Myers Still Wants To Abuse Eucharist; Shows Deference To Islam

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Whoever sent him death threats were extremely unwise, and makes the rest of us who believe in the Real Presence look bad, not just Catholics.
 
I find this whole Myers saga so, so terribly upsetting and felt so helpless over what he did. In the same way that many people might have felt as they watched when Jesus was mocked and crucified. Oh, dear Lord.
 
Everyone, please pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy for him. And do not stop. Have him in your intentions every time you pray it and pray it at least once a day, not less.
Prayers & blessings
Deacon Ed B
 
Pons said:
Whoever sent him death threats were extremely unwise, and makes the rest of us who believe in the Real Presence look bad, not just Catholics.
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I have seen you post this in two threads now. Why are you worrying so much about a few misguided people who sent “threats”, none of which were carried out, when the man who instigated this entire escapade actually carried out his “threat” now? Myers got hundreds of polite e-mails from Catholics, too. None of which I have seen posted on his blog.
 
Teelynn said:
I just heard an interesting discussion about this situation…on the Catholic Radio Station in my area, the host of the program had on a priest (didn’t catch his name) that worked closely with Fr. Amorth the famous exorcist. I came in at the end of the program and he ran by him the Professor Myers desecration and asked his view on this…absolutely and without a doubt demonic from the core from the actual desecration to the whisperings of foul play with the Eucharist. Especially when publicized to this extent, it is meant to cause torment to God’s people. He said that the professor has either invoked the help of Satan or is in complete co operation with him, and he is in very very grave danger. He is inviting eternal and everlasting disaster, was how he put it. He prayed for him and for all that have been affected by this sacrilege.
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I’m currently reading Fr. Amorth’s books, and that was the first thing I thought of when I heard about it. I’m so afraid that we’re going to be seeing more of this.
 
Eden said:
Considering the fact that Myers has said he has already carried out his “threats”, I can see why you feel confident enough to underline it. Now the question is, how do we even know he had consecrated hosts? I saw someone on his blog saying he could easily buy a bag of unconsecrated hosts online. For instance, from a Protestant site like this:

kingdom.com/category.aspx?categoryID=430&adcode=Google&gclid=CNXE7pOy2ZQCFSY1agod6SG0lQ

Or here:

churchsupplywarehouse.com/catalog_subcategory.asp_Q_categoryId_E_63_A_Altar_Breads_E_Altar_Breads?gclid=CPSjrr6y2ZQCFQv7agodSFqjlA
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According to myers comment #200 on the great desecration the host is consecrated.
I knew the first thing that would happen is that the loons would claim it is a fake cracker. The one I chose to photograph is one that the sender actually provided video documentation of where it came from.
Not that there’s any substantial difference between the consecrated and unconsecrated version.
Posted by: PZ Myers | July 24, 2008 2:39 PM
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The guy who posted the video on youtube adds this to the video description
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				Added: 					July 13, 2008 					([Less info](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHPZFsGrt-Y#)) 				
			 				 					Guy in the striped shirt takes a cracker hostage in the Brompton Oratory, London, on 13th July 2008. The Catholic Church forfeits all rights to respect for its ludicrous beliefs, including 'transubstantiation', while its anti-condom campaign in Africa results in tens of thousands of deaths. The cracker will be kept wrapped in a condom until the Catholic Church recognises the legitimacy of the Golden Rule.
UPDATE: The cracker was sent to Dr. P.Z. Myers at the University of Minnesota at Morris. Dr. Myers has treated it with the respect it deserves and an account of its treatment can be found at:
 
thank you to whoever posted the e-mail for the professor. i also sent him an e-mail. i was polite but asked him several questions.
he doesn’t seem like a very mature man that he would need to perform an act like he did to prove something. i think he is a sad individual and probably needs prayers more than anything.
i am new to the Catholic faith, so this is all new to me and i don’t know why he would want to be so mean spirited towards those of the Catholic faith.
 
Eden said:
I have seen you post this in two threads now. Why are you worrying so much about a few misguided people who sent “threats”, none of which were carried out, when the man who instigated this entire escapade actually carried out his “threat” now? Myers got hundreds of polite e-mails from Catholics, too. None of which I have seen posted on his blog.
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I’m as disgusted as any good Catholic. The ones who sent him threats played right into his hands.

Could the other thread be merged into this somehow?

I don’t understand why non-believers bother to attack the Real Presence. Of course it’s “ludicrous” and unprovable scientifically but that’s why it’s a matter of faith.
 
This guy makes atheists look like…ugh, I can’t use the m-word, it may violate board rules.

His setting of a bad example has led to
  1. MORE Catholics praying
  2. MORE other Christians praying
  3. MORE people waking up and taking notice
  4. Atheism looking really bad
He lost. He just doesn’t know it yet. Even if he doesn’t get fired, he’s done more to help the Catholic faith than he thinks. He’s set the Militant Atheist movement back nicely.

Also, I don’t think it is a coincidence that Militant Atheists and satanists seek to steal and desecrate the Eucharist. When evil people seek to go after the Eucharist to do evil with it, that’s pretty much a loud testimonial to the truth of the Eucharist.
 
vee8 said:
According to myers comment #200 on the great desecration the host is consecrated.
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According to Myers… but he is obviously a very troubled “man”. Being a liar, too, is not out of the realm of possibilities.
 
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I hope a miracle happens so that he knows that there is power in the Eucharist. Wouldn’t it be cool if the Lord manifested himself visibly, like if the Host began bleeding or something? That would turn this guy around for sure.
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onetimeposter said:
That will not happen.
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Many Eucharistic miracles have occurred over the centuries following a desecration…
therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/oem_mh.htm
therealpresence.org/eucharst/mir/a3.html
God does not allow an evil act to be carried out unless a greater good can result! Our prayers are what is needed to bring about this greater good.
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“How many insults must Jesus Christ have suffered in this Sacrament, in order to remain with us. Some have trampled on the Sacred Host, and others have thrown It into the mire. He foresaw all these injuries; but still He resolved to remain with us on the altar, that we might not be deprived of His amiable presence.”
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St. Peter Julian Eymard
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I share the other poster’s fears that this is just the beginning. We aren’t standing up for our religious freedom, and we’re going to lose it.
This person needs our prayers and maybe even deserves our pity, but he also deserves our condemnation and the punishment of the state to the full extent of the law.
If this isn’t a hate crime, then hate crime doesn’t exist.
Others have expressed the hope that this incident will wake Catholics up; I’d like to share that hope, but I haven’t seen empirical evidence of its coming to pass. This thread is great, but preaching to the choir is not going to cut it this time.
 
**Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of your your dearly beloved son, our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for his sins and those of the whole world. For the sake of his sorrowful passion, have mercy on him and on the whole world. Amen. **
 
Emailing would do the opposite of what you people want to get out of it, infact he’d be even more thrilled, the less commotion that comes out of it, and the more silent prayer on the matter will see a better outcome.

Basics…
 
Hmm, professor eh. I guess some philosophers should put him to task. Not closely followed his reminiscing put into practice of his childhood prankster days at the expense of others, but still:

Now, being a professor, has he explained in detail what he expects as an outcome ‘IF the catholics were right’, and perhaps why he should get what he expects ‘IF the catholics were right’? His theories are closely leaning into the fallacy of the ‘argument from ignorance’. “Because there is no clear cut evidence I WISH to see, therefore it’s incorrect”

Just because something doesn’t happen the way you want it to, or expect it to, doesn’t mean it’s false. In either case, mockery isn’t practicality and sure as hell isn’t a valid science experiment. But then again, with ‘practical’ professors like these running around these days, who cares about experiments?
 
Harmony1988 said:
Emailing would do the opposite of what you people want to get out of it, infact he’d be even more thrilled, the less commotion that comes out of it, and the more silent prayer on the matter will see a better outcome.

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I’m not wasting my time e-mailing Mr. Myers. The guy obviously has a mental problem (I’m thinking he’s got an Antisocial Personality Disorder, I think someone else mentioned that as well), and anyone as hateful and spiteful as he is, well who knows what he’s capable of, and I’m certainly not giving him my e-mail address. This guy reminds me of Proverbs 29:22, “An angry man stirs up strife, And a hot-tempered man abounds in transgression.”

If you feel the need to e-mail someone, e-mail the President of the University and the Board of Regents and kindly let them know your opinion.

As for whether it’s real or not, I think the guy made the whole thing up. He’s been lying all along, so why would something change now.:rolleyes:
 
Jenny_Z said:
I’m currently reading Fr. Amorth’s books, and that was the first thing I thought of when I heard about it. I’m so afraid that we’re going to be seeing more of this.
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Funny that this was not the first thing I thought of…usually it is…but when I heard Fr. talking about this it made perfect sense to me. He seems to be cooperating with Satan as one of his little puppets. This is all indicative of the great need of prayer from God’s people. We need to be vigilant at communion, even if stationing a hospitality minister to watch as people consume the host…whatever it takes. And we need to pray the Divine Chaplet for him as Deacon Ed suggested, and for all those who are saluting him as their hero for this…daily!

And I feel the frustrations of PPeter when he says we need to stand up for our religious freedom but really, besides writing the President of the University, what can we do? I imagine we could have stormed his house and rescued the host, but then we would all be in jail!:eek: (that was just an off the wall remark:p ) I have already written to the American Catholic Lawyers Assoc. and have not gotten a response. The Catholic League (I believe) is doing all that is within the law, but ??? Yes, in all actuality, this is a hate crime, but how would you press charges? And who is going to take that on?

Pray people, pray!
 
Christophorus72 said:
I’m not wasting my time e-mailing Mr. Myers. The guy obviously has a mental problem (I’m thinking he’s got an Antisocial Personality Disorder, I think someone else mentioned that as well), and anyone as hateful and spiteful as he is, well who knows what he’s capable of, and I’m certainly not giving him my e-mail address. This guy reminds me of Proverbs 29:22, “An angry man stirs up strife, And a hot-tempered man abounds in transgression.”

If you feel the need to e-mail someone, e-mail the President of the University and the Board of Regents and kindly let them know your opinion.

As for whether it’s real or not, I think the guy made the whole thing up. He’s been lying all along, so why would something change now.:rolleyes:
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Err yes I agree, but I’m not the one emailing.
 
Harmony1988 said:
Err yes I agree, but I’m not the one emailing.
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sorry. didn’t meant to imply that you had.

I do find it funny reading the comments on his blog that several people calling themselves atheist are not thrilled he went through with this. In fact, many of them have said that by desecrating the Eucharist, he’s actually proven that it actually has religious significance, even in his eyes. I guess he’s a hypocrite after all.
 
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