No Demand for the TLM?

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Genesis315 said:
The fact that the total attendees of the TLM in my diocese don’t add up to the amount of parioushers at one NOM at one parish.
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That’s an interesting point of view because in many places NOM parishes have closed their doors altogether. Unfortunately, those parishioners will never have the chance to even try the TLM there, especially after the Pope has created more awareness of the TLM.
 
TNT said:
You have to understand Texas. In some places it’s a 2hr drive to the next stop light which is also the next town.
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I’m familiar with that. Sounds just like Canada. We’re geographically isolated here, too. And Canada is MUCH BIGGER than Texas. 😉
 
BlyssfulDreamer said:
I have to agree with what some others have said. I was surprised when I started going to the TLM that the attendance was so small…even on Sundays. I thought the church would be packed ot overflowing. It is barely half full and we are a good sized town.:confused:
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Maybe we are trying to compare two very different groups here. There is the group who, when asked “would you like to attend a Latin (or 1962, or however worded) Mass?” will say “yes”, but they have no clue about TLMs and indults and finding a TLM in their diocese. Then there is the other group who actually knows about the TLM and the indults and goes to the trouble of finding their closest TLM and attending.
 
paramedicgirl said:
That’s the distance for me too. I go once a month to the FSSP in Calgary. Going next Sunday. Leave here at 8 AM, Mass is at noon.
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In normal times (no detours, football games or baseball game, or extreme weather) we can get to this Mass in 1 or 1 1/2 hours because of the Pittsburgh rivers LOL. Yesterday we left at 9am and go there at 10:30 (the parkway was closed leaving the area not go into it:D ) But getting home was another situation. We got home after 2pm.

Our local parish is 7 minutes away and that includes parking. But wow is there a difference in the reverence for the Mass between both.😦
 
KathleenElsie said:
In normal times (no detours, football games or baseball game, or extreme weather) we can get to this Mass in 1 or 1 1/2 hours because of the Pittsburgh rivers LOL. Yesterday we left at 9am and go there at 10:30 (the parkway was closed leaving the area not go into it:D ) But getting home was another situation. We got home after 2pm.
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I am wondering if you are near me…
I have to leave Erie between 8 and 9 to make it in time for the TLM in Pitt. I have yet to do it, but I am thinking about it for next week!
 
PatienceAndLove said:
I am wondering if you are near me…
I have to leave Erie between 8 and 9 to make it in time for the TLM in Pitt. I have yet to do it, but I am thinking about it for next week!
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Nope we are in the other direction. The mileage is only 45 miles. Our problems are the roads. When we go to ERIE it takes us just as long to get through Pittsburgh as to go all the way North LOL.

If you do come and I pray you do make sure you get here early enough for confession. There are copies of the Latin Mass to follow there. LOL there are even chapel caps you can borrow so you can cover.
 
KathleenElsie said:
If you do come and I pray you do make sure you get here early enough for confession. There are copies of the Latin Mass to follow there. LOL there are even chapel caps you can borrow so you can cover.
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Have mantilla, will travel!
 
Texas has an indult TLM in many towns, except those in the heart of Texas. It’s too far a drive for me to tote my kids from College Station to the nearest TLM in Houston.

Too bad, because our local community is traditional-minded, very religious, and very loaded with $$$$$. They’d support a TLM parish if we had one.
 
Back to the original topic-
I think there is a huge demand for the TLM!
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Back to the original topic-
I think there is a huge demand for the TLM!
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I think there is definitely a demand, and it is far higher than most would comprehend or admit.

It is hard to gauge accurately because the desire is not something easily expressed on a direct Yes or No query. Most Catholics don’t even know the TLM is still an option, so obviously they’re not going to casually express an interest in something that simply isn’t available.

If the vast majority of the population thinks chocolate ice cream was pulled from the market 40 years ago because it was dangerous to their health or otherwise undesirable, who is going to express interest unless and until someone educates them that 1)chocolate ice cream is STILL available, and 2) it OK to express your desire for it, without others looking at you as if you are mentally ill just for mentioning you still like it.
 
universalindult said:
I think there is definitely a demand, and it is far higher than most would comprehend or admit.

It is hard to gauge accurately because the desire is not something easily expressed on a direct Yes or No query. Most Catholics don’t even know the TLM is still an option, so obviously they’re not going to casually express an interest in something that simply isn’t available.
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But there are Catholics that know it is an option. They know how to find one. But they are not interested in finding one, because they have no desire to attend.

I think it is hard for people devoted to the TLM to understand that there are faithful Catholics that are just not interested in the TLM.
 
maryjk said:
But there are Catholics that know it is an option. They know how to find one. But they are not interested in finding one, because they have no desire to attend.

I think it is hard for people devoted to the TLM to understand that there are faithful Catholics that are just not interested in the TLM.
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Take me for an example. I have looked into the TLM in both California and Florida. In both cases they were far away and at inconvenient times. Had they been more convenient I would have attended.

The only valid comparison will come when a TLM is as easy to attend as a NO. This will not even happen under this moto proprio, but it will be a large step in that direction.
 
We’ve had a TLM for years in our city (about 150,000). Well done TLM, too, in a beautiful old Oratory.

It’s not well-attended. A hundred people, perhaps?

I know people in my parish who go a few times a year for old times sake (often on their mother’s birthday or some other special occasion).

Very conservative Bishop, liturgically correct Masses in the parishes.
 
I think it is hard for people devoted to the TLM to understand that there are faithful Catholics that are just not interested in the TLM.
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It is hard for me then to understand why there has been so much opposition to this M.P. over the last two years and maybe much longer, and probably to the point of probably having it watered down to where bishops will still be in full control. What are the bishops fearing if they are convinced there is no interest?

Meanwhile I don’t see people leaving the SSPX chapels in droves to attend the NOM or even the indults. And perhaps that is why they are being persecuted.
 
Genesis315 said:
That’s good to hear. I wish there was more demand, I really do, but I just don’t see it. Talk is cheap. Where I live now and where I used to live, the TLM was available within reasonable convenience so if anyone wanted to go to one, they could easily go. The fact is, relatively speaking, not many do. By that standard, the percentage of the folks in the diocese who are demanding it are only in the single digit percentages.
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I wish we had obedient bishops here then. Disobedience to the Holy See by the Churches shepards always creates more problems.
In our area, in spite of petitions with over 2500 signatures, parishes in this area have not been given permission to celebrate TLM. This is deliberate disobedience to the request by JPII and PBXVI that it be made readily available to those who desire it. If these bishops had been obedient to the requests by the Popes, perhaps the results would have been as you have seen and the problem would not exist.
 
maryjk said:
But there are Catholics that know it is an option. They know how to find one. But they are not interested in finding one, because they have no desire to attend.

I think it is hard for people devoted to the TLM to understand that there are faithful Catholics that are just not interested in the TLM.
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I think its hard for people NOT devoted to the TLM to deal with and accept people who ARE devoted to the TLM, because the former take that as an insult to their mass and as a personal affront.

The latter are sometimes guilty of making the former feel this way. But that doesn’t explain the animosity of many Novus Ordo Catholics to this Motu Proprio.
 
TNT said:
Isn’t that one o them oxymorons?
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I must be one of those oxymorons.

I am a faithful Catholic, that really, sorry about this, couldn’t care less if there was a close TLM. I am very happy with my NO.
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BobP123:
It is hard for me then to understand why there has been so much opposition to this M.P. over the last two years and maybe much longer, and probably to the point of probably having it watered down to where bishops will still be in full control. What are the bishops fearing if they are convinced there is no interest?
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I don’t know. I have no opposition to it. It just doesn’t interest me.
 
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