The Vatican is completely aware of the situation. However, these things may not move as fast as one would like…
This is quite an accusation. There are always going to be traitors in the Church just like in the times of Jesus. The Church cannot accept such a sin. I can understand those who don’t have the promise of Christ to go that the route but not the Church Jesus Himself owns. I resent your statement.
I certainly did not mean to offend, but even to me, an interested non-Catholic, it has been apparent for a long time that the diocese of Rochester has been considered less than orthodox by many commentators. Since the Vatican has not chosen to intervene in any public way, we may at least speculate that they have their reasons. My statement was not an accusation, mearly an observation.
Or, “we may speculate” that the Vatican has other priorities, other fires to put out, or is intervenng in a private way.
I think we are saying the same thing in slightly different ways. I did not mean to suggest that the Vatican willingly tolerates or encourages divergence from orthodoxy.Or, “we may speculate” that the Vatican has other priorities, other fires to put out, or is intervenng in a private way.
This is an opinon and not the Truth to say that this parish is conservative. Yet, what is conservative? who says It?
People with a grudge against the Church pretend to be Catholic so they can bring scandal to the Church.Spiritus Christi is not a Catholic church under the bishop. It is a church which broke away from the bishop in 1998.
cleansingfiredor.com/2011/05/here-a-priestess-there-a-priestess/
We have such a church in schism in St. Louis. When then Archbishop Burke tried to reign them in, he was publicly crucified by the press and liberal Catholics.
People can claim to be what they want. I can’t for the life of me understand why they want to be called “Catholic” if they don’t want to obey the Catholic Church.
It seems that many desire the title Catholic no matter what. Just think of how many out there hate the Church but insist in being Catholic to the point of even calling the CC of roman Catholic Church as a way of diminishing her to nothing more than just one more church among many.
One answer, that is publically known is that the Spiritus Christi folk feel that the Church is too conservative and too slow to react to “change.” So, they feel they are “prophetic” in some way.Spiritus Christi is not a Catholic church under the bishop. It is a church which broke away from the bishop in 1998.
cleansingfiredor.com/2011/05/here-a-priestess-there-a-priestess/
We have such a church in schism in St. Louis. When then Archbishop Burke tried to reign them in, he was publicly crucified by the press and liberal Catholics.
People can claim to be what they want. I can’t for the life of me understand why they want to be called “Catholic” if they don’t want to obey the Catholic Church.
I don’t know where you got that number but, according to Mark Gray at CARA, Catholic Mass attendance in the U.S. has been “extraordinarily stable” at 24% over the last 10 years.In fairness (I do not know this bishop), the country at large has suffered a 25% decline in Mass attendance, overall versus just one year ago, IIRC. (Don’t have the links handy.)’
The claim is a nationwide 24% Mass attendance rate.
The link you provided states:
At 23%, the Diocese of Rochester’s Mass attendance rate isn’t significantly different from the 24% nationwide average. What am I missing here?
I think the issue that is concerning is that the rate has fallen drastically over the years.
It has, but the Diocese of Rochester doesn’t seem to be significantly different than anywhere else in that regard.
It isn’t now, but it was much better 10 years ago, at ~ 37%.
There were a couple of online Catholic publications which had reported on a national survey. It might have been conducted by Catholics, not the secular media.
