No Compromises: Kansas State Bishops Declare Voting for Abortion Candidate is "Evil

[Excelency]

The Democratic Party, which has enshrined abortion-on-demand in its party platform, backed up by fighting tooth-and-nail against even the most modest anti-abortion legislation.

– Mark L. Chance.

Then you are saying the republican party has made up for starting the abortion holocaust and now everything is fine. Are you saying that fourty million murdered innocents is all fine and dandy now because the holy republican party has renounced the Roe V. Wade ruling. I don’t recall hearing that.

So it is alright to now blame the democrats for what the republicans started. I have to do some more research, but a friend pointed out that when the republicans are in the rate of abortion goes up, primarilly because there is less money in the peoples pocket when the republicans are in office. When the dems are in the rate goes down. My take is that if you want to save a baby, you MUST ignore the talk and vote for a democrat no matter how bitter that may be. this not your life we are talking about. Voting for the republicans is like voting for the nazi’s as caretakers of the Jews.

There is no argument you can offer that can relieve the republican party of this guilt. They started it and I can never reward them for it, no matter how loudly they pledge their allegiance or how high they wave the flag. They are the party of death and you cannot change that. It matters not what they say now. Charles Manson will never be released from prison, why? Because he is a murderer. I don’t want to hear about how sorry he is, that is for the ears of God. Here on Earth we cannot allow these kind of people to have influence. The republican party started the holocaust when they could have stopped it cold for all time. They said death to the unborn instead. I would break up the party if I had the legal authrority.

 

[Michael_Francis]

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[mary_bobo]

Let us remember that of the nine supreme court justices that voted on Roe V. Wade, six were republican. They had the majority, they could have stopped it but they did not. Let us also remember that Richard Nixon, a republican was president at the time. Can we also consider that since the abortion holocaust began there have been five republican presidents and eight republican terms and at this time we have fourty million dead innocents. Please tell me who the party of death truly is?

Indeed, but both of the major parties have changed dramatically since then.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Let us remember that of the nine supreme court justices that voted on Roe V. Wade, six were republican. They had the majority, they could have stopped it but they did not. Let us also remember that Richard Nixon, a republican was president at the time. Can we also consider that since the abortion holocaust began there have been five republican presidents and eight republican terms and at this time we have fourty million dead innocents. Please tell me who the party of death truly is?

Nobody saw Roe coming at the time, and could not “vet” the Supreme Court nominees for it. One can, however, look at Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito.

 

[Excelency]

“Nobody saw Roe coming at the time, and could not “vet” the Supreme Court nominees for it. One can, however, look at Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito.”

Jimmy Carter did not see The Ayatollah coming, so what, they are supossed to be ready for it, that’s why they are in the positions they are in. I do not care how much Josef Mengela repents, I would never allow him to be a pediatrician. I don’t care how much Pilate repents, I would never vote for him. It is hypocritical to focus blame on the D’s when the R’s are more guilty.

The R’s not only started it, worse they turned it over to the blood thirsty D’s who will never let this go. There is only one way for the R’s to fix this and regain their honor. They must fall on their swords. There is a slight majority in the supreme court on the Rs’ side. The party faithful must find a case to bring before the supreme court and overturn this horror before the D’s get the majority again. The R’s must take the political hit and be swept from office for a few terms. They must overturn Roe V. Wade and take the electoral punishment the ultra liberals will inflict on them, meaning, they must be willing to loose power. This way, all the disatisfied R voters will see that they have fixed what they started. All the pro life citizens on both sides will see that the R’s really are the party of life. This will erode the D’s power base and eventually they will be on the outside looking in. Given enough time they will even renounce it.

Of course, this will not happen because the R’s really don’t care about the unborn, only at election time when they can point the finger at the D’s. If the R’s were the party of life, they would have a plan in the works for the very thing I am talking about. They would have been ready for some time, but no, sorry, the little slugs can’t vote so let em be ripped out and harvested by the D’s for the stem cells. Plain fact, you vote for an R, more babies will die than if you had voted for a D. If you can say that’s not the point then you have nothing to say. Now, now is the time while the Supreme court still, has an R majority.

 

[KenEOTE]

“Nobody saw Roe coming at the time, and could not “vet” the Supreme Court nominees for it. One can, however, look at Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito.”

Jimmy Carter did not see The Ayatollah coming, so what, they are supossed to be ready for it, that’s why they are in the positions they are in. I do not care how much Josef Mengela repents, I would never allow him to be a pediatrician. I don’t care how much Pilate repents, I would never vote for him. It is hypocritical to focus blame on the D’s when the R’s are more guilty.

The R’s not only started it, worse they turned it over to the blood thirsty D’s who will never let this go. There is only one way for the R’s to fix this and regain their honor. They must fall on their swords. There is a slight majority in the supreme court on the Rs’ side. The party faithful must find a case to bring before the supreme court and overturn this horror before the D’s get the majority again. The R’s must take the political hit and be swept from office for a few terms. They must overturn Roe V. Wade and take the electoral punishment the ultra liberals will inflict on them, meaning, they must be willing to loose power. This way, all the disatisfied R voters will see that they have fixed what they started. All the pro life citizens on both sides will see that the R’s really are the party of life. This will erode the D’s power base and eventually they will be on the outside looking in. Given enough time they will even renounce it.

Of course, this will not happen because the R’s really don’t care about the unborn, only at election time when they can point the finger at the D’s. If the R’s were the party of life, they would have a plan in the works for the very thing I am talking about. They would have been ready for some time, but no, sorry, the little slugs can’t vote so let em be ripped out and harvested by the D’s for the stem cells. Plain fact, you vote for an R, more babies will die than if you had voted for a D. If you can say that’s not the point then you have nothing to say. Now, now is the time while the Supreme court still, has an R majority.

Of course if you vote for a D you will never get judges in place who are willing to overturn Roe.

 

[TexCatholic4JMJ]

Excelency,
“Plain fact” and your source for this???
Not Guttenmacker ,excuse me if not spelled correctly, but it is the
main source of statistics and certainly not right wing, it’s closely
aligned with planned unparenthood.

 

[maggiemay2u]

Why don’t you get right on that…as for me, I’ll follow the bishops’ advice and vote for life, this time, next time and every time

“Nobody saw Roe coming at the time, and could not “vet” the Supreme Court nominees for it. One can, however, look at Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Alito.”

Jimmy Carter did not see The Ayatollah coming, so what, they are supossed to be ready for it, that’s why they are in the positions they are in. I do not care how much Josef Mengela repents, I would never allow him to be a pediatrician. I don’t care how much Pilate repents, I would never vote for him. It is hypocritical to focus blame on the D’s when the R’s are more guilty.

The R’s not only started it, worse they turned it over to the blood thirsty D’s who will never let this go. There is only one way for the R’s to fix this and regain their honor. They must fall on their swords. There is a slight majority in the supreme court on the Rs’ side. The party faithful must find a case to bring before the supreme court and overturn this horror before the D’s get the majority again. The R’s must take the political hit and be swept from office for a few terms. They must overturn Roe V. Wade and take the electoral punishment the ultra liberals will inflict on them, meaning, they must be willing to loose power. This way, all the disatisfied R voters will see that they have fixed what they started. All the pro life citizens on both sides will see that the R’s really are the party of life. This will erode the D’s power base and eventually they will be on the outside looking in. Given enough time they will even renounce it.

Of course, this will not happen because the R’s really don’t care about the unborn, only at election time when they can point the finger at the D’s. If the R’s were the party of life, they would have a plan in the works for the very thing I am talking about. They would have been ready for some time, but no, sorry, the little slugs can’t vote so let em be ripped out and harvested by the D’s for the stem cells. Plain fact, you vote for an R, more babies will die than if you had voted for a D. If you can say that’s not the point then you have nothing to say. Now, now is the time while the Supreme court still, has an R majority.

 

[Excelency]

“Why don’t you get right on that…as for me, I’ll follow the bishops’ advice and vote for life, this time, next time and every time”

I really don’t know what you mean here. The Bishops say don’t vote for an abortion candidate. I’m not, you are. I am putting together a time line of Presidental terms and abortion rates. Information is not as easy to assemble as I would like but this blog “appears” to have some credible details

malkin-watch.blogspot.com/2005/01/professor-glen-stassen-interview.html

Looking at the abortrion rate on a graph would NOT indicate plunging valleys under the D’s or soaring peaks under the R’s. They do show “some” decrease under the D’s, but not nearly enough to consider the D’s as Human. My point is that a few babies will be saved under the D’s. Perhaps this would give Angels a chance to shuffle away to a safe birth, those babies who are critical to humanity, thats all. I hate the D’s just as much as I hate the R’s, but I can’t afford to make a stand when so much is at stake. I pray that on judgement day, I will see some of the babies my vote saved. You may have to visit the ones your vote sent to limbo (if if exists)

 

[maggiemay2u]

“Why don’t you get right on that…as for me, I’ll follow the bishops’ advice and vote for life, this time, next time and every time”

I really don’t know what you mean here. The Bishops say don’t vote for an abortion candidate. I’m not, you are. I am putting together a time line of Presidental terms and abortion rates. Information is not as easy to assemble as I would like but this blog “appears” to have some credible details

malkin-watch.blogspot.com/2005/01/professor-glen-stassen-interview.html

Looking at the abortrion rate on a graph would NOT indicate plunging valleys under the D’s or soaring peaks under the R’s. They do show “some” decrease under the D’s, but not nearly enough to consider the D’s as Human. My point is that a few babies will be saved under the D’s. Perhaps this would give Angels a chance to shuffle away to a safe birth, those babies who are critical to humanity, thats all. I hate the D’s just as much as I hate the R’s, but I can’t afford to make a stand when so much is at stake. I pray that on judgement day, I will see some of the babies my vote saved. You may have to visit the ones your vote sent to limbo (if if exists)

When I encourages you to “get right on that…” I was referencing this notation. “There is a slight majority in the supreme court on the (present))side. The party faithful must find a case to bring before the supreme court and overturn this horror before the (others) get the majority again.”

If you can get a case located, then processed through the districts and appellates, with the inherent back and forth action, before two of our more aged justices retire, then I’ll tip my hat to you. Besides, even if a case did go forward, that one swing vote you seem to be counting on has swung to the side of death more than once.

The blog you cite (which I rarely, if ever, use as a basis for a conclusion) is from years past. It’s remarkable the secularists haven’t been clubbing the pro-lifers with it on MSNBC, CBS, NBC, and CNN, non-stop since its publication. With such a glaring anti abort woman now on the horizon, it’s all the more remarkable. Is it possible some of the data was so slanted that it will be(or has been) discredited, so airing it would discredit the networks once again? I don’t have any independent knowledge of this, it just seems curious.

 

[THurifer2]

I work with several womens groups who do just that. And incidently, we also support women to keep their babies if that is what they want. But the key thing is, it’s what they want - we don’t force them - we give them all the options, and they decide for themselves. And we support them whatever the decision they make. These women have been through enough - what we don’t do is add to their agony by making them feel like they’re going to go to hell

Do you council them for decades after they make this decision.

Abortion is very very damaging to the mental health of a woman. You will never succeed in silencing the people of God about this travesty called. “choice”.

 

[Excelency]

Talk talk talk, words mean nothing only actions count! You sound like a holocaust survivor trying to talk me into forgiving the nazi party. Your friends in the R party are not interested in saving babies, that propaganda is to shut you up. Even if they had a majority or even a full house and senate of R’s with an R president they would’nt stop it because they know they would be swept from office. They care only for their power and their money. For me and obviously for you it is about saving the unborn but not for the politicians. When they are not kissing babies their stealing their lollipops, both sides.

Any reduction in the abortion rate is not by design of the D party, it is coincidental only. None the less, the rate seems to drop a little under the D’s. And since the R’s have no intention of stopping that which they allowed to start I see no point in voting for them. Let us be truthful now, both parties are evil but both parties serve the interest of America. To quote General Douglas Mac Arthur, I know Chang, I don’t care if he has two horns and a pitchfork, if he will fight communists I’ll use him. Most unfortunatly, if I want to save a few babies I am forced to use Chang.

 

[Filius99993]

Talk talk talk, words mean nothing only actions count! You sound like a holocaust survivor trying to talk me into forgiving the nazi party. Your friends in the R party are not interested in saving babies, that propaganda is to shut you up. Even if they had a majority or even a full house and senate of R’s with an R president they would’nt stop it because they know they would be swept from office. They care only for their power and their money. For me and obviously for you it is about saving the unborn but not for the politicians. When they are not kissing babies their stealing their lollipops, both sides.

Any reduction in the abortion rate is not by design of the D party, it is coincidental only. None the less, the rate seems to drop a little under the D’s. And since the R’s have no intention of stopping that which they allowed to start I see no point in voting for them. Let us be truthful now, both parties are evil but both parties serve the interest of America. To quote General Douglas Mac Arthur, I know Chang, I don’t care if he has two horns and a pitchfork, if he will fight communists I’ll use him. Most unfortunatly, if I want to save a few babies I am forced to use Chang.

I don’t care for any political parties whatsoever, but the first thing comes first. We cannot allow ourselves to be desensitized by the Culture of Death. And if the R’s can stop abortions from happening, I’d gladly give them my money.

 

[estesbob]

Talk talk talk, words mean nothing only actions count! You sound like a holocaust survivor trying to talk me into forgiving the nazi party. Your friends in the R party are not interested in saving babies, that propaganda is to shut you up. Even if they had a majority or even a full house and senate of R’s with an R president they would’nt stop it because they know they would be swept from office. They care only for their power and their money. For me and obviously for you it is about saving the unborn but not for the politicians. When they are not kissing babies their stealing their lollipops, both sides.

Any reduction in the abortion rate is not by design of the D party, it is coincidental only. None the less, the rate seems to drop a little under the D’s. And since the R’s have no intention of stopping that which they allowed to start I see no point in voting for them. Let us be truthful now, both parties are evil but both parties serve the interest of America. To quote General Douglas Mac Arthur, I know Chang, I don’t care if he has two horns and a pitchfork, if he will fight communists I’ll use him. Most unfortunatly, if I want to save a few babies I am forced to use Chang.

So the best way to abortion is to support those who promote taxpayer-funded abortions until the moment the child fully exits the womb? The mental masturbation necessary for one who claims to be pro-life yet support pro-abortion candidates is a scary thing to watch

 

[Excelency]

“And if the R’s can stop abortions from happening, I’d gladly give them my money.”

Indeed, so would I

“The mental masturbation necessary for one who claims to be pro-life yet support pro-abortion candidates is a scary thing to watch”

I’m forced to agree, so why do you support them? Apparently pro life talk is enough for you to support the devil in this matter, even if he is the executioner. Just wave the flag high enough and the people will fall to their knees and salute. Are you trying to ignore and exonerate the R’s? They are not going to save the unborn and you can’t force them. They are the perpetrators of this crime and because they say the nice slick things that a politician says, you say, OK, I’m alright with that. What if it comes to another supreme court case, do you think they will end it? NO, they will never end it as long as they fear losing an election, so what is it that you are trying to convince me of? BTW, when you are finished mentally masturbating perhaps you should clean the goo from your eyes and face the fact that your precious R’s have betrayed the unborn unto their deaths and will never lift a finger to save them.

 

[rpp]

Talk talk talk, words mean nothing only actions count! You sound like a holocaust survivor trying to talk me into forgiving the nazi party. Your friends in the R party are not interested in saving babies, that propaganda is to shut you up. Even if they had a majority or even a full house and senate of R’s with an R president they would’nt stop it because they know they would be swept from office. They care only for their power and their money. For me and obviously for you it is about saving the unborn but not for the politicians. When they are not kissing babies their stealing their lollipops, both sides.

Any reduction in the abortion rate is not by design of the D party, it is coincidental only. None the less, the rate seems to drop a little under the D’s. And since the R’s have no intention of stopping that which they allowed to start I see no point in voting for them. Let us be truthful now, both parties are evil but both parties serve the interest of America. To quote General Douglas Mac Arthur, I know Chang, I don’t care if he has two horns and a pitchfork, if he will fight communists I’ll use him. Most unfortunatly, if I want to save a few babies I am forced to use Chang.

Very little of this is true. One party has two pro-life candidates, and the othyer party, which has a plank supporting abortion on demand, is sporting candidate who not only support abort abortion , they support infanticide.

This post seems to be an attempt tp convince people to vote for a candidate that supports infanticide.

Get real. The only way to overturn abortion in the USA is either with a constitutional amendment or a Supreme Court Decision. It is the President that appoints Supreme Court Justices.

We need to vote for a candidate that is opposed to the murder of children; not throw in the towel.

 

[maggiemay2u]

Talk talk talk, words mean nothing only actions count! You sound like a holocaust survivor trying to talk me into forgiving the nazi party. Your friends in the R party are not interested in saving babies, that propaganda is to shut you up. Even if they had a majority or even a full house and senate of R’s with an R president they would’nt stop it because they know they would be swept from office. They care only for their power and their money. For me and obviously for you it is about saving the unborn but not for the politicians. When they are not kissing babies their stealing their lollipops, both sides.

Any reduction in the abortion rate is not by design of the D party, it is coincidental only. None the less, the rate seems to drop a little under the D’s. And since the R’s have no intention of stopping that which they allowed to start I see no point in voting for them. Let us be truthful now, both parties are evil but both parties serve the interest of America. To quote General Douglas Mac Arthur, I know Chang, I don’t care if he has two horns and a pitchfork, if he will fight communists I’ll use him. Most unfortunatly, if I want to save a few babies I am forced to use Chang.

And with all due respect, sir, I won’t tell you what you sound like.

Your rant fails to address anything logically. You saying something doesn’t make it so, and neither does the blog you cite as the source of your conclusion.

You exhort us to get a case before US Supreme Court quickly before the “eviler of the evils” takes over, Your statement shows a regrettable lack of basic civics.

I applaud you for voting for whomever you wish, I hope you will do the same for each of us who decide to vote for the only pro life ticket that has a tinkers chance in purgatory of winning.

Then perhaps, we can get a case before the USSC, after the retirement of a couple of revisionist justices, and with the appointment of strict constitutional constructionists on the bench.

That’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it.

 

[maggiemay2u]

“And if the R’s can stop abortions from happening, I’d gladly give them my money.”

Indeed, so would I

“The mental masturbation necessary for one who claims to be pro-life yet support pro-abortion candidates is a scary thing to watch”

I’m forced to agree, so why do you support them? Apparently pro life talk is enough for you to support the devil in this matter, even if he is the executioner. Just wave the flag high enough and the people will fall to their knees and salute. Are you trying to ignore and exonerate the R’s? They are not going to save the unborn and you can’t force them. They are the perpetrators of this crime and because they say the nice slick things that a politician says, you say, OK, I’m alright with that. What if it comes to another supreme court case, do you think they will end it? NO, they will never end it as long as they fear losing an election, so what is it that you are trying to convince me of? BTW, when you are finished mentally masturbating perhaps you should clean the goo from your eyes and face the fact that your precious R’s have betrayed the unborn unto their deaths and will never lift a finger to save them.

I was going to say something snarky because you sound so completely off the reservation. I cut my snarky remark and decided it was the better thing to do to simply wish you well…

Good luck, go forth and prosper…God bless you.

 

[Excelency]

I had a bloated post to refute all that has been said against my position but I am a bit tired of this bickering. I am voting for John and Sarah (full and real names not used) only because of the extroadinarily remote possibility that John will appoint justices who will be receptive to God’s will, whereas I know that Mr Obumma will not.

I feel that the R’ party has much to do to make up for this, and as President B has had war to contend with, it is no surprise that little progress has been made. To his credit at least some attempt was made to limit the partial birth abortion tactic so hailed by the D party and so he is fully worthy and deserving of the title “Excellency” bestowed upon him by the late Yassar Arafat, who foolishly abandoned the chance for peace with Israel.

 

[cathgal]

… I know that Mr Obumma will not.

Well then, there’s your answer. Simple huh?

I feel that the R’ party has much to do to make up for this, and as President B has had war to contend with, it is no surprise that little progress has been made. To his credit at least some attempt was made to limit the partial birth abortion tactic so hailed by the D party and so he is fully worthy and deserving of the title “Excellency” bestowed upon him by the late Yassar Arafat, who foolishly abandoned the chance for peace with Israel.

I know I know I know. R has much to make up for. At least things improve a tiny bit or remains the same. But if D was up there, what you think would happen.