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Tim_Hayes
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I would like to discuss the following, The Church states in many places etc that one must be a member of the Church to be saved, or in other words tied to the Church whether the individual knows it or not.
Now Protestants have a lot of different beliefs/practices about what is right and wrong according to Catholic Teaching.
We are told as Catholics that if we die in Mortal sin then we are probably going to hell.
Many of the beliefs and practices placed upon us are considered to be mortal sin if we don’t toe the Church teaching, artificial contraception etc.
Now we know that many Protestants are committing mortal sins as defined by the CAtholic Church but not according to their belief.
We know that the CAtholic Church states that their is the possibility of Salvation for those outside the Church if they do not know the Catholic Church is the true Church, yet they attempt to live a holy life.
Anyone not in the Catholic Church, or who has left the Catholic Church, do so becasue they generally believe that the CAtholic Church is not the true Church and that somewhere along the way the CAtholic Church has corrupted real Christianity. ( Hardly anyone would leave the Church believing that it is the real true Church)
If anyone does not believe the Catholic Church is the true real Church then according to Church teaching they can be saved despite this, becasue they are ignorant of the fact that they must be in the Catholic Church to be saved.
Now the crux of the question, how much leeway does God give non Catholics to get to heaven. If he leaves a lot of leeway then objectively it is of no great value to be catholic. If their is only minor leeway then it is extremely important to be catholic.
The above question leaves us with two outcomes, if leeway is small, then hardly any protestants etc are gong to be saved and therefor it is most important that we spread the Gospel to them as outlined by the catholic Church.
If leeway is large, then there is no real requirement to spread the Gospel as outlined by the CAtholic Church.
Now I ask you, looking back at the Church historically what has been the attituded of the Church(say first 1900 years) and what is the attitude of the Church in very recent history. I for one see a big difference to what the Church emphasised and practiced hundrds of years ago as distinct from recent times, in terms of the necissity for everyone to be catholic.
But then again maybe I am going crazy.
In Christ
Tim
Now Protestants have a lot of different beliefs/practices about what is right and wrong according to Catholic Teaching.
We are told as Catholics that if we die in Mortal sin then we are probably going to hell.
Many of the beliefs and practices placed upon us are considered to be mortal sin if we don’t toe the Church teaching, artificial contraception etc.
Now we know that many Protestants are committing mortal sins as defined by the CAtholic Church but not according to their belief.
We know that the CAtholic Church states that their is the possibility of Salvation for those outside the Church if they do not know the Catholic Church is the true Church, yet they attempt to live a holy life.
Anyone not in the Catholic Church, or who has left the Catholic Church, do so becasue they generally believe that the CAtholic Church is not the true Church and that somewhere along the way the CAtholic Church has corrupted real Christianity. ( Hardly anyone would leave the Church believing that it is the real true Church)
If anyone does not believe the Catholic Church is the true real Church then according to Church teaching they can be saved despite this, becasue they are ignorant of the fact that they must be in the Catholic Church to be saved.
Now the crux of the question, how much leeway does God give non Catholics to get to heaven. If he leaves a lot of leeway then objectively it is of no great value to be catholic. If their is only minor leeway then it is extremely important to be catholic.
The above question leaves us with two outcomes, if leeway is small, then hardly any protestants etc are gong to be saved and therefor it is most important that we spread the Gospel to them as outlined by the catholic Church.
If leeway is large, then there is no real requirement to spread the Gospel as outlined by the CAtholic Church.
Now I ask you, looking back at the Church historically what has been the attituded of the Church(say first 1900 years) and what is the attitude of the Church in very recent history. I for one see a big difference to what the Church emphasised and practiced hundrds of years ago as distinct from recent times, in terms of the necissity for everyone to be catholic.
But then again maybe I am going crazy.
In Christ
Tim