New inquisition?

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The Church has neither the time, financial means nor the desire to do what you suggest.

This is a rather bizarre idea. Where did this come from?
 
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If nothing else, this would prevent the vast amounts of host desecration which goes on in every parish by people recieving communion in a state of mortal sin.
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I lack the ability to discern the state of sin when people are in communion line. Maybe its because I am busy leading the “contemporary music.” But I will say this thread has been revealing.

I think a distinction needs to be made between Catholics who are active Catholics and those who bear the title on surveys and polls, while being inactive except Christmas, Easter and Ash Wednesday, when they have nothing better going on.
 
From this “news:”
However, the report itself urges readers to be careful with the data, saying “small sample sizes mean caution should be used when looking at figures for the Roman Catholic group in 2012 and 2016”.

The total number of Catholics surveyed is 260, compared to 442 Anglicans and 1,551 of no religion.

Meanwhile, the definition of “Catholic” is also based on respondents who choose to describe themselves as such,
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whyeyeman said:
is a new inquisition necessary amongst the Catholic faithful?
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Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition a.k.a. Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Holy Office, now known as the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

The Holy Office never went anywhere. You are vastly confused regarding what the Holy Office was, how it operated, and how it still operates today if you believe it to have been an office that posted people outside church doors doing some kind of sin test.
 
The death penalty teaching is not influencing people’s attendance at Mass. I don’t know a single one who has told me in 50 years they quit attending Mass or left the Church over the death penalty. Nor have I read anything suggesting this.

Also, having an inquisition is not going to cause people in France to go back to church.

To the extent the Church has problems, your approach makes no sense. It’s like a guy came into the operating room with the flu and your proposal to cure him is to amputate his leg.
 
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But that would make all the broad-gaters feel unwelcome!!!

I wish we had a theocratic state that would engage in a little inquisition.
 
We have confession for telling people if they are in sin or not. In addition, if you feel you are aware of someone’s state of sin, you can feel free to tell them yourself. They are equally free to tell you to mind your own business. If you then wish to tell your pastor that so and so is committing a sin, I’m sure he can handle it, perhaps by also telling you to look to your own sins and mind your own business.

In addition, if church attendance is down to a wee percent, sounds like lots of likely sinners have already opted themselves out, so the “problem” of sinners receiving sacraments is taking care of itself. We’re all sinners anyway, so perhaps we should all leave before we are thrown out…oh wait, I forgot about that little Divine Mercy thing…
 
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an office that posted people outside church doors doing some kind of sin test.
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This sounds like the new international security procedures for flights to the USA where some person stands in the check-in line and asks you 20 questions about where you’ve been and what did you see and did you pack your own bags.

Perhaps the Church could automate the process with a touch screen kiosk. You must score at least 80 percent on the quiz to be allowed inside.
 
I feel that if the church was more aggressive in defending it’s teachings against the immensely hostile modern world, and would embrace it’s traditions rather than quiver at them, it would be much more attractive to converts.
 
That doesn’t mean it is not a bad thing. Church doctrines cannot be changed. Pope Francis doesn’t seem to understand this. In my opinion, wether or not it effects mass attendance, this is a terrible thing.
Next time you are trying to convince someone about the truth of the Catholic church, you will inevitably tell them that the Catholic church holds the entire unchanging truth. What can you say when they ask: " How come the Pope changed th teaching on the death penalty, then?"
 
We are taught by the church to hate sin. Heresy is a very grave sin. I don’t feel you’re mocking of the subject is in this spirit.
 
I am sure there are rad Trads who would agree with you, however I think such an approach is likely to work for a small group of zealots looking for bright line rules while alienating the vast majority of people who are just muddling through.
 
And I have repeatedly laughed at them and responded:
  1. that they have betrayed their true belief that Islam and Christianity are equivalent.
  2. they have condemned the vast majority of Saints, Popes, most (if not all) of the Church fathers, the vast majority of theologians, Biblical history and teaching, and about 1800 to 1900 years of Christian history… All based on a secular, non-Biblical ideal.
  3. they have yet to provide a rational argument based on either Scripture or Tradition for their position.
 
That has always been the ideal as taught by the Catholic church throughout the centuries. A theocratic monarchy is the only governmental system approved by God in the entire Bible. I couldn’t agree with you more, my friend.
 
Catholics must be traditionalists. This is part of the faith. Do we not, after all, get lots of our doctrines from “sacred Tradition”?

"Tradition is the living river that links us to the origins, the living river in which the origins are ever present, the great river that leads us to the gates of eternity. " - Pope Benedict XVI
 
whyeyeman said:
Next time you are trying to convince someone about the truth of the Catholic church, you will inevitably tell them that the Catholic church holds the entire unchanging truth. What can you say when they ask: " How come the Pope changed th teaching on the death penalty, then?"
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I don’t generally tell people the Church has the entire unchanging truth because unless they are already inclined to believe that, it’s not persuasive to them, so I do not get into arguments about the Pope changing this or that. YMMV
 
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