You mind citing where posters in this thread have defended this theocracy you are talking about? You mind also actually naming this theocracy? The only theocracies that I can think of are- Vatican City, Iran, and I believe two small countries which I forget the names of between India and China.
I did’t revise anything what is going on throughout the world is going on here in the US which is why we are having the conversation.
I don’t need to look thats a different conversation International jihad terrorists again is what I’m talking and on US shores. Apparently you have no issue with US beheadings in Allahs name and its strident agenda, and can you prove what point it turns from good muslim to bad muslim?
I think she cant practically enforce her ban.
Thank you, but I’m not the one avoiding actually addressing points. Your comment that I directly responded to- “We haven’t proved assimilation with Islam and because of its process of conversion by the sword and being social politically inclusive in its religious practice I’d say its in conflict today with above as its definitely a contrast concern to the American way of life by insistent agenda and violence. Its incompatible without separation of Church and state. We have already assimilated to this here. We have no issue here with violent Christians killing in Gods name contrary to Americas laws and constitution. Islam began flourishing here approx 50 years ago. How many years have we been back and forth with islamic terrorism 35? This has never occured with any assimilation process. Id say we have a major issue.”
A caliphate is the point which I’m sure your not defending, its a reality with Isis and world wide radical terrorist agenda which refuses to assimilate to USA modernism in America. Can you point out where this social political religious agenda turn radical from the Quran? Thats what Americans and good muslims want to know. And hopefully we can all work it out together to avoid future international issues and those which spill to the US shore. And by freedom of speech with allows reason and often by protest to prevail. A sign is non violent form of protest.
I already responded, this is circular now.
Actually you didn’t respond to my query, you attempted to once again revise your original comment to the international level. I’d be more than happy to respond to your revised concern about the international level, but first I’d like you to explain why you’re revising your comment. Thanks.
Well Hitler has been quoted praising Islam as a good warrior religion. Many Muslims are also known to have worked with the Nazis in WW2 there were many Arab Nazi groups. Also Hitler funded German money to start the Muslim brotherhood.
It goes around and around and then waaaay out in left field.
Hah! Godwin’s Law strikes again!
Still circular we should move past the mind reading which I clarified for you. Thanks for not putting words in my mouth three times now.
All of us good Christians and muslims who assimilated here are concerned and we all need to figure out together and internationally what went wrong in this Islamic understanding which is now a very real threat on our shores. I don’t see why we can’t get to this point but would rather avoid it with relativism which doesn’t address anything. Unless thats the point?
No im telling facts. There are pictures that show Hitler being saluted by Muslim troops. There were whole batallions of Muslim troops fighting alongside the Nazis, they were some of the largest batallions.
An example of putting words into someone’s mouth would be-
No, we are having this conversation because some publicity-seeking gun range owner decided to have some fun. She obviously didn’t do it to ensure her safety or any such noble purpose.
…and which you neglected to prove, because you can’t. The US Muslims just aren’t behaving according to your script.
No, I am saying that American citizens, fully integrated into American society, who just happen to attend a Mosque, are no more a threat to the US shore than you and I are.
Of course you can. But if you run a restaurant or a bus line or a bowling alley or any other business that is open to the public, you cannot say NO MUSLIMS ALLOWED. (I don’t know if adding “RADICAL” would make it legal. Maybe it would, because anyone could say “I’m not radical.”, so the ban would apply to no one.)
Well that doesn’t speak well for what you would think of Catholicism given that a very large percentage of Nazi leadership were Catholic, it’s easy to find Church officials (not just Catholic soldiers; which you can find as well) saluting Hitler and/or giving the Nazi salute, and enough Catholic German soldiers in Nazi Germany to fill whole armies (several orders of magnitude larger than battalions).
My points are made. the continuity of my thinking is clear. And as I said pointing out the US Catholic extremism label we are all subjected to this. So we are talking a complete modernization 2014 with Islam and Catholicism in relation to “todays” constitution. And btw I never assumed what you said, I asked questions. Nor am I supporting the OP but I am thinking about the bigger conversation. Sometimes you have to allow an individual to speak to understand where they are coming from.
I will go with the words of Netanyahu, sometimes the comparison is valid. Also, there is that picture of Hitler talking to a Muslim leader that is easy to find. There is a lot of information on this factual history. And I’ve also seen purportedly Muslim allies in Nazi type of gear. I think it’s spoken of that Hitler even spoke about the genocide against the Armenians. Did he get the idea from somewhere??
So because some Nazis wore a Fez hat in WWII, that means today, in 2014, some accountant living in Hot Springs with his wife and three kids that he takes to soccer practice on Saturdays in his minivan, and who voted for George Bush in 2000, and who pays his taxes and cuts his lawn - is not allowed to go to a public business operated by Jan Morgan?