News from Diocese of Saginaw, MI

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Was anyone able to attend the many Holy Spirit filled celebration of vocations over the last few days. Two new transitional deacons on Friday, 5 Seminarians receving Candidacy, as well as 5 Pernmanent Deacon Candidates receiving Candidacy for the new program and Two Religious Sisters of Mercy received Perpetual Vows on Saturday.

We are so blessed in our call to our individual vocations, be it religious, single, or married life. As we are all yearn to be continually transformed, we are always in formation. It is in this gift of Hope, we stand united in faith, hope, love, and charity. We are full of gratitude to a Loving Lord. We yearn to be stewards as Christ leads the way. All of these celebrations of vocation is movement of the Holy Spirit in this Diocese. We stand in awe and reverence.
Thank God!

lisa
 
I was at the double ordination on Friday, and heard one of the new Deacon’s first homilies (ever) on Saturday.

The ordination was a nice Mass (but they had way too many goblets for communion-eighteen).

I wish I had known about the sister (I’m guessing out in Alma), I would have made an effort to go. Oh well, next time…

It’s very nice to see the sudden surge in vocations. These current seminarians (25), although many came from outside the diocese, they will inspire those in the diocese to consider their religious vocation.

I know of two people who want to be priests, one who wants to join the Sisters of Mercy, one who is thinking if he wants to be a deacon, and another who is thinking of becoming a Brother of St. Francis.

Good luck to all of them. Bishop Carlson’s decidedly proactive approach to all of the possible vocations has been a real blessing.
 
I was at the quadruple ordination of Fr.'s Roa, Heames, Coffaro, and darn I forgot the last one.🤷
 
Karl_M said:
I was at the double ordination on Friday, and heard one of the new Deacon’s first homilies (ever) on Saturday.
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I’ve always wanted to hear the first ever homily of a new ordinand. It must be such a blessing. (I’d probably be more nervous than he.) What was it like? What was the topic?
The ordination was a nice Mass (but they had way too many goblets for communion-eighteen).
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Wow! That is a lot! That should be enough for 2000 people. Were extraordinary ministers used–or even needed given that ordinations typically have numerous priests and deacons?
 
Karl_M said:
The ordination was a nice Mass (but they had way too many goblets for communion-eighteen)
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Normally at the Cathedral there are six goblets on a tray. At this mass there were two trays of goblets. I think it was more like twelve goblets. However, it did indeed seem like a disproportionate number of goblets. The Mass was well attended, but the Cathedral was not packed out.

dioceseofsaginaw.blogspot.com/2008/08/2-more-diocesan-seminarians-ordained-as.html

I heard Deacon Thai’s 1st homily @ the vigil Mass @ Holy Family. He did a fine job and the Lord Jesus was wonderfully present in the Liturgy of the Word and the Eucharist as always…🙂
 
Has anyone ever heard of Father Reginaldo Salcedo? He’s the priest at SS. Casimir and George in Saginaw and also at our Lady of Guadalupe in Bay City. He’s a great priest:thumbsup:
 
piejesu said:
Normally at the Cathedral there are six goblets on a tray. At this mass there were two trays of goblets. I think it was more like twelve goblets. However, it did indeed seem like a disproportionate number of goblets. The Mass was well attended, but the Cathedral was not packed out.
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I thought I counted eighteen, but it may have been twelve. At any rate, it was way way too many. I think they were expecting a massive crowd, and they were too wrapped up in what was going on to have someone check the crowd and reduce the number of goblets-that’s easy to do. I was at a college Mass nearby once when we super-over estimated the attendance. Worse than that, everyone “abandoned” us afterward, and that left myself and the chaplain to consume a lot!

At any rate, I’m drifting off topic-which almost never happens in these forums, so I’d better get back on.

I wonder-does anyone know where the two new deacons will be assigned. I know David Jenuwine was living at St Agnes in Freeland, and Thai Nguyen (everyone, btw, avoided saying his last name throughout several Masses-it’s pronounced “when,” so start saying it!) lived off and on at Holy Family and St. Francis Home, both in Saginaw.

A quick response about Fr. Reginaldo-I’ve heard from people who know him from SS Casmir and George-and they love him to pieces.
 
Twelve or Eighteen…hmmm…the trays will fit eight on each in a crunch. With the Chalice that would make seventeen. I was in the cheap seats and did not count them. I will ask the sacristan this weekend, but he is a busy guy and might not remember.

Deacon Thai, or Deacon Nguyen? A sticky wicket to be sure. What is confusing about Vietnamese names is that the family name comes first, the given name last. Both Thai and Nguyen are Family names in Vietnam. If the Deacon’s name is given to us in the correct order, the proper address would indeed be: Deacon Nguyen. Some Vietnamese might present their names in reverse in order to comply with western tradition and so add more complexity to the situation. Perhaps I can corner the good Deacon and elicit a preference. Even among our own English speaking priests etc. we often are encouraged to forsake formality and simply say Father Jim, or Sister Sarah, etc. I don’t think Bishop Bob, however, would ever be correct. 🙂
 
Just as an aside, his name is Thai Nguyen. “Thai” is his first name. As was just pointed out, usually the surname is first, followed by the given name (which is why in North Korea, Kim Jung Il is the son of Kim il Sung-“Kim” is the surname).

At any rate, I’m assuming that Nguyen is the surname. I’ve always heard him addressed as Thai, and I’m assuming that come June, he’ll be called “Father Thai.”

By the way, when you corner the “good deacon” in question, ask him where he’s being assigned.
 
Hello again in the Diocese of Saginaw.

It’s been years since I’ve posted. I have to catch up on what’s happened by the posts. I must admit that I ceased going to mass at the Cathedral due to it’s say, “off-broadway” past (pre Bishop Carlson). I work at St. Mary’s and would love to return when able to Mass. I actualy live and attend Mass in Flushing.

I attended Holy Family for mass during the Christmas season (weather was poor and I couldn’t fly) and I was about brought to tears by the beauty of the church and the wonderful parishioners. Glory to God !

Is there daily mass at the Cathedral? Is there daily mass at St. Mary’s Hospital?

YIC and Thanks
 
fcpilot said:
I attended Holy Family for mass during the Christmas season (weather was poor and I couldn’t fly) and I was about brought to tears by the beauty of the church and the wonderful parishioners. Glory to God !
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The parishoners had to fight tooth and nail to keep it that way. The old-old bishop was bound and determined to renovate it, but it was late in the renovation schedule. After the congregation saw what happened to most of the other churches, particuarly the Cathedral, they protested and won. Thank goodness.
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Is there daily mass at the Cathedral? Is there daily mass at St. Mary’s Hospital?
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No, there is not. However, I think in September or October they will begin daily Mass at the Cathedral (actually, in the chapel-I don’t know where exactly that is, I think the old convent).

The St. Mary’s Medical Center Chaplain lives at the Cathedral.
 
Daily mass, Mon-Fri is set to commence on Sept. 2nd, and will be held in the St. Dominic Chapel which is in the former convent building, just east of the Cathedral rectory on Hoyt St. Enter the building thru the side entrance (west side facing the rectory and Cathedral).

The Chapel is newly remodeled, clean, simple, and quite traditional in
an austere kind of a way…some pews with kneelers (not all 😦 ), an altar (of course), a tabernacle (non-descript 😦 ), and quite large statues of Mary and St. Joseph on the gospel and epistle sides respectively.

Masses will all be @ 12:00 noon, with Fr. Bessert, Fr. Wagoner, and Fr. Rau sharing duties, as well as Deacon Pasionek who will assist occasionally and sometimes preach.
 
I was at the cathedral for the first time in a very long time yesterday. Things seemed well there…good preaching, girm-friendly liturgy, nice music.
 
frommi said:
I was at the cathedral for the first time in a very long time yesterday. Things seemed well there…good preaching, girm-friendly liturgy, nice music.
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Good to hear. Did the people kneel at the appropriate times?
 
frommi said:
No kneelers in the church, ergo…no kneeling…which from what the Bishop has published regarding the GIRM is appropriate.
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But aren’t kneelers being reintroduced throughout the diocese? (There was a discussion about this here about a year ago.)

According to the table on page 2 of this document on the diocesan website, the people are to kneel at various times:

saginaw.org/images/week12.pdf

I could find nothing else on the diocesan website that contradicts or gives exceptions to this rule. (I’m sure that it’s assumed that those who can’t kneel for health reasons are excepted.)
 
Lepanto said:
But aren’t kneelers being reintroduced throughout the diocese? (There was a discussion about this here about a year ago.)
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From what I’ve been told, kneelers will be included will the renovation.
 
Well, to put it in perspective, it’s only 1/1000th of the church’s history. Pretty quick don’t you think? I’m glad to hear of the changes.
YIC,
Kev
 
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