My Name...In The Gay "Enemy List"?

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Right - trying to redefine marriage to be between a man and an animal just wouldn’t work. But some will try.

It seems so obvious today, but I wonder in 10 years.
And what seems reasonable to some today was completely outlandish or an abomination a few generations ago. For example, not that I’m a big fan of the Reformers, but most of them were ardently against contraception.

It’s not unreasonable to think that some will try, considering the direction we have been headed over the last century.
 
Then why stop there? Why not ban premarital sex and extramarital sex? Why not pass a U.S. constitutional amendment creating a censorship board for movies that would cause moral harm to public or actors? Why not ban OTHER kinds of invalid marriage like remarriage without a previous finding of nullity?
Your terminology is incorrect. The government does not “ban” marriage. The government either recognizes marriage or does not recognize marriage.

The question being debated is whether the government, which represents the people, should give official recognition on our behalf that two men who take vows are officially married.

Your question should not be “why not ban extramarital sex” it should be “should the government give special recognition to people who commit adultery”.
 
Your terminology is incorrect. The government does not “ban” marriage. The government either recognizes marriage or does not recognize marriage.

The question being debated is whether the government, which represents the people, should give official recognition on our behalf that two men who take vows are officially married.

Your question should not be “why not ban extramarital sex” it should be “should the government give special recognition to people who commit adultery”.
Do you feel the same about premarital sex and homosexual sex? If so, then why would you be for civil unions which allow unmarried couples and homosexual couples to both be granted “recognition.”

There’s nothing “special” about homosexual couple recognition. It’s the same recognition given to heterosexual couples. If you want to call BOTH special recognition, then that’s fine.
 
There’s nothing “special” about homosexual couple recognition. It’s the same recognition given to heterosexual couples. If you want to call BOTH special recognition, then that’s fine.
Yes, (heterosexual) marriage is a special recognition the state gives to two people starting a family, to help them along, since the family is the basic unit of society.
 
the constitution supports gay/lesbian under private rights/
since it is constitutional it will exist forever.
the catholic church can be against this life style period end of message.
an amendment to the constitution can make this style of life illegal/forget neither the states nor congraa will do it/look at the havor because of proposition 8/
 
Do you have any evidence at all of this, like a police report number?
Are you serous?? :eek: :eek: You want this person to give you a POLICE REPORT NUMBER? Do you think this poster is an idiot? Why on earth would anyone ever hand over such private information on an internet bb??
Let’s see some evidence that a Christian tried to rape you to convert you back to heterosexuality. I assume this is the same incident where you were forced to use the male bathroom even though you cross-dress as a female, and someone tried to rape you, the police came but wouldn’t press charges.
If you think this type of stuff doesn’t happen all the time, you need to get your head out of the sand. I’ve seen very similar things happen to my friends, and I am not one who is promoting the ‘gay agenda’, so don’t even bother going there. This happens all the time.
 
Sorry, but I don’t see how this is any different than the anti-gay folks boycotting businesses that support the “gay agenda”, or pro-life people going after pro-choice people. We have the right to speak up and others have the right to speak up disagreeing with us. Unless someone attacks you personally, I don’t understand the problem. I’m assuming you are proud of your stand. People disagree. It’s a two way street. You get to sound off, so do they.
Thats the point they** are** posting individuals names and targeting individuals.
 
Much of the violence against gay and lesbian people is never followed up by police. I have a good friend who attends MCC, his is only one of the stories of violence that members of this congregation can relay. He had attended a concert at MCC one evening…it was picketed by “Christian conservatives”. While leaving he was accosted in the parking lot…beaten unconscious…the last thing he remembers is his attackers yelling “REPENT!!!”…nothing was done…reports were filed and swept under the rug…no witnesses other than this mans bloody face and bruised body. The police officer who took his report made a comment…“Seems you were in the wrong place at the wrong time.” This beaten gay man was in a church parking lot where “Christians” were picketing…

To dismiss violence against LGBT people simply because no one was able to come to trial or simply because the police did nothing…or because some on this board can’t get a name or badge number…is perpetuating the violence.
You may be happy about this story, they got the gay basher…

guardian.co.uk/music/2008/nov/24/2

But they only fined him, no justice…🤷
 
Yeah. I’m sure I’m not exaggerating at all.

Christians who support marriage between 1 man and 1 woman are not the ones who are hating. They are the ones targeted.

Spend a moment and read through the list.

What makes you think we are so far advanced as a human race that what happened only 60 yrs ago wouldn’t happen again?
Homosexuals were killedduring the holocaust. To say it was just Jews is ill-informed.
 
homosexuality and lesbian life style is a cowardly personality
choice because its an easier life style for them/rather then living the normal straight sexual life style. is it wrong or sinful? is this weakness a sin? is a person’s dna which causes these life style
an excuse for these homosexuals and lesbians?
 
Homosexuals were killedduring the holocaust. To say it was just Jews is ill-informed.
and it was homosexuals that were doing the killing too…:cool:

It is an outrage to the memory of the 6 million Jews and the other 6 million non-Jews to indicate that homosexuals were targeted by the NAZIs in the same manner as the Jews, since many of the NAZI leaders were homosexuals themselves. :mad:
 
Homosexuals were killedduring the holocaust. To say it was just Jews is ill-informed.
Many died as a result of Germany; many died as a result of other Axis powers and also the Allies. Many, including non-Jews died in camps due to Germany, Russia, and Japan during that war. But IMO, the focus on Jews for the term Holocaust is appropriate. Some Jews prefer the term Shoah. Either term is a Hebrew term laden with religious significance. Holocaust means “burnt offering” and is used in the OT (but is sometimes translated as burnt offerning). Shoah means “calamity.” If you are a Jew the suffering of your own people would naturally have a special significance. So criticizing Jews for focusing on the suffering of their own people is not good IMO.
 
They will come for you as an individual…
Raddon has always been open about being a** devoted member of the Mormon Church** and is the producer of a number of independent films, including the Lili Taylor-Guy Pearce movie A Slipping-Down Life. (The Advocate)
Then will come after your friends and your place of worship…
State officials to investigate Mormon Church’s Prop. 8 campaign activities

By Mike Swift
Mercury News
Posted: 11/25/2008 12:22:07 PM PST

The chief of a state commission that enforces elections law said today that it will launch an investigation of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints regarding alleged violations in the Proposition 8 campaign.

The Fair Political Practices Commission has notified the Mormon Church that it will investigate a claim that the LDS church did not disclose the value of non-monetary campaign activities,
including phone bank operations from Utah and Idaho that targeted voters in California. The complaint was filed Nov. 13 by *Fred Karger, an activist who opposed the constitutional ban on same-sex marriage *approved by 52 percent of voters on Election Day.
There is no timetable for the investigation, and the commission has made no determination about the validity of Karger’s sworn complaint, filed with the commission under penalty of perjury.
**“We’ll be looking into the allegations,” Roman Porter, the commission’s executive director, said today. "The timetable is really a factor of many issues relative to each individual complaint. **

A spokeswoman said the LDS Church would cooperate with the commission and was confident it had not violated state elections law.

"We will be sending information to the FPPC and believe that any investigation will confirm the Church’s compliance with applicable law," the spokeswoman, Kim Farah, said in a statement.
If violations are found, the commission has the ability to assess penalties of up to $5,000 per violation, and in certain cases to file civil lawsuits for up to three times the amount of unreported or inaccurately reported contributions. Porter declined to say whether the commission is investigating any other alleged violations the Prop. 8 campaign.
**:okpeople: Next!:onpatrol: **
 
and it was homosexuals that were doing the killing too…:cool:

It is an outrage to the memory of the 6 million Jews and the other 6 million non-Jews to indicate that homosexuals were targeted by the NAZIs in the same manner as the Jews, since many of the NAZI leaders were homosexuals themselves. :mad:
Hitler too had Jewish blood in him 😉
And killed Ernst Rohm, the most prominent homosexual in the Nazi party.
 
Many died as a result of Germany; many died as a result of other Axis powers and also the Allies. Many, including non-Jews died in camps due to Germany, Russia, and Japan during that war. But IMO, the focus on Jews for the term Holocaust is appropriate. Some Jews prefer the term Shoah. Either term is a Hebrew term laden with religious significance. Holocaust means “burnt offering” and is used in the OT (but is sometimes translated as burnt offerning). Shoah means “calamity.” If you are a Jew the suffering of your own people would naturally have a special significance. So criticizing Jews for focusing on the suffering of their own people is not good IMO.
I never criticized Jews. I criticized the idea that they were the only ones persecuted and killed. Blacks, JWs and masons were also murdered, but there weren’t numerically as many of them as Jews in Germany.
 
Hitler too had Jewish blood in him 😉
And killed Ernst Rohm, the most prominent homosexual in the Nazi party.
Correction Hitler was the most prominent #1 “gay” dude in the Party, oh he killed him(self) too:rolleyes:
In Germany’s National Vice
, Samuel Igra wrote that as a young man Hitler “had been a male prostitute in Vienna and Munich” (Igra:67). Lending credence to this is the fact that for quite a long time Hitler “chose to live in a Vienna flophouse known to be inhabited by many homosexuals” (Langer:192). That “flophouse” was the Meldemannstrasse Hostel. Hitler’s long-time “gay” friend Ernst Hanfstaengl identified this residence as “a place where elderly men went in search of young men for homosexual pleasures” (Machtan:56). “It was an open secret at the beginning of the 20th century,” adds Machtan, “that municipal hostels for homeless males were hubs of homosexual activity…[where many young men] kept themselves afloat by engaging in prostitution. Hitler spent over three years in this environment” (Machtan:51).
This would help to explain Hitler’s close relationships to his purportedly homosexual patrons Dietrich Eckart and Karl Haushofer. Rector writes that, as a young man, Hitler was often called “Der Schoen Adolf” (“the handsome Adolf”) and that later his looks “were also to some extent helpful in gaining big-money support from Ernst Roehm’s circle of wealthy gay friends” (Rector:52).
But Hitler was apparently not involved with homosexuality solely to survive financially. Even in his pre-Nazi years, most of Hitler’s reputed homosexual encounters were consensual meetings in which no money changed hands. Machtan suggests that each of Hitler’s longer-term relationships in his youth – with Reinhold Hanisch, August Kubizek, Rudolf Hausler and Ernst Hanfstaengl – were homosexual “love affairs.” More
The Germans under Hitler developed a “purely German i.e. de-Romanized and de-Judaicized form of Christianity,” writes Grunberger, while the growing “New Heathenism” rejected Jesus entirely and substituted “either
Wotan worship or a cult of nature centered on the Sun” (ibid.:482). Soon, this neo-paganism had entered the weakened churches. “German Christianity [began to focus] on the Aryan savior Jesus…[and theological studies appeared] under such titles as ‘Wotan and Jesus,’ ‘Baldur and the Bible,’ and ‘The German Savior’” (ibid.:482).
Despite all this, however, it would be a mistake to believe that the German church, as liberal and/or heretical as it had become, would have supported Hitler’s total agenda on its own. On the contrary, ***Hitler and the Nazi elite were forced to conduct a slow and methodical takeover of the German churches to silence their dissent. ***

The method - noted above - a slow methodical push of their agenda…%between%
 
Hitler too had Jewish blood in him ;).
Germany did not have a “one drop” rule for that. The German army had many who were part-Jewish. I don’t remember the exact cut off point. It may have been 1/4.
 
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