New York could become first state to ban cat declawing

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It’s barbaric. If you don’t want a pet with claws, don’t get a cat.
 
Weird. I not only declaw, but go much further by neutering or spaying.
 
Yes, that is odd. Here cats are even euthanized sometimes when there are an excess of unadopted pets in shelters.

I do know that the procedure is done under anesthesia here. I also see the danger in removing the claws of a cat that lives outside, and that such a pet should be kept until it dies.
 
I can see CPS involvement, if a family with young children has cats. Just having cats might be considered neglect
 
You touched on why this is absurd. In NY one can’t harm a cat (and no I am not saying they should), but they can eviscerate an unborn child. It really boggles the mind.
 
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Weird. I not only declaw, but go much further by neutering or spaying.
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I’ve also heard that some owners cut the tails off their hounds!!!

Seriously though, it’s a good life for an urban indoor cat.
If losing claws moves it from living in a shelter to a loving home, it’s not a question
 
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But a doctor can chop up an unborn human and not serve time?
 
Hmmm… looks like AOC is in it for the long haul then…
 
I’m not the kind of person to tell other people what to do in a heavy-handed way (I hope) but when people I know consider declawing their cat and I ask them why, it’s usually furniture-related, which I don’t think is a good reason for mutilating the animal.
 
Not one to mince words, is Madame Carnelian.
 
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Kira was the embodiment of moxie, perfectly played by Nana Messenger. As for TOS characters being perfect, yes I agree that that’s only from a later fan’s perspective. A while ago I ended up watching for the first time McGuyver with my son, and I was surprised how perfect he was because even in that era, the protagonists on shows on broadcast television weren’t allowed to have serious flaws or to be anti-heroes like say Tony Soprano. They were more like Eagle Scouts. I don’t remember McGuyver making any serious mistakes or having any flaws. He was never tempted to do anything bad or irresponsible. He didn’t have too much of a personality or home life either. In short, he was more of an archetype than a character, and I think the same thing could be said of Kirk, Spock and McCoy (Pon Far notwithstanding).
 
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Your wife is obviously a very smart woman. I share her opinion and am quite happy to hear this news. We’re trying to get something like that passed here in Maine.
 
Then let me throw out another perspective.

Furniture is expensive. Having to replace it on a regular basis could change the cost of owning a pet from the hundreds of dollars ,to the thousands. My own perspective is that would be too much. And it is nothing like having one’s fingers chopped off. It would be like having nails removed under anesthesia, and pets are still not people. I am confused on this. I have never heard a peep about it being an issue anywhere. What is the problem? Is it that it affects a cat’s behavior, or that it is believed to be done in an inhumane fashion, or something else? The first two I can’t buy, so I wonder if I am missing something.

I am curious if the places that are banning de-clawing also ban neutering, which is a much greater change. I know which I would prefer.
 
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But a doctor can chop up an unborn human and not serve time?
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I would think that if they ban declawing then those that want one will simply get one from somewhere else, helping the shelters in other areas at least. I wonder if there could be de-clawing vacations.
 
I guess it’s more like clipping a bird’s wings as it removes something integral to what makes a cat a cat. And regarding furniture, I think one can buy furniture that isn’t affected by a cat sharpening its claws.
 
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So did Odo. I always imagined theyd have beautiful children, what with Kira’s Bajoran nose, and Odo’s ability to assume whatever perfect features he wants. There is no good excuse for any homely changeling 🙂
 
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I guess it’s more like clipping a bird’s wings as it removes something integral to what makes a cat a cat. And regarding furniture, I think one can buy furniture that isn’t affected by a cat sharpening its claws.
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Cat’s are completely mobile without their claws, they just can’t climb the curtains anymore. Your analogy isn’t a fit.

Jails have furniture that’s immune to scratching, but not IKEA or any furniture store I’ve been in.

The valid argument I’ve read against the practice is they lose a defensive weapon, a problem if you let your cat outdoors. I’m speaking as someone who has cats but never declawed them. You can get most of the benefit by regularly clipping their claws (which also makes them equally defenseless).
 
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