NFP marketing, is promoting it right?

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babochka said:
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J_Peterson:
Absolutely without a doubt. If she get’s pregnant despite being careful there’s nothing we could do about it. Situations may change and we could change our mind and plan another.
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My husband has a theory about this. He’s pretty sure that pregnancy is actually caused by a woman holding somebody’s else’s newborn when the time is right. Once the craziness of infancy has settled in and your precious newborn is a cute, sweet, toddling menace, something happens to the hormones. The memories of your months of hell on earth soften and she holds a newborn baby with that intoxicating sweetness. Then. bam! Better buckle in for the ride. In my circles, newborns abound, so it happens pretty quickly. In some circles, newborns are harder to find.
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My husband and I thought that we would wait at least a little after getting married to actively try to conceive. We actually do have serious reasons we could cite as reasons to avoid, ones that I don’t feel the need to justify here, but if someone intimately knew our situation, they would likely agree. However, I work with Catholic schools in our diocese and am sometimes in the schools, and seeing those adorable little preschoolers (and their younger siblings when their families would come to our office) made my heart melt. My husband agreed, and we are expecting our first. 🙂

We are filled with joy, although we know there are hurdles yet to come, some that have nothing to do with the baby. NFP will be a huge help trying to get back on track once baby is born to not overwhelm ourselves since this is our first, and we have no idea what to expect. My husband and I are thankful that the Church offers NFP to couples and that, in her wisdom, it recognizes the uniqueness of each couple and each family, and allows them to discern the need and application of NFP in their own lives.
 
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NFP’s “marketing” will go a lot better when the kinds of energetic young people who are pulling in big bucks at 25 eagerly rush to provide direct support and assistance to families struggling with the kids they have now instead of waggling fingers at them for not already being pregnant again with triplets, like God intended if only they had moar faith.
 
Unless one is a party to the marriage, what the reasons for the number of children in a family may not be readily apparent.

Beware of rash judgment.
 
AdamP88 said:
It’s not at all hard to look at your posts and get that you think a couple should be always actively trying to have babies.
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I never once said that. I have said repeatedly that couples should accept children lovingly from God. If you want to misconstrue that into " always actively trying to have babies" that’s your poragative but it’s not what I said and it’s not what I think.
 
PaulinVA said:
And yes, if you take some people on this thread’s arguments to their logical conclusion, they are, indeed, advocating having as many babies as possible because they have narrowed the reasons not to have babies to nothing.
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Please show me the post where someone said or implied this.
 
ByWhatAuthority said:
I disagree whole heartedly! God does give us babies and it is up to Him.
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Barring a major miracle, no sex means no babies.

If it was just about God handing out babies, it would be irrelevant whether people abstained or not or used contraception or not. They’d all get babies anyway.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
You act like conception is some miraculous intervention by God that NFP couples are waging war against. NFP
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‘Some’ NFP couple are raging war against. But I do believe conception has a lot to do with Gods intervention.
 
J_Peterson said:
I may change my mind in the future and may choose to plan another child but as of right now it’s accidents only from here on out.
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That’s really sad to hear a Catholic call his yet to be conceived babies “accidents”. 😦
 
ByWhatAuthority said:
I never did! I only stand by what the Church says, that the reason must be a serious one.
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…and then you go and act like keeping a woman from dying isn’t a serious reason because “God provides” (except for when He doesn’t).
 
babochka said:
The Church has never attempted to provide a list of justifiable reasons to avoid pregnancy.
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Seeing as how it is such a gray area, maybe it is time for the Church to better define what constitutes a serious reason to avoid. I’m not suggesting there be a list but it could help couples to realize that not being open to children for frivolous reasons is sinful. As it is right now, most couples believe NFP is alright to use all the time for any reason under the sun. Clarification is never a bad thing.
 
babochka said:
We are called to prudence and constant discernment in each of our decisions.
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Do you really believe God is calling every couple to constantly discern if the timing is right to have a baby? Or were you speaking of just general decisions?
 
LundyLund said:
As for the OP, what I find most troubling is the OP’s self-assurance that his (or her) interpretation of Church teaching is correct, whereas the vast majority of this board’s is woefully wrong. That may be the case, but if I were faced with that kind of response, I think I would start to question whether the misunderstanding was mine.
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My understanding of Church teaching on this matter will not be swayed by a forum of strangers. What have I said that you feel goes against Church teaching?
 
ByWhatAuthority said:
Seeing as how it is such a gray area, maybe it is time for the Church to better define what constitutes a serious reason to avoid.
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I think the Church is wise to leave it to couples to decide, since the number of “serious” or “just” causes can be be as varied as the number of couples which are made up of completely unique people in various and unique circumstances. The Church has spoken to the topic a number of times and, in its wisdom, has found it sufficient to say that it is a couple’s inalienable right to make the decision, that the decision belongs to the couple alone, that any pressure brought to bear on the couple is a grave offense, that they should not be disturbed so long as they do not impede generation during intercourse, and that the “serious” reasons can be among those which not rarely arise from medical, eugenic, economic and social circumstances , while the coupe exercises the duties of responsible parenthood. (Pertinent quotes and citations in my earlier post).

If you want to see a more concrete teaching, maybe you should petition the Pope and tell him why you think the Church was wrong to not better define the terms?
 
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