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Netflix’s “Cuties” Is So Much Worse Than We Thought and the Leftist Media Still Defends It
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ThinkingSapien
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Possibly a duplicate thread ( ? )
Republicans call on DOJ to investigate Netflix over 'Cuties' film World News
Though, wondering if this will result in more attention and scrutiny being placed on content that adolescents upload to social media. YouTube once ran into problems with kids uploading their gymnastics routines and creepy (presumably men) making comments on them.
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Rockoh22
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oh, I never heard of that one. So, Youtube blocked content?
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ThinkingSapien
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Kind of, but that might be an oversimplification of the response. This has been an ongoing cat-and-mouse game where YouTube adapts, but so do the creepy dudes. When I last heard, videos that predominantly feature children may be automatically flagged as ineligible for comment, advertisements, or the recommendation algorithm (that’s not a hard rule, the actual is more complex).
Old article, but here is one of the problems they had in 2019.
That said, people upload their own dance routines to social media all the time. Kids see adults uploading videos dancing to music, kids do the same. Some of these routines are undeniably sexual.
In general, I am a proponent of kids not being on or having access to social media. But I don’t think that will happen.
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Also this is relevant too possibly . . .
FBI Raids Home of Netflix Star and Biden Surrogate Over Underage Sex Allegation World News
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ThinkingSapien . . .
How can you enforce that without obtaining biometric data? How would it be enforced? What kind of penalties for violations? What are the exceptions (i.e. parents watching a cartoon on YouTube with their kids)?
I think that is worth considering TS and is a great insight. (I posted a “like” based on it even).
How can you enforce that without obtaining biometric data? How would it be enforced? What kind of penalties for violations? What are the exceptions (i.e. parents watching a cartoon on YouTube with their kids)?
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WingedHussar
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Disgusting, enabling pedophilia should be a criminal offense.
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Regular_Atheist
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I recently found out that the film is French. I think the French particularly have an issue with paedophilia in their culture. They only recently got an adequate age of consent law, which (off the top of my head) was necessitated by the fact that some adult men got away with sleeping with an 11 year old due to problems with their laws in regards to statutory rape.
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Netflix also has a documentary on the effects of the Internet/apps/social media on people that expressed concern for younger minds (no 11-year old twerking girls in this one). At the end of the documentary, someone suggested just keeping kids off of social media until they are 16.
The documentary is titled “The Social Delima.”
“These technology products were not designed by child psychologists who are trying to protect and nurture children,” says Tristan Harris — a former Google design ethicist and the cofounder of the Center For Humane Technology — in the film.
He notes that social media can negatively impact children’s mental health. “It’s not just that it’s controlling where they spend their attention,” he explains. “Especially social media starts to dig deeper and deeper down into the brain stem and take over kids’ sense of self-worth and identity.”
According to the documentary, there are also alarming statistics to back up this concept. After all, anyone with an online profile knows how fleeting that happy sensation — or “fake, brittle popularity,” as Chamath Palihapitiya, Facebook’s former VP of growth, calls it — feels when you get likes on an Instagram post.
Social psychologist Jonathan Haidt, PhD, a professor at the NYU Stern School of Business, explains that the damning effect social media has on young adults is palpable.
“There has been a gigantic increase in depression and anxiety for American teenagers which began right between 2011 and 2013,” he says. “The number of teenage girls out of 100,000 in this country who were admitted to a hospital every year because they’ve cut themselves or otherwise harmed themselves . . . was pretty stable until around 2010, 2011, and then it [began to go] way up.”
According to the documentary, the amount of United States hospital admissions for nonfatal self-harm has gone up by 62 percent for girls between the ages of 15 and 19. For girls who fall into the 10 to 14 age range, the figure has increased by 189 percent since social media became mainstream.
Experts are seeing the same trend with suicide rates. Suicides in teen girls between the ages of 15 and 19 have increased by 70 percent compared to the first decade of the century. The suicide rate of preteen girls (between the ages of 10 and 14) has increased by 151 percent in the same time frame, according to Dr. Haidt. Although experts can’t say that social media, specifically, has caused these alarming trends, the correlation is unsettling.
The documentary is titled “The Social Delima.”
Social Media Can Negatively Affect Kids’ Self-Worth
One of the most disturbing elements of The Social Dilemma is just how much regularly using smartphones can negatively affect a kid’s self-worth.“These technology products were not designed by child psychologists who are trying to protect and nurture children,” says Tristan Harris — a former Google design ethicist and the cofounder of the Center For Humane Technology — in the film.
He notes that social media can negatively impact children’s mental health. “It’s not just that it’s controlling where they spend their attention,” he explains. “Especially social media starts to dig deeper and deeper down into the brain stem and take over kids’ sense of self-worth and identity.”
According to the documentary, there are also alarming statistics to back up this concept. After all, anyone with an online profile knows how fleeting that happy sensation — or “fake, brittle popularity,” as Chamath Palihapitiya, Facebook’s former VP of growth, calls it — feels when you get likes on an Instagram post.
Social psychologist Jonathan Haidt, PhD, a professor at the NYU Stern School of Business, explains that the damning effect social media has on young adults is palpable.
“There has been a gigantic increase in depression and anxiety for American teenagers which began right between 2011 and 2013,” he says. “The number of teenage girls out of 100,000 in this country who were admitted to a hospital every year because they’ve cut themselves or otherwise harmed themselves . . . was pretty stable until around 2010, 2011, and then it [began to go] way up.”
According to the documentary, the amount of United States hospital admissions for nonfatal self-harm has gone up by 62 percent for girls between the ages of 15 and 19. For girls who fall into the 10 to 14 age range, the figure has increased by 189 percent since social media became mainstream.
Experts are seeing the same trend with suicide rates. Suicides in teen girls between the ages of 15 and 19 have increased by 70 percent compared to the first decade of the century. The suicide rate of preteen girls (between the ages of 10 and 14) has increased by 151 percent in the same time frame, according to Dr. Haidt. Although experts can’t say that social media, specifically, has caused these alarming trends, the correlation is unsettling.
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I doubt anyone on this thread that is criticizing it have actually watched to formulate their own opinion.
Do you know what your own 11/12 year old child/grandchild does in the privacy of their own bedroom? Unless your child/grandchild is a tomboy interested only in softball like mine, than you might be alarmed what you might discover what they do in their bedroom behind closed doors or at slumber parties.
But the reviews are equally bad and good.
Here are some against the critics.
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Do you know what your own 11/12 year old child/grandchild does in the privacy of their own bedroom? Unless your child/grandchild is a tomboy interested only in softball like mine, than you might be alarmed what you might discover what they do in their bedroom behind closed doors or at slumber parties.
Could not find proof of this.
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Here are some against the critics.
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ThinkingSapien
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Sigh, I’ve got some uncomfortable insight into that. A friend of mine that is not good with computers wanted me to monitor her child’s internet activity. I did so (with the child’s knowledge) with a clear criteria on what type of matters to alert the parent about. The discussions and concerns of children below the age of 13 are not necessarily PG-13.
There was a discussion of what a classmate had done. One girl at school took a picture of a part of her body and sent it to a boy on snap chat. She believed since the picture was self-deleting it was safe. The boy took a screenshot and shared it with his friends. Basically, these were children that were involved in the production of CP (a felony offense) and the distribution of CP (also a felony offense). But such occurrences were common. Some have made the news.
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RidgeSprinter . . .
You don’t have to be in an airplane accident to realize nobody should go there if possible.
It is a poorly reasoned “argument”.
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RidgeSprinter again . . .
I am not going to support child pornography.
Irrespective of you, it is disappointing to see people coming out in support or even expressing neutrality regarding “cuties”.
It is irrelevant.
You don’t have to be in an airplane accident to realize nobody should go there if possible.
It is a poorly reasoned “argument”.
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RidgeSprinter again . . .
You attempting to personalize this with me is inappropriate.
I am not going to support child pornography.
Irrespective of you, it is disappointing to see people coming out in support or even expressing neutrality regarding “cuties”.
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OraLabora
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I think your argument is irrelevant. You’re comparing objective facts (plane down, Y injured, X fatalities) with the subjective evaluation of others who may, or may not, have seen it.
The trashing of the film by those who haven’t seen it is like saying to someone his sister is ugly, without ever having seen her or even a photo of her, just because of something she said or did.
From what I’ve read of the film, it was intended to shock, not titillate, and was a semi-autobiographical portrayal of the Senegalese producer’s life when she was approximately the same age, and the clash of cultures she experienced between the very liberal West and her conservative Senegalese Muslim upbringing.
Pornography is of course in the eye of the beholder… especially when no graphic nudity or sex is involved.
It’s not on my “must watch” list by any stretch, but I’m not going give in to herd mentality either, by trashing it just because of what others say.
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OraLabora . . .
You don’t have to see the movie to condemn it.
I am disapoointed you would attempt to make such an argument.
You are wrong.
OraLabora . . .
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OraLabora . . .
I’ll bet a lot if child pornographers use that excuse to the police OraLabora.
Sure.
No it isn’t. You can read and see enough for yourself without seeing child porn. (You equivocated my airplane accident example too. This is fallacious argumentation by you here.)
You don’t have to see the movie to condemn it.
I am disapoointed you would attempt to make such an argument.
You are wrong.
OraLabora . . .
I am not interested in what the pornographers proclaim their intentions to be.
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OraLabora . . .
Sure.
I’ll bet a lot if child pornographers use that excuse to the police OraLabora.
Sure.
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It is of course false. And offensive.
Yes.
We had already an legal age of sexual majority, that is 15 years old.
Sadly some court had judged that some men who had slept with 11 years old girls were not guilty of rape because there were no coercicion, the girls didn’t said no or defend themselves, there were no violence or surprise.
As there was a judirical emptiness and polemic, the government thank of creating an age of automatical presumed “non- consentment”, but it was abandonned because there would have risks of being non constitutional. (for eg, a 18 years old sleeping with his 14 years old girlfriend would be considered as a rapist and jailed).
So the governement voted for a law against sexual and sexist violences. A underage person until 15 years old is now considered as a vulnerable one who is not able to discern thoses acts, so it is coercicion or surprise.
To note, the filmaker had said in interviews she was shocked by these ruling and that the children cannot be responsible of these acts. That’s what she wants to show in her movie. That was before the international polemic.
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From Breitbart . . . .
Parenthetical and stars mine.
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Cathoholic
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Breitbart in the above story appropriately jumbled the child photos (in the inappropriate areas where they should never have been filmed against these children anyway).
I purposefully did not link the above because in my opinion, I did not want even those blurred-out photos appearing here on CAF even in the photos from the LINK.
Never-the-less, with the story quoted, you can easily duckduckgo it, and see for yourself if you are so inclined.
See if I am right or
see if the defenders of this shenanigans are right.
See what the defenders are defending.
Draw your own conclusions.
It is pretty easy to draw the correct conclusions that the people doing this movie should be jailed for abusing these children for those that see it and are honest.
I purposefully did not link the above because in my opinion, I did not want even those blurred-out photos appearing here on CAF even in the photos from the LINK.
Never-the-less, with the story quoted, you can easily duckduckgo it, and see for yourself if you are so inclined.
See if I am right or
see if the defenders of this shenanigans are right.
See what the defenders are defending.
Draw your own conclusions.
It is pretty easy to draw the correct conclusions that the people doing this movie should be jailed for abusing these children for those that see it and are honest.
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Reminds me of those comics featuring grisly crime stories, that ended with the last panel showing the perps getting arrested. Were people really reading those comics for the last panel or for all the gore that made up the other 95% of the comic?
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To the readers here:
I mentioned:
Of course that “logic” is wrong.
OraLabora. I want to invite you to go the the pictures and article from the link that I posted here, duckduckgo it.
Just put in duckduckgo . . .
Go to the Breitbart site duckduckgo gives you.
Look at the direct “Cutie” screenshots for yourselves and read the article for yourself to contextualize it.
Then come back here and defend “Cuties” if you think that is so potentially worthy of defense.
(That is, if you really mean what you said.)
I will be waiting.
I mentioned:
OraLabora’s retort was . . . .
Using that “logic” you just never know if being in a plane accident is good, bad, or neutral.
Of course that “logic” is wrong.
OraLabora. I want to invite you to go the the pictures and article from the link that I posted here, duckduckgo it.
Just put in duckduckgo . . .
“Nolte: Elite Media Defend ‘Cuties’ While Covering Up Most Salacious Content from Readers”
It will come up first (I just checked it).Go to the Breitbart site duckduckgo gives you.
Look at the direct “Cutie” screenshots for yourselves and read the article for yourself to contextualize it.
Then come back here and defend “Cuties” if you think that is so potentially worthy of defense.
(That is, if you really mean what you said.)
I will be waiting.
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