New SOLT Statement re: Father Corapi

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His original Facebook page is in full meltdown mode at this very moment People are being blocked and their posts which are critical of Father C. removed. Priests who have posted have been attacked and their posts blocked and the entire Jesuit order has been insulted by more than one person, not to mention Gonzaga university because it happens to be where the priest studied for his graduate work. Its like a scene from a movie in there.
 
What he is doing right now reminds me so much of someone I know, unfortunately. The person is a narcissist, who is prone to paranoia and hostility when he feels unjustly treated in his personal or business life. He is very willing to take things to court, and has had quite a bit of success because he is so obnoxious that people will settle rather than drag on for years and be damaged by his rage and venom.

The paranoia of “it’s me against the world,” and “they are all out to get me,” is so familiar. I really believe Corapi is not in his right mind, and that could be because of his previous drug use, his previous alcohol use, or that he is currently drinking and/or using. He is not in a steady frame of mind, that I can guarantee.

It is horrible.
**I agree - and that alone makes him unfit for public ministry.
No other list of “facts” or words or actions is required.

It is horrible and horribly sad.**
 
To be fair the fact that Santa Cruz media was for profit has been known for quit some time. At least 1.5 years by me. He in the past has said part of the reason was to not be silenced on certain topics like abortion due to being a non-profit. Also heads on non-profits can make pretty hefty salaries too. Not saying this is a good thing, it is just not new information.
Which is an odd thing, because non-profits can and do talk about social and political issues. They can even advocate/lobby on behalf of them as a 501(c)4. I’ve applied for both a 501(c)3 and (c)4, and can tell you that many of them are devoted to the issues.
 
A comment from another blog:

You will always have admirers, Mr. Corapi. You could rape, you could molest children, you could live with a prostitute (oh, you already did that), you could can get caught in any number of lies – and still, you will have a bevy loyal, adulating groupies.

Think of Tammy Faye, Jimmy Swaggert, any number of fallen Protestant Celebrities. They milk the flock for dollars and live high-hog on the sacrificial giving of their followers, and then they get found out – and they STILL retain a panting-ly loyal fan base!

You will, too! The more ignorant, the better! And who cares? You think they are all idiots anyway. Mindless sheep you are more than HAPPY to shepherd, and sell your wares to - for a fancy profit, of course! They WILL buy, they WILL give sacrificially – and be proud of it, too! Flash pictures of you in the media speeding on your lake in your newer, bigger boat full of bikini-babes, martinis in hand, and they will sigh and shrug, and jump fervently to your defense: “He deserves happiness! He is a good man!”

So, here you are. You’ve chosen! You want the WORLD! You prefer the world to your Holy Mother, the Church. So what if it means serving the Prince of this World. He’s treating you well, isn’t he?

Yes - like Judas, you love the world more than Jesus. You are the * new* Judas Priest! However, you think * you* can have a different end! have your cake and eat it too!

You know God is forgiving (kind of a sucker, huh?). Yes, He is forgiving. However, since you have always grossly lacked foresight, let me fill you in a bit.

When you choose to live in contempt of God and live a life steeped in sin, a life given over to your new boss, the Father of Lies, you live in constant danger that you just might (like any one of us) die suddenly and unexpectedly, with no chance to repent and with mortal sin on your soul - and then you WILL spend all of eternity in hell. And you will go there instantly, never to leave.

You already know that, and that is why you will live in constant inner nagging fear of this, and the fear will make you drink more and do drugs more and have sex more in order to forget about it. You choose to take the gamble that you WON’T die with no chance to repent.

And its true – you may NOT die suddenly. You may instead live a long life continually choosing more sin over repentance just like you have just chosen today and yesteerday and th day before that.

Trouble is, it will get harder and harder NOT to choose sin, the more steeped in it you are, and only the power of the Sacraments will pull you out. * But you have to confess first! And what you don’t realize now is that although you know at this time you could “almost” repent now if you really had to –- later on, as you get more steeped in sin, you will have MORE arrogance and you will increase* in your contempt for the things of God (like poverty, chastity, obedience! Yuk! Who wants THAT! Not you!) and you will despise God Himself who calls you to that, and you WON’T repent. You will not be able to muster up the desire to repent even on your death bed!

Because in the end it of a life of sin and of despising the things of God it will be easy, then, to refuse to ask God’s Mercy. And so, though you don’t plan it now, a life of sin WILL change who you are and it will be easy tol refuse Him who loves you and then you will spend eternity in hell, immediately upon death.

It is true. Because the deeper you get, the more likely you will refuse God’s Mercy. Like the other thief on the cross.

Oh, Mr. Corapi, if you would only choose your soul rather than the world!

I will pray, and also legions of Holy and devout Catholics will pray for you, and offer sacrifices for your salvation, some their entire lives! But your will can block even this.

Even with the Most Powerful prayers of the Blessed Mother, and the Most Powerful Will of the Holy Trinity Himself were blocked by the will of Judas, who refused God’s Mercy in the end and died a most horrible death on his way to a most horrible eternity.

You will be called the rest of your life the “Judas Priest”. You will certainly hear that in connection with your name the rest of your life. May it remind you. I will pray for your repentance.

 
Thanks Elisa,

though they’re obviously mad, what she says isn’t not true.
Trouble is, it will get harder and harder NOT to choose sin, the more steeped in it you are, and only the power of the Sacraments will pull you out. But you have to confess first!
Sin, mortal or venial, darkens the intellect and weakens the will.
 
Another web find of interest:
Code:
		FROM A SOLT PRIEST, FR SAM MEDLEY:
medleyminute.blogspot.com/2011/07/i-am-deeply-saddened-at-news-of-my.html
http://medleyminute.blogspot.com/2011/07/i-am-deeply-saddened-at-news-of-my.html

SOLT never received any money from Fr Corapi. That was the problem. He never submitted himself to the community in obedience, poverty or chastity – therefore unfit for priestly ministry. He was invited for many years to come back home, but he is too rich and too famous. I spoke of this. I was even getting ready to live with him, but he wouldn’t accept it. The terrifying nature of this scandal is how gifted he is in speaking and yet how terrible the witness of his private life.

I would ask you to please refrain from making rash judgments because you simply do not know the circumstances behind it all. Corapi lied. My superior said that he could no longer allow it. He wouldn’t be disciplined by the Church and so he forced Church authorities to use the very thing that he was leaning on – public favor – he used the press to uncover the lies. He left the public ministry, but if he wanted to start living a non-celibate life why is that not in his own personal gain?

Be very careful also of saying someone is personal sin. This is incorrect theologically. Sin is not an objective thing. Evil is objective but the personal culpability is a part of their mind our very limited sight cannot reach.

God bless you. Please pray for Corapi. Pray for priests.

Charity is “to esteem the goodness of the beloved” according to St Augustine. It is clear since you accuse me of being a liar and uncatechized that it is not I who is operating here without charity.

There is a great deal you do not know about this case that is not permitted to be revealed.

I ask you to stop accusing and start praying. We had way too much info to be able to suspend him in the first place that ought to have humbled him, but because people see him as gifted they are not permitted to see his faults.

Is it charitable to allow millions to be led astray by him? It would be sinning to not put him in his place.

I repeat, please pray for Corapi. Please do not listen to him trying to turn you against the Church authorities that have been trying to bring him in for years. I called my general superior months before this all broke out begging him to be more severe with him, and bring him into the community life, otherwise this whole thing would explode, and POW it did. Please pray for him.
 
Blog comment:

I just want to know – where do I apply for a job at Santa Cruz Media if the standard severance pay is $100,000. I know many people who have lost their jobs, and their severance pay was …. $0.

:rotfl:
 
Whether his superior’s findings are accurate or not there are several things that all of us must keep in mind.

Father Corapi is a human being. As such, he deserves respect, charity and forgiveness. St. Francis of Assisi wrote into one of our admonitions that if a brother sins we must never deny him forgiveness. If the brother does not ask for forgiveness, we should go to him and ask him if he wants our forgiveness. If the brother insists that he does not need our forgiveness (because he believes he’s innocent or above us), we must grant the forgiveness as Christ granted forgiveness to those who never asked for it. If the brother has not sin, the forgiveness is not wasted, because the grace of charity returns to us. If he is guilty, the forgiveness is truly necessary.

As far as those who keep bringing up the issue of obedience, I’m unsure why this continues to be brought up. If any Catholic does not fully understand the theology of religious obedience, I suggest that he or she read the Rule of St. Benedict. St. Benedict is the father of religious obedience. All models of religious obedience are based on his theology, which is very well articulated in his rule. Instead of second guessing what obedience should be or as someone did on a blog who quoted Aquinas, go to the source, St. Benedict. Even Aquinas was not talking about religious life when he speaks about obedience. Quoting him is out of context.

Benedict made it very clear that once one promises obedience to the superior, one surrenders one’s will, one’s wishes, one’s goals, one’s thoughts, one’s gifts and all that one has or is. It is all handed over to Christ who speaks through the superior. Benedict does not get into the nonsense that 20th century Catholics get into, “What if the superior is a sinner?” or “What if the superior is wrong?” Benedict made it clear that the efficacy of the vow of obedience lays not in the virtue of the superior or in his wisdom. That and $1.50 will get you a ride on a city bus. The efficacy of obedience lays in the act of submission on the part of the person who obeys. When we obey a superior, we give up a lot and we do so out of love, not because the superior is wise or right. The superior can be a fool and totally wrong. The virtue is found in our willingness to submit to one who is a fool and may be wrong, because we love Jesus Christ so much that we want to do exactly as he did when he was on trial before Pilate. Obedience is an act of love. Love always has a price.

Someone posted that Bl. John Paul II ordered Father to go out and preach; therefore the superior cannot trump the pope’s orders. There are two errors here. One is canonical and the other is historical. Let’s first deal with the canonical issue. A religious superior can trump a pope, if the pope’s mandate is not given under obedience. If the pope says to a newly ordained priest, “I want you to go out to evangelize the world,” and the religious superior find that this command is not in the best interest of the individual and of his community, he can rescind that request. It only becomes an order binding under obedience when the pope puts it in writing and gives it to the major superior. The pope would have to say to the major superior that he wants this man for this purpose.

Let’s look at the historical error. Father himself has said that at the time of his ordination, the major superior told him to make preaching and teaching his ministry rather than serving in a parish. The reason was that he is too talented to waste in a parish. It was not the pope. It was the superior who gave him this mandate. The mandate is perfectly legitimate. However, if the constitutions allow it, the incoming superior can annul every command given by the incumbent. Father has repeatedly said that the founder gave him this mandate. He has never said that the successor does not have the canonical right to change the mandate. To the best of my knowledge, there are only three founders whose mandates can never be annulled or abrogated: Benedict, Augustine and Francis of Assisi. It would take an act by the Apostolic See to go over their heads. Their successors are stuck with what these guys left us. Every other founder is replaced by his successors and his commands cease to be binding unless the successor reaffirms them. Even Albert, who wrote the Carmelite Rule, did not include absolute commands in the rule. It’s a highly theological and spiritual document. The General Chapter is the highest Carmelite authority, not Albert. This means that the Prior General has the authority to impose and implement whatever the General Chapter decides. It’s the same for the SOLT.

Because the SOLT is a society of apostolic life of diocesan right, the founder does not have perpetual authority. His successor can make changes. The General Chapter can make changes and the Bishop of Corpus Christi must approve. In a religious order or a congregation of Pontifical Right, it is the Holy See that must approve of changes in the statutes that govern them.

Whether or not the bishop and the superior like Father Corapi, it’s a tough situation. The Church is on their side. It falls on Father Corapi to appeal. However, I’m having trouble imagining any judge feeling sympathetic to a person who broadcasts that the Church’s legal system is flawed and calls them Kangaroo Courts or some such thing all over the internet.

I can also understand the superior of the SOLT. He has to protect the good name of his society. It is one thing for a member to leave and another for a member to get everyone angry at them.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I found this post of the lawsuit filed by Fr. Corapi and Santa Cruz Media. I have no idea of its authenticity, but looks legit.

snapnetwork.org/PDF_files/RedactedCharge.pdf

My question is, given that both sides state he was to be self-supportive, is it normal for Santa Cruz Media to be a for profit corporation? One would think he’d have some kind of not-for-profit corporation to lower taxes and donate any profits. Or even lower the costs of his materials.
It’s my understanding that not-for-profits are
subject to both scrutiny and review and inspection
to retain any not-for-profit status.

IOW, subject to real oversight.
 
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He’s probably told it a few times. One where he was joking about the old guy. Not in a bad way or anything I don’t think.
Yes, but I never heard him tell it in a way that indicated he was told he should not become a priest because of his past.
 
I think you are onto something. He certainly has a degree of narcissism. Or - it may even be the full-blown personality disorder. And* if *that is so, it would mean that not only is he not of right mind now (as many have surmised from the current public observations) - he never was! A bona fide Narcissist often presents a better-than-life imitation of normalcy, but they are NOT normal, and never were - and that fact always comes out eventually…
Although it goes undetectable in their public persona, it is very clear in all their relationships and personal interactions with others. One concern are many reports of how he was inattentive and dismissive of individuals. He has said he was not called to be a parish priest, that he does not have the “gifts” for that. It may be that he does not have the constitution for it.
 
A comment from another blog:

You will always have admirers, Mr. Corapi.

I will pray for your repentance.

Eliza, please do not bring such things here.
If any wish to enter such sites, they can do so.
Yet it would be a great kindness to spare CA such “quotes.”
It’s likely many at CA will never look into those sites, of their own free will.

Thank you.
 
Br. JR, OSF, you have written a very informative piece here on subject of obedience particularly as it relates to John Corapi’s oft-repeated claim of “entitlement” that he can do as he chooses since Flanigan told him he could!

He keeps saying it, and a lot of us readers say, “Oh.”

Personally, I “Oh.” as well. and then: “Hmm, something sounds fishy here, and what the Church says that sounds fishy and wrong always ends up being something beautiful and right and just when I investigate and find out what the Church ACTUALLY teaches.”

So thanks for telling us what the Church ACTUALLY teaches on this matter. Its true and right and just - as usual!

Here are what I think are key excerpts to what you wrote for those who like shorter versions:
"… If the pope says to a newly ordained priest, “I want you to go out to evangelize the world,” and the religious superior find that this command is not in the best interest of the individual and of his community, he can rescind that request. It only becomes an order binding under obedience when the pope puts it in writing and gives it to the major superior. The pope would have to say to the major superior that he wants this man for this purpose.

Let’s look at the historical error. Father [Corapi] himself has said that at the time of his ordination, the major superior told him to make preaching and teaching his ministry rather than serving in a parish. The reason was that he is too talented to waste in a parish. It was not the pope. It was the superior who gave him this mandate. The mandate is perfectly legitimate.

However, if the constitutions allow it, the incoming superior can annul every command given by the incumbent. Father [Corapi] has repeatedly said that the founder gave him this mandate. He has never said that the successor does not have the canonical right to change the mandate…

… there are only* three founders* whose mandates can never be annulled or abrogated: Benedict, Augustine and Francis of Assisi. It would take an act by the Apostolic See to go over their heads. Their successors are stuck with what these guys left us.

Every other founder is replaced by his successors and his commands cease to be binding unless the successor reaffirms them…

… This means that the Prior General has the authority to impose and implement whatever the General Chapter decides. It’s the same for the SOLT.

Because the SOLT is a society of apostolic life of diocesan right, the founder does not have perpetual authority. His successor can make changes. The General Chapter can make changes and the Bishop of Corpus Christi must approve…

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I am reading bloggers and comments around the Internet. Here is one:

Late this afternoon, the lawyer of Fr. John Corapi released a short statement. It does not address many of the specific charges in Fr. Sheehan’s July 5th statement, but some select items. In fact, some of it is ambiguous, such as this:Regarding the charge of sexual impropriety—This song of greed has been sung many times before. I have never had any promiscuous or even inappropriate relations with her. Never.Who is “her”?

…Nevermind.

And what if he thinks his relations were not promiscuous and entirely appropriate?

And what if he had relations with other women?
 
Eliza, please do not bring such things here.
If any wish to enter such sites, they can do so.
Yet it would be a great kindness to spare CA such “quotes.”
It’s likely many at CA will never look into those sites, of their own free will.

Thank you.
Yes! Talk of hell makes us all squeamish! I do understand your distaste. Its a topic usually avoided in the pulpit, too! These are thoughts people don’t want brought ANYWHERE!

Yes, to remind a person that we never know when our last day or our last moment might be, and that living in unrepentant mortal sin can possibly lead to death in mortal sin - and then: eternal damnation – that is enough to send many a dignified person running from “such sites”, from such conversations and from such parishes where such unbecoming truths are mentioned! :eek:
 
how quickly we are to judge. we are all human and fall short of the grace of God. What makes a priest even less likely to be perfect. Pdeople dont be so quickly dececeived Satan walks amongst us!
 
Yes! Talk of hell makes us all squeamish! I do understand your distaste. Its a topic usually avoided in the pulpit, too! These are thoughts people don’t want brought ANYWHERE!

Yes, to remind a person that we never know when our last day or our last moment might be, and that living in unrepentant mortal sin can possibly lead to death in mortal sin - and then: eternal damnation – that is enough to send many a dignified person running from “such sites”, from such conversations and from such parishes where such unbecoming truths are mentioned! :eek:
Clearly, you do not understand my distaste at all.
You seem to be very fond of sarcasm though.

Your quoted material and this post of yours make that very clear.
 
i am not sure this statement could really be categorized as a “surprise”.

it gave people the impression that he would be announcing something new.

i wish he would just be quiet. 😦
 
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