New York Mayor Bill de Blasio won’t march in St. Patrick’s Day parade

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Trader said:
May I ask a dumb question? Does the NY Gay Pride parade allow the Catholic apostolate, Courage, to march in its parade as an equal member for people with same sex attraction?
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If they had signs emphasizing the dignity of the person, yes. If they had signs encouraging people to stop dating members of the same sex, probably not. Courage’s objective is not one that can easily be put on a piece of cardboard. I’d imagine the organizers would be fine with Courage organizing if they wanted to, if they limited their signs to things like “we all have equal dignity” or “we all have equal integrity” or the like. Of course, there is always the point that participation in such an event with such signs could give observers reason to think you support same-sex behavior, so it would be ill-advised, I’d imagine.
 
Lochias said:
Would the KKK be allowed to carry their signs and insignia in a Black History Month parade?

No, I hear?

Then why would the gay / lesbian agenda be allowed to carry THEIR advertisements in a SAINT PATRICK’S Day parade? 🤷
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Because St. Paddy’s is not really a religious parade (was it ever), that being said, I still do not agree with the mayor, i.e., it’s ridiculous really (don’t know if he was pressured by the LGBT or if he’s just seeking media attention).
 
Trader said:
As my Irish mother used to say, “There are two kinds of people in the world, those who are Irish, and those who wish they were Irish.”

This is clearly a case of envy of the Irish. We honor Saint Patrick for bringing Christ to our ancestors, which is contrary to calling sodomy a good thing.
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Don’t need him there.👍
 
Catholics are able to break their Lenten obligations as long as the beer that they drink on St Patrick’s is green.
Likewise if the gay rainbow flag is transformed to six different shades of green for the parade, I am sure that that would be acceptable.

Among the crowd of revelers drinking the green beer, it would be acceptable anyway.
 
DaddyGirl said:
Are other individuals/groups allowed to carry signs?
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You can see that homosexualist propaganda is entirely out of line with the spirit of the parade from the type of groups mentioned below. Planned Parenthood probably would not be welcome, either. The groups must carry Irish and American flags and can carry a banner with the name and logo of their group. If you do an image search online you will see the sort of banner groups carry.
For more than 250 years, the St. Patrick’s Day Parade has transformed the streets of New York City into a massive stage filled with floats, bands and musical groups, elaborately costumed performers, and legions of proudly marching members of **cultural heritage associations, trade organizations and religious groups. **
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The parade typically comprises more than 150,000 marchers, and over two million people come out to watch the procession. Military, firefighting and law enforcement groups play a prominent role in the parade, given that Irish immigrants and their descendants commonly enter these civil service careers.
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Members of different emigrant societies and county associations also make up a large portion of the parade, as do other** Irish cultural clubs and social organizations**. The membership ranks of the emigrant societies and county associations reflect the areas of Ireland from which their ancestors originated.
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**Marching bands and ethnic musical groups **also make their appearance in the NYC St. Patrick’s Day Parade. **Traditional Celtic dance associations and performance arts groups **add gaiety to the annual celebration of Irish heritage.
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Above taken from homeaway.com/info/travelers/travel-ideas/new-york-vacations/new-york-city/manhattan/nyc-st-patricks-day-parade

From the website: 2014 GUIDELINES FOR THE ST. PATRICK’S DAY PARADE PARTICIPANTS
  1. All units must have two (2) flags. Irish & American flags or no flags at all.
    NO EXCEPTIONS!! An American flag on the right and an Irish flag on the left.
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  1. The only banners allowed are ones identifying the unit or “England Get Out of Ireland”. Only one identifying banner for each unit. NO EXCEPTIONS!!
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  1. No displays of any kind will be permitted. DO NOT ASK!!
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  1. Shirts with advertising are NOT an appropriate form of dress.
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DaddyGirl said:
Boy oh boy oh boy.

A few have answered my very simple, logical question with another question. Why?

I’m just trying to find out if other people who are marching are allowed to carry signs or not.
Of course it means something if other groups are allowed to carry signs but one group is not. This is important to know. So I’m trying to find out if this is the case or not.
Very simple.

Does anyone know?

Metlzerboy, you’re a Nu Yawker…do you know?

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And I’m saying if there were, what difference does it make? Do they have to allow anyone on earth to promote their stuff at their parade?
 
DaddyGirl said:
Got it.
Thanks, Corki.

The Saint Patrick’s Day Parade in NYC is a strictly Catholic parade, then?
And anyone who would carry a sign that would seemingly go against Catholic teachings would not be allowed to carry that sign?

It always seems here in NYC to be more of a celebration of Irish and Irish American culture, rather than anything religious.
Plus, it’s also a day observed by Anglicans, Eastern Orthodox, and Lutheran, right?

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St. Patrick was Catholic but the holiday isn’t just observed by Catholics nor is the parade a Catholic parade. But it’s not a “gay” pride parade either. A group carrying “gay” pride signs would not be in harmony with the holiday or the parade any more than a group carrying “white power” signs would be in harmony with a MLK day parade or a group from Westboro Baptist would be in harmony with a “gay” pride parade.

The parade is not a government event. It is a group of private citizens who get the permits and sponsor the parade. They get to pick what is allowed in their parade. As the saying goes, “He who pays the piper, picks the tune.”
 
I am sure Cardinal Dolan is just devastated he won’t be there:kissme:
 
DaddyGirl said:
Boy oh boy oh boy.

A few have answered my very simple, logical question with another question. Why?

I’m just trying to find out if other people who are marching are allowed to carry signs or not.
Of course it means something if other groups are allowed to carry signs but one group is not. This is important to know. So I’m trying to find out if this is the case or not.
Very simple.

Does anyone know?

Metlzerboy, you’re a Nu Yawker…do you know?

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Your question was logically answered more than once, but don’t let that stop you; your axe still looks a little dull.
 
St Patricks day is all about letting go of your other identities and taking on an Irish identity for one day.

Who needs all this politically correct inclusive bs being thrust in front of our faces at every celebration?

For sure Englishmen aren’t having the welcome mat held out for them either, unless they agree to stop being an Englishman for day, and put a clover in their lapels.

If Bill de Blasio can’t drop his pc political agenda for one day, it is his missed photo-op. Nobody else is going to miss him.

Same with the gay activist. This is not the Mardi Gras where everything wild, weird and wonderful becomes the norm for one day. This is St Patricks Day. The way to be special on Saint Patricks day is to check in your other identities at the door and take on an exclusively Irish identity. People that can’t do that aren’t much fun to be around anyway, so they will be missed even less than Bill De Blasio if they decide not to be there.
 
SMGS127 said:
If they had signs emphasizing the dignity of the person, yes. If they had signs encouraging people to stop dating members of the same sex, probably not. Courage’s objective is not one that can easily be put on a piece of cardboard. I’d imagine the organizers would be fine with Courage organizing if they wanted to, if they limited their signs to things like “we all have equal dignity” or “we all have equal integrity” or the like. Of course, there is always the point that participation in such an event with such signs could give observers reason to think you support same-sex behavior, so it would be ill-advised, I’d imagine.
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It would be my sincere hope that Courage has the class to stay out of depraved celebrations of sodomy such as “gay pride parades”. I’d wonder even if the organizers would permit such an organization to take part. After all, Courage is not dedicated to affirming and promoting abominable behavior like Dignity or New Ways Ministry is. You will not see Courage members marching with indecent clothing and shouting disgusting slogans as is expected behavior in such a celebration. I don’t know what Courage really does, so I could be wrong here, but IMHO I see Courage as much more appropriate in a Eucharistic procession than a “gay pride parade”.
 
DaddyGirl said:
Ah, I see no one is allowed to carry signs then…except the one or two specified signs?

But contrary to what you suppose, when I and many others look at the list of groups you posted above, I think the opposite of what you suggest.
The list makes me think the parade is well-suited for gay people to march and be proud of their group…since there are gay people in and every each one of those groups you mention–emigrant societies, county associations, Irish cultural clubs, marching bands, ethnic musical groups, celtic dance associations…musical groups, elaborately costumed performers…military, law enforcement, firefighters…trade organizations and religious groups…Irish immigrants…other civil service careers…each group has members who are gay, it cuts across the board.
And don’t forget that last line…they are all meant to “add gaiety”!
Gay people are Irish, too.

But again, if no one is allowed to carry signs espousing their group’s “propaganda” or signs that say anything except “yay for the Irish!” etc…then no one is allowed to carry signs. These are the rules for everyone then.

No other “propaganda” signs are allowed–be they religious or anything, yes?

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The rules for flags and signs are perfectly clear. There is no room for misunderstanding.
American flag, Irish flag, signs supporting Ireland, America and all things Irish and/or American. Got it now? No need to keep whining about Gay propaganda excluded. That and the Mayor will not be missed.:irish3:
 
=Corki;11676655]St. Patrick was Catholic but the holiday isn’t just observed by Catholics nor is the parade a Catholic parade. But it’s not a “gay” pride parade either. A group carrying “gay” pride signs would not be in harmony with the holiday or the parade any more than a group carrying “white power” signs would be in harmony w]ith a MLK day parade
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or a group from Westboro Baptist would be in harmony with a “gay” pride parade.

oooooh…That’s a GOOD one.

Notice how they don’t mess with MLK day?

The reasons are painfully obvious…if one is a progressive! 😃
 
It has become a real obsession for some groups and individuals to propagandize their agenda on all stages, as if their agenda is the only one that matters.🤷
 
The interesting thing about all of this is how there seems to be controversy surrounding the St. Patrick’s Day Parade in NY almost every year over the gay issue. Also, people love to make remarks about those “inebriated” people at the parade. And, of course, let’s not even start on the Columbus Day parade. Yet, there is almost never any controversy surrounding the West Indies parade in Brooklyn where there are almost always shootings and stabbings every year. De Blasio proudly marched in that one, dancing and jumping around like a fool. Just sayin…

Bill Donohue, president of NYC’s Catholic League, said he is “delighted” De Blasio won’t be marching in the parade, saying he doesn’t want to be associated with a public official who doesn’t want to be around Irish Catholics. Well said. I hope Cuomo stays far away as well.
 
Does he also not drive on roads that don’t have gay pride signs posted alongside them? Will he refuse to visit a house if it doesn’t have a rainbow flag flying above the porch? I don’t get it. On the sheer irrelevance of gay pride to an Irish/Catholic holiday alone they were justified in refusing to have a gay pride contingent. They also probably won’t have a testicular cancer awareness float either; that doesn’t mean they hate people with testicular cancer. It just has nothing to with the parade. Even the firmest supporter of the gay movement has no reason to take issue with this. It’s just not relevant to the parade. I mean, does absolutely everything have to be about gay rights?
 
grotto said:
The rules for flags and signs are perfectly clear. There is no room for misunderstanding.
American flag, Irish flag, signs supporting Ireland, America and all things Irish and/or American. Got it now? No need to keep whining about Gay propaganda excluded. That and the Mayor will not be missed.:irish3:
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I’ll never understand nor appreciate the lengths some people go to to defend things contrary to Catholic teaching on a Catholic website. I wonder how many regular poster here spend as much time clogging message boards at muslimanswers.com?
 
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