No Real Presence of Jesus Christ in Protestant Churches

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ALLFORHIM said:
Im alreaduy on another thread about that–I believe it is called Evangelicals how do you know you are saved oh wait or maybe it is faith plus works. I cnt keep track of them all:o
No shortage of threads about that though;)

Oh so I will leave that unanswered as not to derail this thread;)
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Catholic doctrine states that we are saved by God’s grace alone. It is the grace of God that give us this faith, it is faith that enables us to do good deeds towards others… Grace alone does it all in cooperation with our own free will.
 
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ALLFORHIM:
Manny could you please start another thread on this.🙂 Unless you want to change the topic of your own thread:D

No problem… back on tract.

There are times where I find the zeal of Protestant for Jesus yet for me they are missing one important part. The Real Presence of Jesus Christ, His Substantial Presence. Though hidden in the appearance of bread and wine, the Eucharist is Jesus when it becomes consecrated by the priest.
 
ALLFORHIM said:
It seems it is based on love.
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Of course.
ALLFORHIM said:
I hope you will also understand that we also love the Lord and want to please Him.
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Absolutely. 🙂
ALLFORHIM said:
When I see comments about how much closer can you get
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There are many ways to receive our Lord. But there is no way that is more intimate than receiving Him in the Mystery of the Holy Eucharist!
ALLFORHIM said:
(I may be wrong but this is how you come across)
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Please do not mistake zeal for arrogance. 😦
ALLFORHIM said:
Also, how does it make you feel when you miss the Eucharist? sad, lonely, I dont know. See we dont have that in the way we believe because we are never without Jesus.
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Did someone post that Catholics and Orthodox feel they are without Christ if they miss the Eucharist? That is an odd comment. I try to receive everyday, (give us this day our daily bread), but if I miss a day or two or three, I am not devastated and feeling the loss of Jesus Christ. The Eucharist is a beautiful and mystical grace that we receive according to the Word of God.
ALLFORHIM said:
He is with us every step of the way, loving us, holding us up during trials and tribulations, and guiding us to the truth and away from sin.
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Yes. It is a glorious thing! 🙂
ALLFORHIM said:
So you see why **we believe **we do not need to actually really drink blood and eat flesh?It is not necessary.
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The Eucharist is the focus of our Liturgy. You were not taught this way, so it is foreign to you.
ALLFORHIM said:
What is necessary is to commemorate and contemplate and meditate, as often as you want as a congregation, to remember what Christ did for us on the cross and to examine ourselves and see if any wicked ways are in us and to ask for forgiveness.
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Yes. All Christians are called to do this. Catholics and Orthodox are also called to worthily receive the Body and Blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

It is both/and----not either/or.
ALLFORHIM said:
I think both sides need to understand that we both think we are right and that will never change.
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The only problem with this statement is that one side has known “the Real Presence” since the beginning of Christianity. Even Luther accepted the understanding of the Real Presence. Not until recent history has a different understanding been set forth–an understanding that is alien to historical, Traditional, ancient, and Biblical Christianity.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Catholic doctrine states that we are saved by God’s grace alone. It is the grace of God that give us this faith, it is faith that enables us to do good deeds towards others… Grace alone does it all in cooperation with our own free will.
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that`s a biblical doctrine, not a catholic one
 
pedja said:
that`s a biblical doctrine, not a catholic one
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The Bible is a Catholic Bible. It was she who claim the 27 NT are inspired in the Council of Carthage in 396 A.D., affirm still in Council of Hippo 396, Council of Florence 1431 and finalized in the Council of Trent.

So it is a Catholic Doctrine.

There were no Protestants before those times.

Since this thread is almost derail this discussion can be found in another thread.
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The bread is at first common bread; but when the mystery sanctifies it, it is called and actually becomes the Body of Christ.
St. Gregory Of Nyssa
 
ALLFORHIM said:
I just want to say thank you to ACBishop and Cheddarsox for their comments.
I chose to say nothing about this thread because of what ACBishop said

I see no point in arguing.👍
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I think I’m with you on that one, too!
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Catholic doctrine states that we are saved by God’s grace alone. It is the grace of God that give us this faith, it is faith that enables us to do good deeds towards others… Grace alone does it all in cooperation with our own free will.
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That’s not how it works. God provided the door by His grace. We must enter in by our own faith in Jesus Christ.
 
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