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[opus101]

The problem is not that they emphasize social issues. There is nothing wrong with that. The problem is that they emphasize them to the absolute exclusion of everything else.

For sure, this is a problem.

I wish there was a publication that did not cater to fringes, whether they be on the left or right. Personally, I don’t think the National Catholic Register is all that terrific either. But I do prefer it to the Reporter by a long shot.

Even the Register filters things through political lenses and often seems to cater to (politically) right wing donors (and I’m not referring to abortion, other life issues and homosexuality - the Catholic view on these things is clear). This is very obvious on some EWTN shows, quite often with “The World Over”.

I think the USCCB should have its own newspaper and television network.

 

[YoungTradCath]

For sure, this is a problem.

I wish there was a publication that did not cater to fringes, whether they be on the left or right. Personally, I don’t think the National Catholic Register is all that terrific either. But I do prefer it to the Reporter by a long shot.

Even the Register filters things through political lenses and often seems to cater to (politically) right wing donors (and I’m not referring to abortion, other life issues and homosexuality - the Catholic view on these things is clear). This is very obvious on some EWTN shows, quite often with “The World Over”.
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I think the USCCB should have its own newspaper and television network**.

Frankly I think that would be awful, unless it was demure as CSPAN or something.

 

[_Abyssinia]

NCR editors wrote an editorial calling for women’s ordination

catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=38994

This wasn’t a commentary by one of their various journalists, if that wasn’t bad enough, this was an editorial from the editors.

I read an article on NCR from a woman who wrote an article that women who are pregnant and raped have a ‘right to choose,’ totally at odds with Catholic teaching.

 

[opus101]

Frankly I think that would be awful, unless it was demure as CSPAN or something.

Why do you think it would be awful?

They could air daily Mass from the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception and other places, maybe visiting the various Cathedrals of America.

Bishops with special competencies could air educational programs…Bishop Sample and/ or Bishop Olmsted could teach us about sacred liturgical music.

Those who head the various committees can teach us about those particular aspects of our faith.

There are so many things that the Successors of the Apostles could do to teach the authentic faith through the media

We need to hear them first-hand, without a left or right leaning bias.

The reason why so many have such poor knowledge of the Catholic faith (Catholics and non-Catholics alike) is because the authentic teachers of the Faith are not heard without media bias and spin.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Why do you think it would be awful?

They could air daily Mass from the Shrine of the Immaculate Conception and other places, maybe visiting the various Cathedrals of America.

Bishops with special competencies could air educational programs…Bishop Sample and/ or Bishop Olmsted could teach us about sacred liturgical music.

Those who head the various committees can teach us about those particular aspects of our faith.

There are so many things that the Successors of the Apostles could do to teach the authentic faith through the media

We need to hear them first-hand, without a left or right leaning bias.

The reason why so many have such poor knowledge of the Catholic faith (Catholics and non-Catholics alike) is because the authentic teachers of the Faith are not heard without media bias and spin.

It probably would be a good thing for the bishops to have their own media outlet, right after USCCB is thoroughly reformed. I, for one, have a problem with broadcasting “teachings” from “those who head various committees”, because sometimes their utterances are actually reflective of their personal political affinities, like Bp. Blair’s endorsement of Obama’s gun control proposals, or his critique of the Ryan budget’s proposal to raise food stamp spending by 8% instead of the 12% Obama wanted.

And the USCCB is mostly composed of laymen as an organization. So there’s no particular reason to make it the spokesman for the Church.

I think in time the newer bishops will gain control of the USCCB and reform it. But for the present, the idea is concerning.

 

[Joe_5859]

I could be wrong but I really don’t think that’s what they’re doing – no one I know who reads an editorial via the NC Reporter that advocates anything other than Catholic teachings actually believes the Church also espouses such views. Maybe they think the Church *should *espouse such views, but that’s not the same thing.

Fair enough. But I don’t think the Church is well served by encouraging people to pine after changes that will never happen.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I hope they go bankrupt. I think it’s only a matter of time.

I doubt they will, despite an infinitesimal subscribership of what? 30,000? And some of those subscribers would be organizations.

As a dissident publication purporting to be Catholic, it will likely always have the support of dissident and/or anti-Catholic organizations and foundations, not because it reaches a lot of people (which it doesn’t) but because it can be quoted as a “Catholic” publication by other outlets who either oppose the Church or dissent from its teachings. It’s sort of like the way media outlets used to trot out Richard McBrien as a “Catholic authority”.

No, I think its future is pretty well secured, and would be if nobody subscribed to it at all.

 

[opus101]

It probably would be a good thing for the bishops to have their own media outlet, right after USCCB is thoroughly reformed. I, for one, have a problem with broadcasting “teachings” from “those who head various committees”, because sometimes their utterances are actually reflective of their personal political affinities

Which, of course, would be no different than the two media outlets we’ve been speaking of.

like Bp. Blair’s endorsement of Obama’s gun control proposals, or his critique of the Ryan budget’s proposal to raise food stamp spending by 8% instead of the 12% Obama wanted.

Your true allegiance is showing.

 

[opus101]

Frankly I think that would be awful, unless it was demure as CSPAN or something.

In the Catholic Church, there is a authoritative difference between apostles and lay persons. Different roles.

 

[Tigg]

I could be wrong but I really don’t think that’s what they’re doing – no one I know who reads an editorial via the NC Reporter that advocates anything other than Catholic teachings actually believes the Church also espouses such views. Maybe they think the Church *should *espouse such views, but that’s not the same thing.

Are you kidding? It’s encouragement and fuel for the fire of rebellion.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Your true allegiance is showing.

Oh really? To whom or what is my “true allegiance”? Be specific now, since you purport to know.

 

[gracepoole]

Are you kidding? It’s encouragement and fuel for the fire of rebellion.

Encouragement of what? What is the “fire of rebellion”? As I said earlier, if the Church doesn’t change it doesn’t change. Why worry about those who wish it to?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Encouragement of what? What is the “fire of rebellion”? As I said earlier, if the Church doesn’t change it doesn’t change. Why worry about those who wish it to?

One shouldn’t worry about those who privately wish this or that. It’s when they encourage others to question the teachings of the Church that it becomes problematic.

 

[gracepoole]

One shouldn’t worry about those who privately wish this or that. It’s when they encourage others to question the teachings of the Church that it becomes problematic.

I’m guessing that readers of the NC Reporter are already questioning before stumbling upon this publication. I really, really doubt that people start questioning because they’ve read something encouraging change. It seems more likely that they seek out the NC Reporter *after *questioning.

I have to point out, as well, that questioning in and of itself isn’t problematic. The Church isn’t a dictatorship, even if the Holy See always has the final say.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I’m guessing that readers of the NC Reporter are already questioning before stumbling upon this publication. I really, really doubt that people start questioning because they’ve read something encouraging change. It seems more likely that they seek out the NC Reporter *after *questioning.

I have to point out, as well, that questioning in and of itself isn’t problematic. The Church isn’t a dictatorship, even if the Holy See always has the final say.

I agree that probably anybody who subscribes to the NC Reporter today is likely a dissident already. But insofar as the NC Reporter is cited in the secular media as an authoritative “Catholic” source for dissident views, it continues to scandalize anew.

I also agree that the Church has not discouraged diverse views per se. It has a problem when those whose diversity is dissent is promulgated among the faithful.

And even among dissidents, it can be thought of as validation of views that might otherwise be abandoned.

 

[MarcoPolo]

If NCR is so bad, why do Church leaders continue to grant them interviews?

Just last month, Archbishop Charles Chaput of Philadelphia sat down for an interview with John Allen, Jr. while in Rio

Perhaps because John Allen is a good reporter for an often borderline-heretical, if not heretical publication, and the Archbishop’s views may otherwise never reach those readers. Just speculating…

 

[Julian_Bashir]

Ridgerunner:

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Originally Posted by YoungTradCath

I hope they go bankrupt. I think it’s only a matter of time.

I doubt they will, despite an infinitesimal subscribership of what? 30,000? And some of those subscribers would be organizations.

As a dissident publication purporting to be Catholic, it will likely always have the support of dissident and/or anti-Catholic organizations and foundations, not because it reaches a lot of people (which it doesn’t) but because it can be quoted as a “Catholic” publication by other outlets who either oppose the Church or dissent from its teachings. It’s sort of like the way media outlets used to trot out Richard McBrien as a “Catholic authority”.

No, I think its future is pretty well secured, and would be if nobody subscribed to it at all.

The NCR is non-Catholic garbage. Anyone supporting their tripe like doesn’t actually want to be Catholic to begin with. They can however lead others away from God, which is why we need to oppose them and watch out for them.

The problem with them losing funding is that satan loves dissidents, and he has a lot of money to continue funding this sort of anti Catholic News. The battle will continue to rage on until the church snuffs it out.

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[Joe_5859]

The NCR is non-Catholic garbage.

I think you mean non-Catholic refuse. Non-Catholic garbage would be NCG.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I don’t really like using “cutesie” nicknames for the purpose of disparagement.

 

[Julian_Bashir]

I think you mean non-Catholic refuse. Non-Catholic garbage would be NCG.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist. I don’t really like using “cutesie” nicknames for the purpose of disparagement.

True, and see the National Catholic Register is an actual decent publication that is actually Catholic, I don’t want slam the whole abbreviation.

 

[bellasbane]

NCR editors wrote an editorial calling for women’s ordination

catholicvote.org/discuss/index.php?p=38994

This wasn’t a commentary by one of their various journalists, if that wasn’t bad enough, this was an editorial from the editors.

I read an article on NCR from a woman who wrote an article that women who are pregnant and raped have a ‘right to choose,’ totally at odds with Catholic teaching.

The link you provided doesn’t work and your allegation is unsubstantiated. You usually do better than this.