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Bernadettev1979
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Some of the greatest saints were former prostitutes, and Christian killers. Can’t believe one would use that for their own purpose.
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Bernadettev1979
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Clearly u r completely consumed by this and closed to hearing any opposition of it no matter how much sense it makes which is a big red flag, so there is no sense in anymore discussion on the matter.
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JimR-OCDS
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Actually, I’ve read her articles. They’re full of false accusations and misleading information as she takes bits and pieces of what others say out of context. It’s fundamentalists ideology she follows not Catholic teaching, especially on contemplative prayer.
She’s been a reverted Catholic for just over 10 years, after being involved with her brand of the New Age Movement, which she claims nearly destroyed her. Suddenly she returned to the Church and became an expert on Contemplative Prayer and Catholic Mysticism and attacks those who are ?
She writes accusations against people in her website, many of them misleading and taken out of context and I’m not talking about Oprah here, although she should not have attacked her either.
Follow her if you wish, but when the truth is revealed to you that what she has taught you is false, what will you do then ?
I’ll follow the spiritual leaders of the Catholic Church, whom the Pope’s have asked to teach the people about prayer.
Centered In Jesus Christ
Jim
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Bernadettev1979
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Eckhart tolle is most definetly not a spiritual leader of the Catholic Church. As I said it is best to stick to what and who we know to be true which are the saints that Jesus gave us to guide us through prayer and our spirituality. I was reading on St. Teresa of Avila last night and she talks on contemplative prayer and speaks of our souls as a mansion with many rooms. The mansion is contained so to speak in a crystal. The very center of this mansion is the chambers of which you and God meet. She will teach you how to pray so as to bring you into a meditation where u can meet God at the center of your soul. I consider her and other saints who teach on such things an invaluable source from which to draw this information from and gain so much more at the same time from these great doctors of the church. You are sure of never being led in the wrong direction at least. Satin as she tells us is at every turn along the way but never more than when we are turkey trying to fill low Christ so it is at best to have a sure guiding hand to lead you in the right direction to Our Lord.
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Bernadettev1979
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If I have offended u in any way by what I have said, then I apologize. My zeal to defend Our Lord sometimes carries me away and I say things I should not. When we venture out of the sources which God gave us through his Saints to learn and practice such things, there is a real danger. And it shows by the shape so many souls are in from being led so much away from God through such people claiming to be experts on spirituality. Suffering and sacrifice in someone for the sake of Our Lord are the real proofs that they are working for God. Jesus shows us this in the cross. The great deceiver is deceiving so many who really love God and want to do his will by these so called spiritual teachers
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JimR-OCDS
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Bernadettev
Glad to see you found St Teresa of Avila.
My wife and myself are professed Secular Order Discalced Carmelites, and studied St Teresa and St John of the Cross for many years.
See the Catholic Encyclopedia for “Prayer of Quiet.”
Centered In Christ
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Glad to see you found St Teresa of Avila.
My wife and myself are professed Secular Order Discalced Carmelites, and studied St Teresa and St John of the Cross for many years.
And being at the center of your being in the presence of God is the very essence of intention in Centering Prayer. In fact, St John of the Cross, in the Living Flame of Love, teaches us that God is at the center and it’s from this book, where the term “Centering Prayer,” came from. Before that, it was called “Quiet Prayer,” or “Prayer of Quiet.”
See the Catholic Encyclopedia for “Prayer of Quiet.”
Centered In Christ
Jim
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JimR-OCDS
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No need to apologize, I’m not offended.
The problem with this train of thought is that God doesn’t need your defense, we need His.
Also, don’t define God in narrow terms. God is beyond our understanding and He reveals himself to us in various ways and will met us where we’re at, even when we’re not Catholic.
God calls, we follow, regardless who we are or how we pray to Him.
There are people who follow a spirituality which is not Christ Centered, but their search for truth doesn’t stop God from revealing it to them, however limited it may be.
We are blessed with the gift of faith in Jesus Christ who reveals the fullness of truth and that gift is one of love. When we have tasted His divine love, we begin to take on his characteristics, which is love. We love others and listen to them, even when they are not Catholic. If what they say is true, we will know because the Holy Spirit has given us truth and it can not be contradicted. If it is false, we’ll also know as well, because it will contradict the truth we have been given in Jesus Christ.
I have no doubt, that Jesus protects those who love and trust in Him.
In Christ
Jim
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