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goitalone
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Whatever that’s suppose to mean lol!
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goitalone
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You got a national sunday law book in the mail? Heck, I don’t even get those…yer lucky!
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goitalone
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Thanks though deb, you seem very sweet and whether we disagree or not, I do thank you for your concern and kind thoughts!My heart goes out to you, I will pray for you.
Thank you!
I will pray also that you come to realize the true church. I already have, thanks though
If you were Catholic no offense, but…not gunna happen
you could go to confession and have your sins forgiven
I do not now nor ever will believe that a priest can forgive a ones sins
and speak to the priest who could council you in how to make progress in turning from these sins that torment you so.
If the Lord helps me get back into church I may confide in my pastor there maybe
Christ knew that we need more than recognizing our sin and asking for forgiveness. Some times we need help in forgiving our selves and or council to move forward and away from sin. Thats why He instituted the Sacraments and his Catholic Church.
Thanks, but I do cannot agree with you here!
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goitalone
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Yes, thank you as well…it sure isn’t easy is it? lol!
Thank you very much as well too Simplesinner lol…I like that name alot for some reason
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RNRobert
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I understand, but many of those here (MarysRoses, SDA2RC, adventistnomore, and others) have been where you were and found the truth lacking (and as I said in earlier posts, I considered Adventism but found it wanting as those mentioned above did and so never joined) and so became Catholic in order to embrace the fullness of Christian truth.
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Mommyof02green
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Members at CAF are not bound to certain area…
On the main page the description of the Non-Catholic Forum states:
“Comparing and contrasting beliefs”
It’s an area to post about Non-Catholic religions and believes so that EVERYONE has chances to learn.
Learn about Non-Catholic beliefs, and how they are similar or different to Catholicism or other Non-Catholic beliefs.
God Bless!
Also majority of the posters here at CAF are Catholic…
I don’t know exact % but I do have an opinion that it is at least 75% are Catholic if not more. (based on what I’ve seen here at CAF)
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Well, I wasn’t officially speaking 4 the Church when i said this. Its just that it makes sense - Mary has been called the new Ark of the Covenant - she carried Jesus in her body. The Church keeps Jesus in her tabernacles the same way as God’s presence was in the original Ark … Mary represents t he Church, right?? It seems all logical to me… but i defer to the Church’s official tachings on the subject…This is the first time I that I have heard of the church being the “Ark of the Covenant”… Do you have references that refer the CHURCH as the “Ark of the Covenant”??
I’ve seen and read plenty that refers to MARY being the NEW Ark of the Covenant.
Example: Mary, the Ark of the New Covenant
I’ve seen and read plenty that refers to the CHURCH as the BRIDE of Christ.
Example: Second Ecumenical Council of Nicaea (787)
That said, i know that those who attack the Church do not fare very well (the ones i’ve known…). :ehh:
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contramundum7
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Its kind of interesting to think about - Mary is considered our mother. The Church is called Mother Church…Thanks for taking the time to clear that up for me…
God Bless
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contramundum7
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How do you interpret John 20:19? Jesus said these words to His Apostles, not all his followers…Thanks though deb, you seem very sweet and whether we disagree or not, I do thank you for your concern and kind thoughts!
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goitalone
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LOL she secretly changed her email yesterday
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Maria1212
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Dear Goitalone,Thanks for the kind words Maria…the world could use more loving comments and concern as you have provided here.
Thank you very much and blessings to you as well.
Thank you as well for your warm words of thanks. If I did you any good, it was the Lord working through me. Believe me, left to my own devices, I just drown in sin!
I thought of you today as I was reading a book called Healing the Original Wound by Fr. Benedict J. Groeschel. After the Bible, this book, and another book called Arise From Darkness (also by Groeschel) have helped me grow spiritually, more than anything I have ever read. Even though Groeschel is Catholic, his books are applicable to all Catholics, particularly American Catholics and Adventists. The reason I say this, is although Americans tend to often think of the United States as a Christian country, our society is very hostile toward those who strive the Christian life. It seems the more we struggle to live Jesus`s teachings, the more we are mocked by those who do not understand us. Those who peacefully protest outside abortion clinics because they oppose the murder of unborn babies are often arrested. Those who struggle to live chaste lives (whether single or married) are often teased for not being more “liberated.”
As an Adventist, I am sure you have met more than a fair share of people who are disrespectful of your beliefs, and who perhaps make fun of you because your beliefs are different. Sadly, you may have even experienced this at CAF. Catholics and Adventists are both often ridiculed, often for things they believe in, and often due to myths and misperceptions about their beliefs. So this, we have in common. I agree with you fully, that you should worship on the day you feel called to. As Catholics we are blessed with the opportunity to attend Mass every day. I know Adventists often attend church meetings during the week. I only wish all Christians would choose to put God first every day.
The reason I thought of you today, is because in the chapter of the book I mentioned above that I was reading today, Groeschel reminds us that in this life, as we strive to live the Christian life fully, we are never finally something, we are never stuck, we are always growing. It may not seem that way sometimes, but we can all call ourselves “recovering sinners” striving to live the lives of saints. Whether you believe the people we call saints are alive in heaven or not, or whether you choose to ask them to join you in prayer or not, you can still learn a lot by them. Saints were sinners, just like we all are. But they serve as role models who shared in the same struggle and fight we battle now, to remain faithful to God and to live his Gospel. Their faith, hope,charity, and love, for, and in the Lord, gave them the grace to to remain true to their Christian beliefs and this often cost them their life. In fact, all martyrs and saints were not necessarily Catholic! In Japan, there were lots of Christians, Catholic, and nonCatholic alike, who were executed in horrible ways, during the time when Christianity was illegal.
We all need to encourage each other and pray for each other, Catholic and Adventist, and Protestant alike. We all have a lot to learn from each other. Yes, we should teach others what we believe and why, while listening to what they have to say with an open mind and heart. Both “sides” will learn something when this is done with love and charity. Learning about other Christians, and how they chose (and choose) to practice and celebrate their faith, is something we can all learn from. That is why so many Catholics are in the “non-Catholic” religious forum. And non-Catholics need not fear us. All we can do is explain what we believe and why, it is the Holy Spirit that does the rest!
I really hope you will check out the two books I mentioned Goitalone. Your local library might have them, but if not, they are very inexpensive. While he writes from a Catholic prospective, his message is for all Christians.
But again, when the doubt creeps in, or when others are not treating you as Christ calls us to treat our brothers and sisters (whether in your own church or somewhere else), please remember you are not alone. We are here for you, and for each other 24 hours a day! (God bless the internet, literally!).
I hope others will find Groeschel`s books as useful as I have. Once you start reading, you can not put them down!!
Sincerely,
Maria1212
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goitalone
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Aww, yer the sweetest
Now if only I could find a wondferful wife with such loving, thoughtful gestures as you, lol !
Thanks alot…it really helps hearing kind words like that from someone…especially from someone you don’t even reallyt know well.
I aplogize for not to writing a whole lot back in my reply , but I get pretty stessed while typing, it’s not one of my favorite things in the world
Thanks telling me/us about the books, I will have to try and read them sometime.
God bless you Maria!
Tons of love,
Charlie (er, goitalone)
Now if only I could find a wondferful wife with such loving, thoughtful gestures as you, lol !
Thanks alot…it really helps hearing kind words like that from someone…especially from someone you don’t even reallyt know well.
I aplogize for not to writing a whole lot back in my reply , but I get pretty stessed while typing, it’s not one of my favorite things in the world
Thanks telling me/us about the books, I will have to try and read them sometime.
God bless you Maria!
Tons of love,
Charlie (er, goitalone)
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ASimpleSinner
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Charlie,Aww, yer the sweetest
Now if only I could find a wondferful wife with such loving, thoughtful gestures as you, lol !
Thanks alot…it really helps hearing kind words like that from someone…especially from someone you don’t even reallyt know well.
I aplogize for not to writing a whole lot back in my reply , but I get pretty stessed while typing, it’s not one of my favorite things in the world
Thanks telling me/us about the books, I will have to try and read them sometime.
God bless you Maria!
Tons of love,
Charlie (er, goitalone)
That is interesting how different people have different approaches to things like being on forums. At the end of my work day, I am always excited to hvae my “blogging time”. It helps me unwind.
It is easy for me to forget some people don’t like to write as much. (That is just me… I don’t listen to music in the car EVER.)
How are things going?
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goitalone
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Things aren’t going too bad I guess other than my ruptured disc is stressing me out today pretty good lol.
That is one main reason I cannot type long…the other main reason is I cannot type unless I look at the keys must look over the keyboard (usually pretty much in the dark with a small bit of lamp light) and it makes the whole body stress out on me as it effects all the muscles from the lower back all the way up to my neck and shoulders (mostly on my right side) with severe strains of tension, and I sometimes it gets tot he point where I just cant sit any longer and have to go lay down. Chiropractor said its degenerative arthritis
yay!
It’s so bad I actually signed up for disability.
Hope everything is going well for you.
That is one main reason I cannot type long…the other main reason is I cannot type unless I look at the keys must look over the keyboard (usually pretty much in the dark with a small bit of lamp light) and it makes the whole body stress out on me as it effects all the muscles from the lower back all the way up to my neck and shoulders (mostly on my right side) with severe strains of tension, and I sometimes it gets tot he point where I just cant sit any longer and have to go lay down. Chiropractor said its degenerative arthritis
yay!It’s so bad I actually signed up for disability.
Hope everything is going well for you.
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Maria1212
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Dear Charles (Goitalone),Things aren’t going too bad I guess other than my ruptured disc is stressing me out today pretty good lol.
That is one main reason I cannot type long…the other main reason is I cannot type unless I look at the keys must look over the keyboard (usually pretty much in the dark with a small bit of lamp light) and it makes the whole body stress out on me as it effects all the muscles from the lower back all the way up to my neck and shoulders (mostly on my right side) with severe strains of tension, and I sometimes it gets tot he point where I just cant sit any longer and have to go lay down. Chiropractor said its degenerative arthritis
It’s so bad I actually signed up for disability.
Hope everything is going well for you.
I am sorry to hear you are in so much pain. The book I mentioned the other day (Arise from Darkness) has a lot of good prayers for those times whem we are in deep pain and for when we battle despair. Please do not let anyone make you feel that you are any less productive because you are not “working” while you try to mange your pain and heal yourself. If you use time to devote more time to prayer, you will be much more productive than most people are while at work! Job 3:2-6 and 20-26 always helps me when I feel down because it reminds me I am not alone in my daily battles. St. Francis of Assisi is one of the saints whose life I enjoy studying. He wrote a prayer called “Most High, Glorious God.” It goes:
Most high, glorious God, lighten the darkness of my heart and grant me, Lord, a correct faith, a certain hope, a perfect charity, and a sense of knowledge., so that I may carry out Your holy and true command."
I hope this prayer helps you too. As with most people, I talk directly to God in my own words when I pray. But sometimes, I find that the prayers of others (or “memorized prayers” ) help me a lot when I cannot find the words I seek.
I will keep praying for you. Chronic pain can be debilitating and really drag one`s spirits down. Even when you might not “feel like God is listening”, He is, so please keep on praying! I write these words as much for you, as I do for myself. I have discovered that my own feelings, make a very poor “navigational system” for my spiritual life.
Take care. Please feel free to PM me anytime you need/would like to talk.
Sincerely,
Maria1212
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goitalone
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Thanks Maria, I appreciate it!
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contramundum7
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I went through some very painful things several years ago.Things aren’t going too bad I guess other than my ruptured disc is stressing me out today pretty good lol.
That is one main reason I cannot type long…the other main reason is I cannot type unless I look at the keys must look over the keyboard (usually pretty much in the dark with a small bit of lamp light) and it makes the whole body stress out on me as it effects all the muscles from the lower back all the way up to my neck and shoulders (mostly on my right side) with severe strains of tension, and I sometimes it gets tot he point where I just cant sit any longer and have to go lay down. Chiropractor said its degenerative arthritis
It’s so bad I actually signed up for disability.
Hope everything is going well for you.
i began to pray the rosary. The sorrowful mysteries were particularly powerful because in them, i began to see the parallels between my terrible sufferings and those of Christ on the Cross (and before he was crucified, in the Garden…). Physical pain - no, any kind of pain can help us to realize more clearly what Jesus went through and when we do that, it draws us closer to Him.
You are never really close to a person until and unless you have walked at least a mile in his or her shoes…
God bless…
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contramundum7
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I definitely don’t want to give you false hope, but i heard that this natural “remedy” can help alleviate arthritis pain. I’ve heard from several different places that it works: Soak yellow raisins in gin and when the gin evaporates, eat 9 of the raisins a day. I hve never tried it because i don’t have arthritis… so i can’t say it will help you… but anyway, just thought i would share this… God bless…Things aren’t going too bad I guess other than my ruptured disc is stressing me out today pretty good lol.
That is one main reason I cannot type long…the other main reason is I cannot type unless I look at the keys must look over the keyboard (usually pretty much in the dark with a small bit of lamp light) and it makes the whole body stress out on me as it effects all the muscles from the lower back all the way up to my neck and shoulders (mostly on my right side) with severe strains of tension, and I sometimes it gets tot he point where I just cant sit any longer and have to go lay down. Chiropractor said its degenerative arthritis
It’s so bad I actually signed up for disability.
Hope everything is going well for you.
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