look into why I continue to put of with this relationship. Trust me I ask mysefl that everyday. Maybe I do live in a fantasy land where I think love will prevail here. But trust me I have thought about lot of things that people have said on here. Advice has been great and really makes you second guess what the hell I doing. I realize that I have been a constant support for him and been there for him and never left his side, but yet he keeps running not me. Now I feel it is my turn for someone to be there for me and support me and that I truly need to be in a more stable relationship that is healthy for me and my children.
 
You are probably right I need some sort of counseling to look into why I continue to put of with this relationship. Trust me I ask mysefl that everyday. Maybe I do live in a fantasy land where I think love will prevail here. But trust me I have thought about lot of things that people have said on here. Advice has been great and really makes you second guess what the hell I doing. I realize that I have been a constant support for him and been there for him and never left his side, but yet he keeps running not me. Now I feel it is my turn for someone to be there for me and support me and that I truly need to be in a more stable relationship that is healthy for me and my children.
Smurf, I was wondering where you went! And I’m so glad you checked in here today. Your remarks show that you are beginning to do the right things, good for you! I would agree that you live in a somewhat fantasy world. Your love has not prevailed, thinking that things will be different this time is rather crazy. I know, I’ve been there. I was crazy for thinking that our relationship might stand the test of the seminary. I allowed emotion and fear drive me to think and do wrongful things. And I knew better, of course I did!

The very best support you offer him is to let him figure out his vocation alone. The very best thing you can do for your own future is to leave him alone and be ready emotionally for the stable man you deserve. Counseling would be good for you. God be with you.
 
I realize that I have been a constant support for him and been there for him and never left his side, but yet he keeps running not me. Now I feel it is my turn for someone to be there for me and support me and that I truly need to be in a more stable relationship that is healthy for me and my children.
this dance requires two people.

You feel validated by having someone to watch over. That is why you can’t break off. You are getting something out of this relationship. Yes, we can ignore our emotions and act on our intellect. Your brain says you should not be in this relationship but there is an emotional reward of thinking he can’t make it without you that keeps you hooked to him.

If another nice man came along you would drop this guy like a hot potato.

You need to stop looking for a relationship until your children are grown and on their own. They do not need the drama of your sex/social life.
 
Well I have been seeing this guy for over 1 1/2 yrs. When we first started dating he told me of his desire to be a priest since he was young but was torn with it recently. He was originally in a seminary for 3 years but then came out for a few years and was contiplating his calling. Well then we met and became friends and just hit it off and started dating. He originally was to enter a religious order before we met and decided to wait a year. Well after we started dating a few months after brought this up about entering the religous order and maybe going in now rather then waiting so he can discern and wanted my support. Well was quite hesitant being relationship so new but at the same time we fell in love. He was quite torn with this decision too as we discussed it extensively but we both agreed we rather him go in now and discern then wait. Well he entered the order and we still of course kept contact via phone. Well 79 days later he comes out of this religious order and then comes home to me and his family (who mind you I have became very close with and they are like family to me also) and proceeds to tell us he was not happy there and wanted to enter this other religious order. Well two weeks after being home he left for next order. Within three months there he came home again. You can tell he was not happy and so torn. He decided to wait a year and told me that he felt our relationship did not have a real chance and wanted to give it a try. Well I thought this was great. But then he acted differently. Again out of sorts and very torn with me and his relationship with God. So as much as we stayed togther our relationship had many emotional ups and downs. But some how we stuck this out together and our relationship really soared and became so much stronger. We are both totally in love with each other and have the greatest relationship. We discuss marriage, family lie, etc. We do everything together. Our familie have great relationship too. Plus at this point we pratically living together. But still as great as things were in back of his mine was still priestly calling. So told me that he feels he needs to go away and do this one last time and try to discern if he is called to priesthood or married life. I know he loves me as much as I do him, it is quite evident but being this is something he felt he wanted his entire life, well of course it is scary to give that all up for your first true love. He has dated other but says never ever fell in love. So this is all new for both of us. (He is mid twenties and I early 30’s.) I am not sure if I am crazy but after lengthy discussions I agree to support him this one last time. So off he went yesterday on a plane to an order farther away. I am so sad right now and confused but at same time so in love but just want him to be happy as well as myself. It was very sad moment for both of us to say goodbye yesterday. He wants me to come and visit him in a month out there.

I am not sure how this all sounds but sometimes I think maybe his path in life has changed this is his fourth try and maybe he just scared to admit it. Maybe if being priest will not be his calling anymore then maybe God has placed him hear to maybe get his life in order to be a better husband for me down the line. I dont know. I just pray and leave this all in gods hands.
I good psychotherapist might be able to help him clarify his conflicted impulses. It need not be a religious person, but he might have a better connection with a priest who is well trained and experienced in the field.
 
Well was quite hesitant being relationship so new but at the same time we fell in love. He was quite torn with this decision too as we discussed it extensively but we both agreed we rather him go in now and discern then wait. Well he entered the order and we still of course kept contact via phone. Well 79 days later he comes out of this religious order and then comes home to me and his family (who mind you I have became very close with and they are like family to me also) and proceeds to tell us he was not happy there and wanted to enter this other religious order. Well two weeks after being home he left for next order. Within three months there he came home again. You can tell he was not happy and so torn. He decided to wait a year and told me that he felt our relationship did not have a real chance and wanted to give it a try. Well I thought this was great. But then he acted differently. Again out of sorts and very torn with me and his relationship with God. s.
this person sounds very conflicted and certainly not ready to make any long term commitment either to religious life or the vocation of marriage. Until he mends his relationship with God he is unable to enter into more lasting human relationships.

give him space and time. There is no relationship as yet, nor will there necessarily ever be one, in the sense of romance leading to marriage, but putting pressure on is not going to help either of you.

spend the time growing in your own faith and relationship with God, and discerning your own gifts and vocations, and God’s will for you in your life.
 
Now I feel it is my turn for someone to be there for me and support me and that I truly need to be in a more stable relationship that is healthy for me and my children.
smurf, perhaps it is time for you to learn to be there for yourself. While it is nice to have someone there to be beside you in life, you really need to be happy with yourself before you attract someone healthy enough that will be able to give you what you want.

Don’t settle for someone that can’t make up his mind about you or anything in his life. Someone else suggested that there is a “dance” going on here, and it is time for the dance to be over. You need to be the one to end it once and for all. You have children to raise. You don’t have the time to be off dancing when you have a family depending on you. I am not telling you that you need to be alone forever. But this guy…he isn’t the one. Don’t settle for what he throws at you to string you along while he tries (unsuccessfully it appears) to figure out his life.

May God bless you and guide you.
 
smurf, perhaps it is time for you to learn to be there for yourself. While it is nice to have someone there to be beside you in life, you really need to be happy with yourself before you attract someone healthy enough that will be able to give you what you want.

Don’t settle for someone that can’t make up his mind about you or anything in his life. Someone else suggested that there is a “dance” going on here, and it is time for the dance to be over. You need to be the one to end it once and for all. You have children to raise. You don’t have the time to be off dancing when you have a family depending on you. I am not telling you that you need to be alone forever. But this guy…he isn’t the one. Don’t settle for what he throws at you to string you along while he tries (unsuccessfully it appears) to figure out his life.

May God bless you and guide you.
**This excellent advice sums everything up perfectly. **
 
I know been a while but just wanted to say that things are getting easier for me. I slowly am backing off this relationship emotionally but believe me I am seeing the light. I am focusing on my children and myself and what is best for me. Right now I need to find myself and disern my life and I am finally seeing that. When the time is right someone will come into my life, in meantime I am trying to enjoy the present and what god has to offer for me now.
 
**Thanks for keeping us posted, Smurf. This is good news for everyone. It sounds like you are in greater possession of your emotions and energy now than you were a few weeks ago. How has he reacted to the changes you have made? How is your prayer life? Still praying for you. **
 
Well we both backed off but nothing much discussed, just gradually happening. I tried to talk about things with him and his attitude was he has no answers (as I did not think he would) and that figured we can discuss this at thanksgiving when he comes home. He has become very emotionless. Conversations had in my eyes is that he is not really changing much of his lifestyle so to me he will still be confused unless he gets control of his life. But this time without me. I will always be around, but not waiting around. As time passes I feel more content within myself. Time does heal. I pray daily as always and open my heart to god and that is why I am starting to see the signs he has been giving me for while just was not open to them.

Thank you for all your words, very passionate and concerning as you went thru it, so nice to know that you can relate.
 
Hi Smurf,

I would like to begin by saying THANK YOU for sharing your story… I just recently broken up with my boyfriend of 7 mos the other night and like your boyfriend, he is going through an emotional discernment crisis. This post together with all the wise advice of people here really enlightened me. I, too, feel sad about the situation. But it is clear that my boyfriend really needs space to discern his vocation. We have to let them go. You deserve a better man. A man who isn’t afraid of making a decision and standing up for it. Not just having a little of both.

Again, thank you… You’ve helped me a lot with grieving. 🙂

I hope and pray that you find your inner peace.

God bless you!🙂

imim
 
I am so sorry to hear that you are going thru this too. It is not a easy situation to deal iwth. It is quite trying at that. I am so glad my post and all the wondeful advice was able to help you thru your grieving process.

As you too deserve a better man, one who can make decision. One who can give you the love that you deserve, not one that you have to wait and see where you stand.

Anything I can help you thru let me know:)

Good luck and god bless you. 🙂
 
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