Myers Still Wants To Abuse Eucharist; Shows Deference To Islam

[estesbob]

I’m not wasting my time e-mailing Mr. Myers. The guy obviously has a mental problem (I’m thinking he’s got an Antisocial Personality Disorder, I think someone else mentioned that as well), and anyone as hateful and spiteful as he is, well who knows what he’s capable of, and I’m certainly not giving him my e-mail address. This guy reminds me of Proverbs 29:22, “An angry man stirs up strife, And a hot-tempered man abounds in transgression.”

If you feel the need to e-mail someone, e-mail the President of the University and the Board of Regents and kindly let them know your opinion.

As for whether it’s real or not, I think the guy made the whole thing up. He’s been lying all along, so why would something change now.

And email the companies advertising on his blog.

 

[ppeter]

Teelynn:

we need to stand up for our religious freedom but really, besides writing the President of the University, what can we do? I imagine we could have stormed his house and rescued the host, but then we would all be in jail! (that was just an off the wall remark ) I have already written to the American Catholic Lawyers Assoc. and have not gotten a response. The Catholic League (I believe) is doing all that is within the law, but ??? Yes, in all actuality, this is a hate crime, but how would you press charges? And who is going to take that on?

Prayer is our first priority, of course, but it doesn’t necessarily absolve us of sins against prudence and fortitude.
I’m not a lawyer, but if someone steals, or has stolen, something sacred from a house of worship with the purpose of abusing it, isn’t this a crime? Does not committing this theft out of hatred for the members of a religion that has historically been discriminated against make it a hate crime? Could it not also be argued that his actions are a violation of Catholics’ civil rights under the First Amendment?
From a purely legal standpoint, his thoughts and words against religious people only have bearing if they violate his terms of employment at the state university.
I think the bishop should file criminal charges against this man, and if the bishop won’t, someone else should.
As far as federal law is concerned, I don’t know how one would proceed.
If we don’t defend our Church, it will become impossible for Catholics to worship normally ever again.

 

[Michael_Neal]

sorry. didn’t meant to imply that you had.

I do find it funny reading the comments on his blog that several people calling themselves atheist are not thrilled he went through with this. In fact, many of them have said that by desecrating the Eucharist, he’s actually proven that it actually has religious significance, even in his eyes. I guess he’s a hypocrite after all.

yep

 

[anon52328184]

i agree with ppeter. this seems to be similar to a hate crime.
some of the videos i saw on you tube are also blasphemus.
i don’t know if this violates any rights of Catholics, but someone should look into it.

 

[Christophorus72]

I just read his final comment from his blog (which by the way he decided to close, apparently because some of atheist buddies started calling him out on his hypocrisy, oh well). this part cracked me up:

But don’t confuse the fact that I find you and your church petty, foolish, twisted, and hateful to be a testimonial to the existence of your petty, foolish, twisted, hateful god

like I said, hypocrisy at it’s best. even his atheist buddies aren’t buying his nonsense. maybe they’ll be a few converts from this incident after all.

 

[Teelynn]

There will ALWAYS be good that comes out of a very bad situation such as this. It’s the way God operates.

I feel that we have an obligation as Catholic Christians to stand up for our rights, to stand up for Christ and His Church…in charity of course but at the same time, not taking a back seat…I think this may have opened a very large can of worms, and we should do everything we can to protect our rights to worship in peace. Who to contact and who to go to is the 64 million dollar question. Bill Donahue has filed a formal complaint to the President of U of M, but somehow, I don’t hold much stock in that. I don’t think he will respond at all. The Bishop might have some pull but ?..people of color have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton that have booming voices in the media and in the public arena but we have ??? I think it is a civil rights issue but don’t know who to go to that can really take it on. Somehow, the Knights of Columbus keeps running through my head but really what would they do?..sigh…I just keep praying.

 

[anon52328184]

teelynn - i agree with you on everything.

the people of color have jesse jackson, but we have something better which is Jesus so maybe something good will come out of this. like you said, we just have to keep praying.

 

[Thunderbird]

The Bishop might have some pull but ?..people of color have Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton that have booming voices in the media and in the public arena but we have ??? I think it is a civil rights issue but don’t know who to go to that can really take it on. Somehow, the Knights of Columbus keeps running through my head but really what would they do?..sigh…I just keep praying.

Okay, I get what you’re saying here but that was just poorly worded. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton aren’t so much a representation of the African American voice as they are talking heads with loud mouths.

With that out of the way, I agree with the principle of what you’re saying. I mean, there’s Phil Donahue and all but we lack a special interest group that can lead the charge to prevent things like this from happening again.

 

[Teelynn]

Okay, I get what you’re saying here but that was just poorly worded. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton aren’t so much a representation of the African American voice as they are talking heads with loud mouths.

With that out of the way, I agree with the principle of what you’re saying. I mean, there’s Phil Donahue and all but we lack a special interest group that can lead the charge to prevent things like this from happening again.

Well, whatever you call them, they seem to be the watch dogs that are in the news with every issue of even a remote discriminatory or condescending tone. And the media pays attention. And you are correct…we have no one that is weighty enough to hold water. We have Jesus of course, and He is the champion of all champions. Bill Donahue is ok but never seems to get anywhere. It would be nice to have someone to go to that could go to bat for us, for people to sit up and take notice. Sometimes it feels like we’re being run over by a freight train, with a world that stands there shrugging their shoulders.

 

[Aramis]

Sent the following to the chancellor of his institution:

Professor Myers’ recent publicity stunt involving the illicit obtaining of Catholic Eucharist is both unethical, and damaging to your university’s reputation.

It definitely makes me, as an educator (K-6), a Catholic, and a parent, less likely to consider your school appropriate for my children, since he’s used university resources in so doing, according to some of the posts on his blog.

If nothing else, an attack on religion using a public university’s resources implies attack by the State of Minnesota, or at the very least, an indifference to scandal by the same.

Her address is: grussing@morris.umn.edu

He’s thriving on it. Let the university, however, know it damages them by association.

 

[anon52328184]

he is probably receiving more than his 15 minutes of fame.
i hope the university takes the e-mails seriously that we have sent and doesn’t see them as a nuisance.

 

[peregrinus_WA]

Sent the following to the chancellor of his institution:

Her address is: grussing@morris.umn.edu

He’s thriving on it. Let the university, however, know it damages them by association.

Catholics who go to any of the University of Minnesota location are contributing to Scandal by supporting the universities.

Too bad the Bishops cannot place a prohibition on Catholics going to the University of Minnesota.

 

[Molly2000z]

I believe that I’ve previously read somewhere in a book or an article that scientists have previously attempted to analyze the substance of a Eucharistic host only discovering its accident (bread). A theologian, commenting on this work, essentially said, ‘No kidding – it’s not like we actually eat flesh or drink blood!’

Also, isn’t it true that a consecrated host will become unconsecrated if it is handled contrary to defined, acceptable use? I think I read this once also, though I can begin to think of where.

In short, I don’t think we need to worry about the host. Jesus can look after himself.

Where did you hear this?
How can a host become unconsecrated?
It’s a question that I have always had because there are times when visitors to the Church have received Holy Communion.
I watched this happen at a funeral where the visitors did NOT mean to be disrespectful, they thought that they were expressing their solidarity with their friend who had died.
When I asked one person why she received even though she was not Catholic she said that it was okay because it was a funeral mass.

 

[Molly2000z]

Okay, I get what you’re saying here but that was just poorly worded. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton aren’t so much a representation of the African American voice as they are talking heads with loud mouths.

With that out of the way, I agree with the principle of what you’re saying. I mean, there’s Phil Donahue and all but we lack a special interest group that can lead the charge to prevent things like this from happening again.

I don’t want to go OT (off topic) but Jackson and Sharpton do not speak on behalf of the African American community. They speak only for themselves and their followers.
For that matter, Donahue does NOT speak for me.
I find him arrogant and irritating.
As to WHO speaks for me, I would have to say that I seldom have disagreements with the Pope and so far, if the Pope says it, Molly agrees with it.

 

[Thunderbird]

Jackson and Sharpton do not speak on behalf of the African American community. They speak only for themselves and their followers.

Exactly. They certainly don’t represent ME.

For that matter, Donahue does NOT speak for me. I find him arrogant and irritating.

Which, consequently is the general consensus about Sharpton and Jackson.

As to WHO speaks for me, I would have to say that I seldom have disagreements with the Pope and so far, if the Pope says it, Molly agrees with it.

We’re thinking more along the lines of a group to champion our causes. Catholics (at least, American ones) don’t have one. People that will fight the courts when something happens that stifles our rights…like say, our right to not have consecrated Hosts stolen.

 

[Teelynn]

Exactly. They certainly don’t represent ME.

Which, consequently is the general consensus about Sharpton and Jackson.

We’re thinking more along the lines of a group to champion our causes. Catholics (at least, American ones) don’t have one. People that will fight the courts when something happens that stifles our rights…like say, our right to not have consecrated Hosts stolen.

I was only trying to make an analogy. I myself don’t particularly care for Jackson or Sharpton either, nor do I particularly care for Bill Donahue…quite frankly though, I don’t much care who it is at this point or how obnoxious I find them to be, I think we need someone (like thunderbird has stated, more along the lines of a group of someones) to defend the rights of Catholics to worship in peace and without being violated.

 

[anon52328184]

i am a new Catholic, but i have to admit, that before i became Catholic i would see bill donohue on programs and he is not a good spokesperson. he really turned me off. he is highly emptional and loses his temper easily and really does not give Catholics a good image i don’t think. i remember when Pope John Paul died and the funeral was on tv and all he could say was how much tv coverage this would be for Catholics. i was thinking, that shouldn’t be what is important right now, we should be mourning the passing of the Pope not how much tv coverage it will be for Catholics. i think Catholics definitely need someone that speaks for them. look how quick they come out to speak if someone makes an anti-semitic remark. or how quick CAIR responds to an offense against Islam.

 

[Just_Lurking]

Also, isn’t it true that a consecrated host will become unconsecrated if it is handled contrary to defined, acceptable use? I think I read this once also, though I can begin to think of where.

You may be thinking of the following, which is something altogether completely different:

Can. 1212 Sacred places lose their dedication or blessing if they have been destroyed in large part, or have been turned over permanently to profane use by decree of the competent ordinary or in fact.

 

[JPUSC]

I think this scandal may lead to a wider use of Communion on the tongue and use of the paten. I read that the London Oratory where the host was stolen from is returning to the practice.

I remember in my Catholic elementary school, one of my classmates was in line for Communion, but he dropped the host on the floor. He put the host in a container, I guess for disposal afterwards, but luckily one of the nuns saw him. He said he didn’t want to eat it because it was dirty from being on the floor. The priest gave him a good scolding after Mass.

 

[Maxply]

I don’t understand why Myers is not yet being charged with a hate crime. Certainly he’s dissing Catholics intensively and purposefully.

If you’re a Minnesotan, call the state’s attorney general.