News from Diocese of Saginaw, MI

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I heard today that the Fransicans will no longer be supplying priests for St. Thomas Aquinas Parish in Saginaw Township, Michigan. I believe this to be effective in July. What a great loss for the diocese and unfortunately another hole to fill for the Bishop.
 
I heard today that the Fransicans will no longer be supplying priests for St. Thomas Aquinas Parish in Saginaw Township, Michigan. I believe this to be effective in July. What a great loss for the diocese and unfortunately another hole to fill for the Bishop.
Oh my. That’s my parish. Did they announce this at mass or in the bulletin or something (I went elsewhere for mass yesterday)? It’s a large parish served by two priests. Is their order sending them somewhere else in July?
 
From Saginaw Seminarians blog:

Let me apologize for the months without a post.

The reason was simple: I needed as few distractions as possible. I’ve discerned that it is God’s Will that I move on and not continue towards the priesthood.

I’ve moved out East to D.C. and will be starting my Masters at the Pontifical John Paul II Institute for Studies on Marriage and Family. I would appreciate your prayers as I begin this new stage of my life.

Saginaw Seminarians has a new writer, however, and will soon begin filling up this space with new and original posts. Enjoy. If you would like to continue reading work by me, you can visit my new blog, Unshakably Convinced. It will have similar content as you saw while I wrote for Seminarians.

Thanks again for all your prayers and support,

Richard Budd
 
Oh no!, perhaps Rich Budd did not want this posted on this particular forum, seems it was intended for the Seminarian Blog, Regardless, the decision for Rich Budd to discern out of the vocation of priesthood deserves it’s sanctity. It is nothing more than pure and simple willingness to follow God’s will in your life. I am certain that God has great things planned for Rich, as he was such a gift to all in this dioceses, especially the young people. God has great things planned for him. On a personal level, I KNOW that he was instrumental in witnessing his great love for the Lord, he will be an awesome Family and Marriage Counselor/professor/advisor. I am not certain which one. GO RICH!!😃
God’s timing is everything. Here is a portion of the letter I wrote last evening to Bishop Carlson, I had not known about the previous submissions.
Dear Bishop Carlson,
Thank you for providing the fertile ground that enables our seminarians to spread their wings and grow in their faith. I would like to say you have the “right” formula for attracting so many potential priests. The good people in the Diocese of Saginaw speak of this often, are amazed, are renewed in their own hope, and are reminded that God loves each and everyone of us, we are all called. I can’t put my finger on it, the holiness of the ordination, the transformation, the visualization of Grace. I can only believe that we are not to know everything, we must acknowledge the mystery. We bow to the wisdom, to the love. However, formula is not the right word, it addresses only the surface appearance, the logistics so to say. There is a deeper and more profound movement. The truth revealed. I feel that in your willingness to express deeply the love Jesus has for us, in your need to have each and everyone know the gift and responsibility of this love, the closed door has been opened. I can only pray for (any seminarian) to follow God’s will. There lies the beauty, the trust.

Bishop Carlson, this worldy life is difficult and our cross is heavy. The more we try to carry it on our own the heavier it becomes, we become short sighted as we are consumed with the immediacy of it. Thank you for bearing your cross so gracefully. In regards to the penance pastoral and the opposition of a few, I would like to share my limited perspective. A determination of value of personal healing can not be measured. The mercy and forgiveness inherent in the sacrament of penance is primary. I can only imagine that as you celebrated this sacrament with so many, certainly you stand in awe of the healing nature of reconciliation. …The timing of the distribution of this pastoral penance is indisputable, not subject to a worthy argument of opposition. My experience has been that during lent, that which we place before the lord, becomes transformed. This takes a lot of courage and much faith, because our sin is held so tightly. Should the shortage of priests make You shrink from the responsibility of wanting what God intended, certainly not… Always stay centered on the fruit, the blessings, it is where the will of God is evident.
May God always bless you!,
LIsa
 
Oh no!, perhaps Rich Budd did not want this posted on this particular forum, seems it was intended for the Seminarian Blog,
Well I don’t know him but I don’t think he’ll mind. As a blog author I’m sure he knows anything he posts on the internet is fair game for anyone to view (…and link to.). Since it started, I’ve had an RSS feed to alert me of new entries in the Saginaw Seminarians blog. Anyway, I was just reporting a bit of suprising “News from Diocese of Saginaw, MI.”
Regardless, the decision for Rich Budd to discern out of the vocation of priesthood deserves it’s sanctity. It is nothing more than pure and simple willingness to follow God’s will in your life. I am certain that God has great things planned for Rich, as he was such a gift to all in this dioceses, especially the young people. God has great things planned for him. On a personal level, I KNOW that he was instrumental in witnessing his great love for the Lord, he will be an awesome Family and Marriage Counselor/professor/advisor. I am not certain which one. GO RICH!!😃
I totally agree with you (Although i can’t speak from a personal level), respect his decision, and will pray for him!
 
I heard today that the Fransicans will no longer be supplying priests for St. Thomas Aquinas Parish in Saginaw Township, Michigan. I believe this to be effective in July. What a great loss for the diocese and unfortunately another hole to fill for the Bishop.
This is indeed a huge loss. So the Franciscans are pulling out of this parish altogether? Is there someone within the Franciscan order we could write to asking them to reconsider this?
 
This is indeed a huge loss. So the Franciscans are pulling out of this parish altogether? Is there someone within the Franciscan order we could write to asking them to reconsider this?
THe priests at St. Thomas have been there 12 years. That’s probably the max # of years allowed as established by the diocese. You could write the order but its not up to them to allow them to stay. They simply don’t have anyone else available to replace them.
 
THe priests at St. Thomas have been there 12 years. That’s probably the max # of years allowed as established by the diocese. You could write the order but its not up to them to allow them to stay. They simply don’t have anyone else available to replace them.
If an order has responsibility for a parish, they staff it as they see fit. Usually with very little (name removed by moderator)ut from the diocese.

In this case, it sounds like the Franciscans are turning the parish back over to the diocese…like the Holy Ghost fathers did a few years ago with St Joe’s in Bay City…and orders all over the country have done the last several years.
 
If an order has responsibility for a parish, they staff it as they see fit. Usually with very little (name removed by moderator)ut from the diocese.

In this case, it sounds like the Franciscans are turning the parish back over to the diocese…like the Holy Ghost fathers did a few years ago with St Joe’s in Bay City…and orders all over the country have done the last several years.
What’s the main reason that orders do this? Financial reasons?
 
What’s the main reason that orders do this? Financial reasons?
Usually it has come down to a lack of priests to staff the parishes.

The charism of the orders generally requires that the live in community…so two priests have to be at every parish.

They sometimes have to make hard choices. Even though a diocese like Saginaw appears to have a drastic priest shortage, it may not be as drastic as the shortage in a more rural diocese where losing two priests would mean months without the sacraments for people.

It’s all relative.

Of course, in some cases a bishop could ask an order to leave a diocese, although I find that unlikely in this case.
 
Usually it has come down to a lack of priests to staff the parishes.

The charism of the orders generally requires that the live in community…so two priests have to be at every parish.

They sometimes have to make hard choices. Even though a diocese like Saginaw appears to have a drastic priest shortage, it may not be as drastic as the shortage in a more rural diocese where losing two priests would mean months without the sacraments for people.

It’s all relative.

Of course, in some cases a bishop could ask an order to leave a diocese, although I find that unlikely in this case.
I agree that it’s unlikely that the bishop asked the order to leave. The loss of these priests is huge for so many reasons–not the least of which is that they brought strongly Franciscan values to the diocese–particularly on emphasis on service to the poor and less fortunate. (I’m not saying that diocesan priests don’t emphasize this…but the Franciscans do emphasize service in a special way.)
 
Well I don’t know him but I don’t think he’ll mind. As a blog author I’m sure he knows anything he posts on the internet is fair game for anyone to view (…and link to.). Since it started, I’ve had an RSS feed to alert me of new entries in the Saginaw Seminarians blog.
No, I don’t think he would have written that and linked to his new blog if he didn’t want people to know about it. In fact, probably the opposite. He will be in my prayers and I’m excited to read his new blog, he was great at the Saginaw Seminarian’s site!
 
Has anyone heard any news on the priest reassignments for this summer? I have heard the pastor of Sacred Heart, Mt. Pleasant is moving to Frankenmuth, but nothing else. We know St. Thomas and Sacred Heart are both open and will be challenging assignments due to siza andschools. Any word?
 
Has anyone heard any news on the priest reassignments for this summer? I have heard the pastor of Sacred Heart, Mt. Pleasant is moving to Frankenmuth, but nothing else. We know St. Thomas and Sacred Heart are both open and will be challenging assignments due to siza andschools. Any word?
Here is what my high placed sources have told me:

The two priests at St. Thomas Aquinas are leaving, their “time” is up. I haven’t heard anything about whether or not the Franciscans will provide two new priests or if they will be Diocesian priest(s).

Two priests are retiring, I don’t know who. I have a pretty good idea, but I’m not saying just yet until they say its “OK.”

They want to have the Cathedral (interior) renovation done by November of 2009. The interior renovation is part of a much larger project and I know they’re having issues tearing down the old high school. Relocating to Holy Family and using it as a temporary pro-Cathedral during the renovation hasn’t been completely ruled out, but don’t bet your life savings on it.

I also know the Bishop wants to do “something” about the difficult situation in Carrollton, but nothing has been said yet.
 
I also know the Bishop wants to do “something” about the difficult situation in Carrollton, but nothing has been said yet.
I just wanted to explain what I meant.

There are three parishes in this area: St. Josaphat, St John the Baptist, and St Matthew.

The pastor of St Matthew who was also the Sacramental Minister to St. John the Baptist suddenly went on leave from the active ministry in 2006.

Bishop Carlson appointed St Josaphat’s pastor as Sacramental Minister to the other two parishes the week after that. He now has three parishes to juggle, and it’s no small task. On Sundays, he has three Masses in four hours, and although not super far apart, the parishes aren’t exactly next door to each other.
 
The Fransicans at St. Thomas have publicly said their order will not be supplying priests to St. Thomas. I can not imagine the diocese supplying two priests there, unless they assign one of this years new ordinations as assistant. I believe the Fransicans supplies two priest because of their requirement to live in community.

I think one of the retirees is already public — the current Frankenmuth pastor ---- as I have heard about it both from Frankenmuth residents and Mount Pleasant residents, where the new pastor is coming from.

The inner-city Saginaw parishes of Holy Family, St. Andrews, and the Cathedral also announced that they are looking to realign mass times and other activities so the two priests could service the three parished. Remember, St. Andrews pastor passed away recently. The word is they are going to combine staff and programs so that all three parished can stay open and vibrant, at the request of the Bishop.

The renovation plans for the Cathedral I believe are going to be shared publlicly in early May. I anticipate great things.
 
The Fransicans at St. Thomas have publicly said their order will not be supplying priests to St. Thomas. I can not imagine the diocese supplying two priests there, unless they assign one of this years new ordinations as assistant. I believe the Fransicans supplies two priest because of their requirement to live in community.

I think one of the retirees is already public — the current Frankenmuth pastor ---- as I have heard about it both from Frankenmuth residents and Mount Pleasant residents, where the new pastor is coming from.

The inner-city Saginaw parishes of Holy Family, St. Andrews, and the Cathedral also announced that they are looking to realign mass times and other activities so the two priests could service the three parished. Remember, St. Andrews pastor passed away recently. The word is they are going to combine staff and programs so that all three parished can stay open and vibrant, at the request of the Bishop.

The renovation plans for the Cathedral I believe are going to be shared publlicly in early May. I anticipate great things.
Fr Kawka from Frankenmuth has been discussing his assumption of ‘senior priest’ status in his bulletin for a few weeks now, so that’s pretty official.

The clustering of the three parishes in Saginaw should be interesting to say the least.

I still wonder when something will be done about Bay City…a town of 30,000 people with a Catholic church on every corner it seems. Of course, the way some of those folks protect their land make clustering arrangements a pipe dream.
 
The word on the street is Fr. Randy Kelly from St. Michael Parish in New Lothrop is coming to St. Thomas Aquinas in Saginaw. I don’t know much about him (or the truth to the rumor), but those from New Lothrop are saying they will be sad to see him go.
 
The word on the street is Fr. Randy Kelly from St. Michael Parish in New Lothrop is coming to St. Thomas Aquinas in Saginaw. I don’t know much about him (or the truth to the rumor), but those from New Lothrop are saying they will be sad to see him go.
Isn’t New Lothrop in the Diocese of Lansing? I think you mean Maple Grove.

Fr. Kelly was at St Stephen’s in Saginaw once upon a time (like 13 years ago post-ordination).
 
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