New warnings on cigarette packages

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constant exposure to warnings/adverts DE-sensitizes the viewer…

As for the old cases… the whole pack cases are far more likely to be used; they’re still available new, and rather popular amongst “stuffers”…

Mind you, I quit just over 3 years ago… because I was mostly unconscious for several days due to a combined knee injury and sinus infection.

There are those who buy premades, those who roll, and those who use “tube stuffers” to make what look like premades.

I smoked a pipe more often than cigarettes, but handrolled or stuffed with mixed pipe and cigarette tobaccos, and often smoked kretek (cloves). Sure, the bag might have the warnings, but put those ugly pics on it, and the package will never come out of the paper bag, but the tobacco will.

And if cloves were still $4 per pack, instead of illegal, I’d probably still be smoking, because I genuinely enjoyed it and miss it.

And as for the kids: They’re getting the lectures on it 4-5 times a year in my local school district, complete with all the ugly pictures… it’s NOT working. The kids still are smoking. They just no longer talk about whether they do and where they get them, since, at least in Alaska, it’s now a felony to provide tobacco to a minor.

The pics on the package aren’t going to be seen long; kids will simply laugh at them and/or remove them or cover them. Adults will simply keep them in a pocket or case.

And I’ve seen kids who reeked of smoke right after lunch mark “non-smoker” on school surveys. This new generation doesn’t believe what’s being taught, because so much is obviously propaganda.
 
Pax_et_Bonum said:
A Fat tax is next.The chubbos will feel the heat just like smokers.Liberals aren’t happy until they are forcing other people to live their lives the way the lieberals want them to.
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Don’t kid yourself, there are alot of big, control-freak, government “conservatives” out there as well. Think Lindsey Graham, John McCain, etc…
 
Im starting to think from reading this thread that I am the only Catholic smoker
 
JHow said:
Maybe people will switch to rolling their own from loose tobacco. That’s what all the cool cowboys did (see Cohen Bros.’ “True Grit”, for example).

And isn’t part of the attraction of smoking a certain rebellious attitude? Knowing that society doesn’t approve? (vice Virginia Slims’ “You’ve come a long way baby!” ad campaign) Don’t the gory pictures just play into that?
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That is what I remember happened in Norway when they started to tax the bugeesus out of cigarettes, people just turned to rolling their own cigarettes or using snus and other tobacco products. But that loophole is already closed here in the US as there was a 2000% tax hike on loose tobacco a while back.

The new packaging on the cigarettes is mostly intended to stop teens from ever starting the habit, and there is research from other countries that already use the graphic packaging that shows it is effective. Overall it seems like a good move to me.
 
SalesianSDB said:
I don’t like smoking, but come on. This is too much. Did people smoking really not know how bad it is? All this will do is guilt smokers, but they will probably still smoke.
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I dunno… cigarettes have long been known to be unhealthy. The old nickname for them as “coffin nails” predated the 1960s advent of the Surgeon General’s warning which was mandated for each package in the US. But the printed warning has been credited with beginning the decline in US smoking rates. So a visible reminder may well prompt a smoker to reconsider, especially a reminder so graphic.

But, yes, smokers do find ways to overlook the health risks:
 
EzraJacob said:
Im starting to think from reading this thread that I am the only Catholic smoker
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No, there are a lot of them. But then, I live in the Ozarks and a lot of people smoke here.
I can’t prove it, of course, but it has sometimes seemed to me smokers are kinder-hearted people than most. Possibly because most are on the lower end of the socio-economic scale where humility might come a bit more readily.

One thing the government is going to find hard to do is totally prevent smoking or other tobacco use. My grandfather smoked a pipe and he raised his own tobacco in his back yard. Tobacco plants are enormous, and I’m sure it doesn’t take many of them to keep a smoker supplied.
 
I was talking with my girlfriend about this the other day.

I don’t her I don’t like it. The reason the newspaper said they were doing it was to ‘cause fear and disgust’.

I’m like, ‘Kick back with the fear mongering’. She said, ‘Well it’s the truth, maybe now people will stop smoking.’

I told her, ‘Well the pictures of ripped apart babies shown in front of Planned Parenthood are ‘the truth’. I suppose the government will force them to post those as warning labels now too’.

:gopray2:

I don’t even really like the graphic images, because I do feel like it’s not the best tactic. But if they are going to do it to smokers 🤷
 
Ridgerunner said:
No, there are a lot of them. But then, I live in the Ozarks and a lot of people smoke here.
I can’t prove it, of course, but it has sometimes seemed to me smokers are kinder-hearted people than most. Possibly because most are on the lower end of the socio-economic scale where humility might come a bit more readily.

One thing the government is going to find hard to do is totally prevent smoking or other tobacco use. My grandfather smoked a pipe and he raised his own tobacco in his back yard. Tobacco plants are enormous, and I’m sure it doesn’t take many of them to keep a smoker supplied.
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I wanted to do that when I was living in the south, but I got there a few months late and left in the middle of winter. They are very huge and probably take alot of work though.
 
EzraJacob said:
I wanted to do that when I was living in the south, but I got there a few months late and left in the middle of winter. They are very huge and probably take alot of work though.
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Interesting idea, growing your own. Break out the Foxfire books! Personally, I would be more tempted to try my hand at distilling - another Southern pastime.
 
Where are the graphic warning labels outside of abortion clinics telling women: ABORTION MIGHT BE BAD FOR THE HEALTH OF YOUR BABY!?
 
irishpatrick said:
Where are the graphic warning labels outside of abortion clinics telling women: ABORTION MIGHT BE BAD FOR THE HEALTH OF YOUR BABY!?
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Thats what I was saying, LOL 'cept re-reading my post I think I had a brainfart while trying to so.

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how does a thread about smoking morph into one about abortion? Oh I know how!
 
ringil said:
how does a thread about smoking morph into one about abortion? Oh I know how!
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Because the same people who told us they shouldn’t use graphic pictures outside of abortion clinics for fear of traumatizing our children are supporting putting graphic pictures on cigarette packages.
 
In the nanny state, smokers are the new lepers.

Just make them call out “unclean! unclean!” whenever they approach someone in public.

Edit: Also, will Turner Classic Movie network be banned from the air? In those old movies, everybody smokes.
 
JHow said:
That’s true. I watched The Big Sleep the other day and it struck me how every few minutes one character or another was lighting up.
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It’s hard to even imagine now how pervasive smoking once was. I remember, as a kid, seeing ashtrays on the attorneys’ tables in courtrooms and on the judges’ benches too. Probably they brought them in for individual jurors. They had ashtrays in doctors’ offices and in hospital rooms, and I remember a doctor lighting up in the examining room once when I was a kid.

Absolutely every business office had them.

Older barshop chairs still have built-in (but now unused) ashtrays in the arms of the chairs. Movie theaters in which people smoked were (I think) unusual, but I can remember being in one.

I don’t know how much smoking has declined over the last few decades, but accommodation sure has.
 
Ridgerunner said:
It’s hard to even imagine now how pervasive smoking once was. I remember, as a kid, seeing ashtrays on the attorneys’ tables in courtrooms and on the judges’ benches too. Probably they brought them in for individual jurors. They had ashtrays in doctors’ offices and in hospital rooms, and I remember a doctor lighting up in the examining room once when I was a kid.

Absolutely every business office had them.

Older barshop chairs still have built-in (but now unused) ashtrays in the arms of the chairs. Movie theaters in which people smoked were (I think) unusual, but I can remember being in one.

I don’t know how much smoking has declined over the last few decades, but accommodation sure has.
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When I was in first grade, we made clay ashtrays as our art project for Father’s Day gifts. Can you imagine what would happen to that poor teacher today?
 
Corki said:
When I was in first grade, we made clay ashtrays as our art project for Father’s Day gifts. Can you imagine what would happen to that poor teacher today?
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Oh! He/she would be shot at sunrise, and they might not even wait until sunrise.
 
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