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maryj
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than don’t forget!!!
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maggiemay2u
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I’ve continued writing and calling the diocese since last October. That was the tipping point for me. I have so many wonderful memories of SF growing up, none of them include Jesuits gone wild or Mayor Alioto openly defying the Catholic Church.
The priests condemned violations of commandments, they didn’t predicate their comments on whether or not they’d be invited to the mayor’s house or representative’s office. We walked for exercise not to vilify the Eucharist in the Castro.
Believe me, I won’t forget.
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elts1956
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I hope you and everyone else noted Rev. George H. Niederauer’s weak nelly answer and bowing down to Pelosi’s “right to conscience” in his letter of Aug. 5, 2008. He certainly doesn’t have my respect, “Prince of the Church”, or not.
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elts1956
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To me, his article was political gobble de gook. He gave Pelosi and any other Catholic a way to disregard the Church’s teaching regarding abotion. Pelosi’s and Niederauer’s conscience, baloney. I wanted to be even more “forceful”, but my little self would probably be asked not to return to the thread.
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Sailor_Kenshin
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Thank God Cardinal Egan and some other bishops did not pussyfoot around the issue. 
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Nordar
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I did I thought his letter was pure rubbish, he could not have praised Pelosi any more than he did. He spoke as if she had made a slight boo boo at Mass!
Why did it have to be so long? All he had to say was NO Ms Pelosi is very wrong The Church does NOT condone Abortion, and unless she changes her stance on it she cannot recieve The Eucharist. This is what Catholics need to hear, not all the other rubbish!
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maggiemay2u
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contact numbers and email address can be found on the diocese websiteI did I thought his letter was pure rubbish, he could not have praised Pelosi any more than he did. He spoke as if she had made a slight boo boo at Mass!
Why did it have to be so long? All he had to say was NO Ms Pelosi is very wrong The Church does NOT condone Abortion, and unless she changes her stance on it she cannot recieve The Eucharist. This is what Catholics need to hear, not all the other rubbish!
come November, I’ll bump my concerns up the ecclesiastical chain
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Another_Mary
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My parish is in the archdiocese of San Francisco. Fortunately we are a pretty orthodox lot.
I’ve participated in the Walk For Life the last several years in SF. It’s heartening to see all these people from all over Calif and the west coast marching through the streets of SF. It’s also encouraging to see the relatively small groups on the sidelines opposing us. (There may not be crowds of them but they sure are hateful.)
I ask west coast readers (and those from farther away who have the means) to consider coming to SF for the January 24, 2009 Walk for Life West Coast.
See walkforlifewc.com/
If you are coming from a distance, try staying outside of SF–I certainly don’t want them to have “tourist” dollars. Or, perhaps by contacting the folks at the above weblink you can secure a place to stay in the city in a Catholic school gym.
Just wanted all to know that, even though Nancy Pelosi is my elected representative, she does not speak for me. There are a lot of faithful Catholics in the archdiocese of SF.
I’ve participated in the Walk For Life the last several years in SF. It’s heartening to see all these people from all over Calif and the west coast marching through the streets of SF. It’s also encouraging to see the relatively small groups on the sidelines opposing us. (There may not be crowds of them but they sure are hateful.)
I ask west coast readers (and those from farther away who have the means) to consider coming to SF for the January 24, 2009 Walk for Life West Coast.
See walkforlifewc.com/
If you are coming from a distance, try staying outside of SF–I certainly don’t want them to have “tourist” dollars. Or, perhaps by contacting the folks at the above weblink you can secure a place to stay in the city in a Catholic school gym.
Just wanted all to know that, even though Nancy Pelosi is my elected representative, she does not speak for me. There are a lot of faithful Catholics in the archdiocese of SF.
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estesbob
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Me too. The problem is if the Bishop does it now Nancy Pelosi will give the excuse that he only did it to affect the outcome of the November election. I do believe he needs to come down hard on her once election is best. I also agree that he should’ve done this a long time ago.
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maggiemay2u
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As I’ve said in other posts, I lived in SF once upon a time (when Twin Peaks defined your political leaning) I have friends and relatives there still.My parish is in the archdiocese of San Francisco. Fortunately we are a pretty orthodox lot.
I’ve participated in the Walk For Life the last several years in SF. It’s heartening to see all these people from all over Calif and the west coast marching through the streets of SF. It’s also encouraging to see the relatively small groups on the sidelines opposing us. (There may not be crowds of them but they sure are hateful.)
I ask west coast readers (and those from farther away who have the means) to consider coming to SF for the January 24, 2009 Walk for Life West Coast.
See walkforlifewc.com/
If you are coming from a distance, try staying outside of SF–I certainly don’t want them to have “tourist” dollars. Or, perhaps by contacting the folks at the above weblink you can secure a place to stay in the city in a Catholic school gym.
Just wanted all to know that, even though Nancy Pelosi is my elected representative, she does not speak for me. There are a lot of faithful Catholics in the archdiocese of SF.
My cousin told me about the archbishop at the walk last year. If my cousin is correct, he got pretty snarky when asked about the goings on at MHRC. I would truly like to like the archbishop, he just won’t let me. I pray for his conversion and the conversion of SF.
As for the communing at ground zero for cultural decay, aka, San Francisco, and joining your city’s Walk for Life, a good idea:thumbsup: I understand it gets quite dicey with the screaming pro-aborts doing their best to intimidate. As person of a checkered activist past, it fighting oppression definitely appeals to me.
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Confiteor
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Regarding the Archbishop of SF’s letter: I understand the need to have that private conversation, but my goodness: too little, too late. How shameful that he had to quote other bishops in his response because he was so slow to address the issue. I gave him the benefit of the doubt because I thought his response would express an actual outcome: 1) Pelosi changes her tune or 2) she is not allowed to receive communion. That course is required per Canon Law 915 for these situations: “manifest, obstinate, persistent sinners.” Furthermore, if the Archbishop doesn’t act before the election, he will have neglected his duties. And if he doesn’t act, all bishops with Catholic candidates in a similar position will have a precedent to try to sit it out through the election and that “enabling” effect will have ensure another 10 million babies a year are murdered before, during or after birth. He needs to talk to her, give her a week to discern, and then address this scandal with the public. Preferably on Meet the Press where it all came to a head.
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maggiemay2u
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If Nancy Pelosi was advocating the killing of one year olds, instead of viable and non viable pre-borns, would it matter?
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maggiemay2u
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:clapping:
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estesbob
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Excellent point.! You are right!
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Sailor_Kenshin
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If you wait long enough, you’ll probably get to see her do just that.
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muskieman
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If someone walked up to you every Sunday and took the host and threw it on the floor, stomped on it and ground it under his/her heel the bishop, priest and laity would be outraged over that desecration and steps would be taken immediately from it happening again. Why then is the laity appearing to be the most outraged over this desecration.
I was speaking to a religious (who was being a devils advocate) who mentioned we don’t know what is in her heart, and she may have confessed her sin and promised to make a public announcement within a few days so we should not judge… Today’s reading is Paul saying not to judge but my answer is as above and to add to that this would mean that EM of the E should not exist if this is the only answer but it still does not answer the scandal that it presents to Catholic’s and non-Catholics
I was speaking to a religious (who was being a devils advocate) who mentioned we don’t know what is in her heart, and she may have confessed her sin and promised to make a public announcement within a few days so we should not judge… Today’s reading is Paul saying not to judge but my answer is as above and to add to that this would mean that EM of the E should not exist if this is the only answer but it still does not answer the scandal that it presents to Catholic’s and non-Catholics
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piperspop
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Please. Non-judgementalism is the first major step on the road to moral relativism. The Bishops didn’t want to judge to molesters in the church either.
I hate for an Anglican to have to teach them their job, but I thought, among other things, it was to teach, rule, and JUDGE.
I hate for an Anglican to have to teach them their job, but I thought, among other things, it was to teach, rule, and JUDGE.
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OnlyAmbrose
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Did St. Augustine say three months? 
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elts1956
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I have already mailed PELOSI’S (and she has him right where she wants him) Rev. George H. Niederauer my take on his “follow your conscience” letter. If you see anyone being roasted at a pole in the next few weeks, that will probably be me. I am sure Niederauer has a LOT of inside pull, or he would have been chastized by now.
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elts1956
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You have just as much right to state your thoughts and judgements as anyone else on the forum. I agree with you 100%. :yup:
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