harveyc:
Taken from the
other thread that has been closed by the Forum Admin.
What do you mean??? Where do you get that idea from? Please read about
this Eucharistic miracle for some background info. The link isn’t a web site of mine, though I was in Santerem last fall.
Having spent the ENTIRE DAY and now crossing 5 threads on this subject, I will provide you with what I mean, then will take a little break from the topic at hand.
First off, the guy said the host is BLESSED, as well as the Bible it is in. It doesn’t appear to be consecrated. No Jesus at any point in time.
Second, the longer and more complex issue of if it were consecrated delves into transubstantiation, and the substance of the host as well as the accidents. The accidents is what it APPEARS to be (bread) while the SUBSTANCE is what it is (Jesus). Transubstantiation is the changing of the substance. The Eucharist is the only thing we know of that changes substance without also changing accidents. However, once the accidents are deteriorated or gone, so is the substance. What this means is once the host (for instance) is digested, you don’t have Jesus swimming around in your bowels. Once it is old and stale, Jesus is not old and stale inside. This same process applies now, if the host is in fact consecrated and not merely blessed. There were plenty of articles by Catholic apologists and clergy on this when the Knights of Columbus guy purchased a host on eBay.
Third, there is a canon or some such that I am far too exhausted to look up concerning the sin of taking communion in a state of mortal sin or for purposes less than noble.
Fourth, even if against all odds, this were a consecrated host with all the accidents and substance in tact, we do not want to make a regular practice of giving publicity to these theives or allowing them to extort thousands of dollars from us. The supply will be endless. There is no way of seeing if it is true. The best way to handle it is to quietly take them down one by one, which is easier this go 'round as eBay has assured us if we notify them they will pull the auction. I was happy to lend my time and talents to bringing this about as I do consider it most heinous, as you can see by my post history.
grammyof3:
Fifth, I think there are much bigger fish in the sea to aim your harpoon at than little ol’ me, one of the few remaining Catholics who are faithful to the Magesterium. Thankfully, so many of them visit here, which is why I love to be here. I don’t think you’ve gone about things in the wisest way of attracting
support for your cause by beligerent speech, excessive simultaneous cross-posting, and being mean to one of the very few (as you pointed out) who was willing to help. I, for one, am close now to the point of your previous reference to apathy. For the good of all involved, I will say a prayer for your success, then go back to such nonsensical topics as Ziploc Bags for the evening. Might check out the Laser Hair Removal thread. Heard it from a reliable source that it is hoppin’.
