New SOLT Statement re: Father Corapi

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That may be the case, but why is it impossible that SOLT’s June 20th statement did not let on as much as they knew? I don’t see why it should de facto be ruled out.
Because out of the whole mess, the SOLT is the only party that I have not caught being less then truthful.

I tend to believe people until they give me reason to doubt them.
 
Okay the prostitute reference is in the lawsuit and the letter to the bishops, so it is public information (see other thread).
 
This being true, I was almost offended that SOLT published the fact that this so called live in of Fr’s was a former Prostitute. Not only is his reputation being aired in public (and maybe rightfully so but, ???) but this woman (and I’m sure if you wanted to you could find out who this woman is) has been on public display for her indiscretions, made public by SOLT. MHO? That should NEVER have happened. It wasn’t at all necessary to get the point across. VERY TACKY and JUST PLAIN WRONG.
I think there was a reason for this, and it’s included in the line “known to him, when the relationship began, as a prostitute.” That’s more than just ‘it was her former occupation’ but ‘it was in that capacity that he first met her.’
 
I can only say that I am very disappointed. If these statements are true, then it appears that Fr. Corapi has relapsed into his former lifestyle.

I would think that by making a public statement with such serious allegations, SOLT must have the proof to back it up, as Father (for now) Corapi has proven that he isn’t shy about suing. I would also hope that SOLT tried to talk to him privately, and get him to correct any public “misstatements” before taking such a step in making their findings public.

There are many things that can be learned from this: Don’t let the messenger spoil the message; even a sinner can accomplish a lot of good; etc. We can only pray that his eyes are opened, that he returns to the Priesthood and his Order, and repents. The Holy Spirit and the Blessed Mother led him onto the right path before - we should all pray for their intercession in leading him back onto the right path and away from sin once again.
 
Was that inappropriate? And what did Father Corapi do in the meantime? I believe he was the first to discuss the nature of the allegations, which places SOLT in the position of responding to them.
I never said it wasn’t inappropriate. I mentioned it because people are acting like it was only Father Corapi that publicized the situation. I don’t blame him for discussing the allegations first. It’s better for him to get out the first word and inform people about what is going on than to let SOLT and gossipers do all the talking.
Quite the contrary, they have done so. They have made very few statements and those with great charity toward Father Corapi and his good name.
Father Sheehan’s latest statement is not charitable and it sullies Father Corapi’s name.
Unfortunately, Father Corapi has not done the same. His accusations against his Archbishop are nothing short of scandalous.
Do you only care about keeping up appearances,or do you care about whether the accusations are true?
His disobedience is unacceptable as well.
So far,he has not been disobedient. He has accepted his suspension from public ministry.
He was not ordered to return to the regional office of SOLT and drop the lawsuit against his accuser until two days ago.
The promise of obedience to the bishop is as binding as the promise of celibacy.
How did he disobey the bishop? What order did the bishop give him?
 
I never said it wasn’t inappropriate. I mentioned it because people are acting like it was only Father Corapi that publicized the situation. I don’t blame him for discussing the allegations first. It’s better for him to get out the first word and inform people about what is going on than to let SOLT and gossipers do all the talking.

Father Sheehan’s latest statement is not charitable and it sullies his name.

Do you only care about keeping up appearances,or do you care about whether the accusations are true?

So far,he has not been disobedient. He has accepted his suspension from public ministry.
He was not ordered to return to the regional office of SOLT and drop the lawsuit against his accuser until two days ago.

How did he disobey the bishop?
In attacking the goodness and actions of the archbishop,
Fr. C has been less than obedient. There is no doubt regarding that.
 
Do you know that his accusers at SOLT are telling the truth? It would be more blind to believe them than to believe him,since we don’t know about them,but we do we know much about him.

They haven’t proven that he has been lying about anything. It would be more naive to believe what his accusers at SOLT say than what he says,since we have no experience of them. We don’t know their character.

Corapi’s listeners do not do that. They just love him because he teaches the truth,and they are loyal to him for that reason. Catholics should show loyalty to those who are loyal to the teachings of the Church. If we have a detatched,critical attitude towards them when they are accused of wrongdoing,we show ourselves to be untrustworthy in regard to our brethren in the faith and truth itself.
Look, I am not going to take the word of any former preacher over that of Holy Mother Church. Since SOLT is part of Holy Mother Church and their investigation has brought out these ugly new findings, I will always take the side of Holy Mother Church over a mere man.

There is a endless line of former preachers that have fallen from grace and have sinned greatly. This is not something new.

And I´d have to disagree with you in that certain followers of Corapi are putting him on a way too high of a pedestal as if he is God himself. I didn´t say all followers are doing this but in some of the posts I have seen defending Corapi it certainly comes across that way.

God bless
 
jimmyakin.org/
If you scroll down a bit there is a pod cast with Jimmy Akin on the Al Kresta radio show on Ave Maria radio that sheds some more light on the John Corapi situation especially once get about 1/2 into the broadcast including factual police records involving drunk driving and an alias John Corapi used when he met his accuser. Its amazing it took this long to come out.
 
Other than his having been misdiagnosed with heart blockages, all I see from his BSD website is this:

“Due to serious health problems suffered in 2008…” Nothing specific is mentioned and his lawsuit was back in 2002. I don’t know what that “health problem” might have been.
Let’s see.

In 2008, for a month I subscribed to his video service, It was a circa 10 minute video, sent to your e-mail. No outside links that I know.

He had an ailment that doctors could not diagnose. He went to the Mayo clinic,where they diagnosed a tumor on his parathyroid.

I know it was 2008, because I subscribed to it during a period of turmoil in myt own life, (miscarriage:()

I don’t have the link anymore…I’m sure others can recall this.
 
In attacking the goodness and actions of the archbishop,
Fr. C has been less than obedient. There is no doubt regarding that.
How do you know that the actions of the bishop were good?
Obedience does not mean that you can’t make accusations against your superiors.
That would be a prescription for the spread of heresy and corruption and tyranny.
 
Look, I am not going to take the word of any former preacher over that of Holy Mother Church. Since SOLT is part of Holy Mother Church and their investigation has brought out these ugly new findings, I will always take the side of Holy Mother Church over a mere man.

There is a endless line of former preachers that have fallen from grace and have sinned greatly. This is not something new.

And I´d have to disagree with you in that certain followers of Corapi are putting him on a way too high of a pedestal as if he is God himself. I didn´t say all followers are doing this but in some of the posts I have seen defending Corapi it certainly comes across that way.

God bless
I even saw one post on his website that quoted Jesus Christ on the cross, “Father, forgive them, they know not what they do!!!” :eek: You know you are dealing with a serious problem when someone compares a mere man, even a popular priest, to Jesus on the cross!!!
 
How do you know that the actions of the bishop were good?
Obedience does not mean that you can’t make accusations against your superiors.
That would be a prescription for the spread of heresy and corruption and tyranny.
Since the bishop and community of SOLT are in agreement,
that with proper authority over Fr. C. as over any other priest
of his status, that as of now, Fr. C’s actions are raising concern,
then I can only believe that the bishop’s actions are good.

As amny others have stated on this thread and earlier
threads, I will never take the word of a maverick priest
who is presenting accusations against a lawful bishop.

It’s that simple for me.

As for Fr. C., my own guess is that he has become mentally unstable.
 
Look, I am not going to take the word of any former preacher over that of Holy Mother Church. Since SOLT is part of Holy Mother Church and their investigation has brought out these ugly new findings,
Orders are a part of the Church, true. Orders have been sanctioned by the Vatican before too, recently the Legionnaires. I am not implying that SOLT is lying or anything like that. I don’t want people to think that orders like SOLT or individual bishops for that matter are not capable of making errors, lest when it does occur somewhere people don’t lose faith based on a false presumption of infallibility.
I will always take the side of Holy Mother Church over a mere man.
Again SOLT or an individual bishop is not the Holy Mother Church they are a part of the Church. Fallible Church officials have made bad choices in the past, it is possible (think abuse scandals of 10 years ago)
 
I find it hard to believe he will go forth with the suit. I can’t see him wanting to be deposed and have all of this drag out all the more.

Civil suits are very stressful. They go on forever. I have had family members go thru this a few times.
 
As for Fr. C., my own guess is that he has become mentally unstable.
We don’t know the full story. it’s a possible factor. But he still has a WILL , even though if it IS to mental illness, it is weakened.
I think it might be a little dangerous to whimsically attribute Corapi’s actions to this or that, it approaches a no one is culpable thinking, all the blame on the devil, all the blame on chemicals, no responsibility. Corapi is still a priest and he still gets more graces than us lay people. He has a way out AND a way of escape. Much is expected. One Catholic suggested he likely didn’t spend enough time offering up reparations, penance for his past. (When you listen to his talks in the context of what we know now , he seems kind of proud in a weird way, like their a “hook” to his stories. )

I think it’s okay to be upset with Fr. Corapi’s recent behavior.
Since the bishop and community of SOLT are in agreement,
that with proper authority over Fr. C. as over any other priest
of his status, that as of now, Fr. C’s actions are raising concern,
then I can only believe that the bishop’s actions are good.

As amny others have stated on this thread and earlier
threads, I will never take the word of a maverick priest
who is presenting accusations against a lawful bishop.

It’s that simple for me.
Amen. One priest said, this.
If he is guilty, then he should demonstrate sorrow and contrition, placing his ministry and future into the hands of his lawful superiors. It would be a wonderful teaching moment and maybe the highpoint of his ministry.** Christ is speaking to him through his superiors.** That is how priestly obedience works.
If we are to look at the prudent actions, and see them straight for what they are, especially in concern of souls being scandalized by Corapi’s public outcries…I think that is comforting.
 
Orders are a part of the Church, true. Orders have been sanctioned by the Vatican before too, recently the Legionnaires. I am not implying that SOLT is lying or anything like that. I don’t want people to think that orders like SOLT or individual bishops for that matter are not capable of making errors, lest when it does occur somewhere people don’t lose faith based on a false presumption of infallibility.

Again SOLT or an individual bishop is not the Holy Mother Church they are a part of the Church. Fallible Church officials have made bad choices in the past, it is possible (think abuse scandals of 10 years ago)
I already said and I quote ¨Since SOLT is part of Holy Mother Church¨. I didn´t say it comprises the WHOLE Church. Why the need to repeat my own words and then write as if I don´t know what I have written?

God Bless
(Praying the Corapi topic gets banned)
 
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