Nathan Phillips rally attempted to disrupt Mass at DC’s National Shrine

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Adultery and fornication are absolutely part of the culture of death. The end result is often an innocent who is deemed “inconvenient”.
 
dvdjs said:
It is different. And adultery and fornication are different. But what has that to do with the issue of “support”?
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I personally oppose infanticide, but I would never want to impose my strict moral views on someone who doesn’t share them and kill their newborn child. Wow…this is great. It works with slavery, euthanasia, and all sorts of difficult moral questions too It’s a great all purpose out
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Adultery and fornication are absolutely part of the culture of death. The end result is often an innocent who is deemed “inconvenient”.
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I was “inconvenient”, but my parents did the right thing by getting married and having me.
 
Unfortunately some of the rhetoric by pro lifers calling those who are pro choice…murderers…they condone murder etc… doesn’t help one iota to change those who are pro choice…some of them are atheists…some are Christians who don’t see it the same as we who do consider it taking a life…some are not Christians…many…if not most of them probably don’t see it as murder…many probably don’t even see that fetus as a tiny human being…so getting in their face by calling them murderers is just going to have the opposite effect…it’s by showing Christian love and charity that you win their hearts and minds to the evil that is abortion
 
Really? Then why is there hesitation about ultra sounds in PP or in giving young women information that my sway their thinking in abortion? I’ve seen statistics (and I know you will want to see them too) of young women who see clips of ultra sound who change their stance on abortion…
 
Exactly…any woman wanting an abortion should have to take an ultrasound showing the tiny human being growing inside her…make it a priority to educate not so much about the option of abortion…but about other options that are available to help women avoid making that terrible choice…much better than pointing the finger at them and calling them murderers…oh…and make the spouse…boyfriend…or whoever…see the ultrasound as well…
 
Peebo said:
“Exactly…any woman wanting an abortion should have to take an ultrasound showing the tiny human being growing inside her…make it a priority to educate not so much about the option of abortion…but about other options that are available to help women avoid making that terrible choice…much better than pointing the finger at them and calling them murderers…oh…and make the spouse…boyfriend…or whoever…see the ultrasound as well…”
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Maybe in an ideal world you could “make” both parties see an ultrasound of the tiny human they created. But we are talking about the United States of the Perpetually Offended. The reality would would be lawsuits flying all over the place.
 
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One could argue that they are complicit in the murder of human beings.
 
jeannetherese said:
One could argue that they are complicit in the murder of human beings.
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One could. One could also make the argument that people who think that the state should ot have laws against adultery, and/or vote for people who have that view, of act on that view as a legislator are complicit in adultery.

In Roman Catholic moral thinking, however, the argument would not be limited to the category of “complicit” but further consider formal/material and remote/proximate cooperation in sin.
 
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dvdjs said:
In Roman Catholic moral thinking, however, the argument would not be limited to the category of “complicit” but further consider formal/material and remote/proximate cooperation in sin.
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Indeed.
It reminds me of Cain’s sullen response to the Lord when called out about the death of Able: “Am I my brothers’ keeper?”
And we know Our Lord’s response to this argument.
"And he said to him: What hast thou done? the voice of thy brother’s blood crieth to me from the earth. " Genesis 4: 9-10.
 
phujosh said:
All of the past presidents had no problem releasing their taxes as a public political figure. He had the audacity to question President Obama’s birth certificate and Obama gladly released it. Why can’t Trump release his questionable tax returns?
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I tend to think even many Trump supporters know why but won’t post or say it. He promised on numerous occasions before the election that he would release his tax returns but clearly lied about that-- and about a lot of other things as well, needless to say.
 
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MagdalenaRita:
I could pretty much bet that if President Trump was pro-abortion, you would never hear about any of these things from the leftist media.
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I disagree. Not even President Clinton could escape the bombardment of media. He was even impeached for his sexual misconduct. Liberal men, even of no political power cannot escape the scrutiny and are chewed by the media, also. Harvey Weinstein, Les Moonves, Matt Lauer, O.J. Simpson, Michael Jackson, Bill Cosby… It’s amazing that Trump is able to escape his past sexual sins. Just saying…
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No, he was impeached for lying under oath.
 
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