Non-Catholic religions and abortion

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AgnosTheist said:
holy moly the killer! a pro-life racist! what an odd combination. šŸ¤·
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Being called a racist from a pro-death non-theist is unremarkable and irrelevent. The odd combination is how your two ideologies merge on this topic.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Being called a racist from a pro-death non-theist is unremarkable and irrelevent.
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Ahem, look at my signature. I believe in God, dude.

what is irrelevant is associating abortion views to a race.

And please label me ā€˜pro-choiceā€™.
 
What timely remarks would those be? Also what are you even talking about, the way your posts come out it makes me wonder whether or not you are debating an issue that you have no real knowledge of, you simply want to play devils advocate literally by making posts that use half truths and twist what others here are saying. If you believe in God how can you be pro choice when in the old testament God explicitly warns against the harming of women or women carrying children in the womb. God stated that his wrath would wax hotly for thee to anyone committing such an act. You must be one of those people that pick and choose what suits them in their daily lives and then rants about what does not suit themselves as being false or not really true. You cannot muddy these waters, they ARE explicitly clear.
AgnosTheist said:
thanks to my timely remarks. šŸ˜ƒ

these accusations:

ā€œwent on to have a great secular life of moneyā€

ā€œgot killedā€

were not much different from those folks who rounded up the woman (in Jesusā€™ time) shouting ā€œwhore!ā€.
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AgnosTheist said:
Ahem, look at my signature. I believe in God, dude.

And please label me ā€˜pro-choiceā€™.
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Well, God believes in life, slick. You labled me a racist without cause. I will lable you as I see fit, but I have done so accurately. Lipstick on a pig is still a pig.

As I said before, it is not your choice to make to end another human life. What god do you believe in and when did he appoint you judge and give you such authority for others much less yourself? Moslems also say they believe in God, but allahā€™s words are not from God. Qualify your god because it does not match my view of God.

Which makes my question to Valke all the more relevant as the original sin of Adam is being repeated by those who choose death for the unborn. Taking upon yourself to decide what is good and evil. You are choosing wrong.

Does your god mandate sitting on the sidelines as trains are filled with the condemned innocent? Is the indescriminate killing of the holocost taboo to associate with the indescriminate killing of the unborn? Why?

Whatever your reason, it is dismissed because you have already concluded a baby is not a human being deserving of protection if it is yet to exit the womb. Naziā€™s concluded Jews were sub-human as well. The anaology might be distatesfull, but it is accurate. Such illogic is supported only to ease your conscience in a twisted sense of personal freedoms.

No where does God give Man such freedoms regarding the life He gives without reservation. When Man takes such authority upon himslef, misery often follows.
 
fierysword1920 said:
twist what others here are saying
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nobodys perfect. some folks here also make the mistake of twisting my words. its no big deal to me. i just correct them.
fierysword1920 said:
. If you believe in God how can you be pro choice when in the old testament God explicitly warns against the harming of women or women carrying children in the womb.
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i simply dont believe in the bibleā€™s version of God. Besides, thats the same fickle minded God who ordered the butchering of infants and pregnant women. šŸ˜¦
 
Yes that is the same God, the one who over and over again over many many years gave these people that the Israeilites killed when headed for the promised land chance after chance to turn away from their iniquity.
You are really a big enough fool to challenge the decisions that God has and does make. You just proved yourself wrong, you donā€™t beleive in God you beleive in some fictional God that you have made up that fits in with what you want to believe. End of story, you proved it your own self. God cannot be fickle when he is the creator of all things and cannot be wrong either. Donā€™t talk baby gibberish nonsense here, yor just wasting peoples time!
AgnosTheist said:
nobodys perfect. some folks here also make the mistake of twisting my words. its no big deal to me. i just correct them.

i simply dont believe in your version of God. Besides, thats the same fickle minded God who ordered the butchering of infants and pregnant women. Is God really that cruel? I hope not. šŸ˜¦
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fierysword1920 said:
Yes that is the same God, the one who over and over again over many many years gave these people that the Israeilites killed when headed for the promised land chance after chance to turn away from their iniquity.
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You dont know what you are talking about. Please look up ā€˜Amalekitesā€™. Even our reputable friend here, Contarini, sees something very wrong in the literal implications of the accounts. There were no chances given. Rather the reason given for the genocide was very cheesy. Look it up.
fierysword1920 said:
You are really a big enough fool to challenge the decisions that God has and does make. You just proved yourself wrong, you donā€™t beleive in God you beleive in some fictional God that you have made up that fits in with what you want to believe. End of story, you proved it your own self. God cannot be fickle when he is the creator of all things and cannot be wrong either. Donā€™t talk baby gibberish nonsense here, yor just wasting peoples time!
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Sorry, I see your god as fictional too. What makes something fictional? Its the ridiculous, contradictory, and fairy tale depictions of an object. Like the God of the bible.

The God I believe in has no depictions at all. Thats why Im a Theistic AGNOSTIC. The divine can only be fictional if there is really no God at all.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Being called a racist from a pro-death non-theist is unremarkable and irrelevent. The odd combination is how your two ideologies merge on this topic.
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your poor use of language aside, I never stated my position here. I simply responded to a post that alluded to the fact that God has plans for everything as proof that abortion is wrong.
 
Believe whatever lies you want, I donā€™t care and I donā€™t need to look up anything because I have already read the Bible. Good for you being an atheist, it must make you feel very big and important in your smugness to blaspheme Almighty God and conjure up your own theology, you must be some sort of genius that the rest of us dummies just cant comprehend you in your glory. Sorry Iā€™m not smart enough to get you. I suppose iā€™ll just have to continue being humble and believing in the lord because I am too stupid to know better. Congratulations to you on being so evolved beyond the rest of us:thumbsup:
AgnosTheist said:
You dont know what you are talking about. Please look up ā€˜Amalekitesā€™. Even our reputable friend here, Contarini, sees something very wrong in the literal implications of the accounts. There were no chances given. Rather the reason given for the genocide was very cheesy. Look it up.

Sorry, I see your god as fictional too. What makes something fictional? Its the ridiculous, contradictory, and fairy tale depictions of an object. Like the God of the bible.

The God I believe in has no depictions at all. Thats why Im a Theistic AGNOSTIC. The divine can only be fictional if there is really no God at all.
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AgnosTheist said:
then you dont know your God well enough.
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Such quips from someone who does not know God at allā€¦is tiresome.
associating abortion views to a race is not cause enough? oh my goodness. :rolleyes:
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I can see how warped your view is if you comprehend my comments as associating abortion with race. I asked a self professed Jew how his theology, in consideration of common Jewish history- squared with such disregard for human life as a pro-abortion advocates do. Race has nothing to do with it unless you associate all Jews with being Semites.

You take offense at being labled pro-death, but do not recognize the offense such a position as abortion on demand is causing society. It cheapens human life for the living as well as the unborn.
 
AgnosTheist said:
Thats why Im a Theistic AGNOSTIC. The divine can only be fictional if there is really no God at all.
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So the divine can be true if there is really a God. The corollary of your statement ā€¦ so in essence you have said nothing at all. You are amazingly consistent.
 
Verisimilitude said:
You take offense at being labled pro-death, but do not recognize the offense such a position as abortion on demand is causing society. It cheapens human life for the living as well as the unborn.
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So does war. Why are so many Christians in favor of War and Capital Punishment yet declare themselves Pro-Life?
 
notself said:
So does war. Why are so many Christians in favor of War and Capital Punishment yet declare themselves Pro-Life?
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O course one can . Abortion is an abject evil that can never be jusified. War and Captial Punishment are not intrinsicly evil in and of themsleves. That is not only my view but the View of the Catholic Church.

I know you are going to disagree with this as claiming there is moral equivalenct between abortion and the other issues you mentioned is the prime tactic of those who rationalize supporting piliticans who aid and abette the slaughter of our children.
 
Verisimilitude said:
Such quips from someone who does not know God at allā€¦is tiresome.
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You are in denial. You appear to be smart enough to know that I know some biblical depictions of its God.
Verisimilitude said:
I can see how warped your view is if you comprehend my comments as associating abortion with race. I asked a self professed Jew how his theology, in consideration of common Jewish history- squared with such disregard for human life as a pro-abortion advocates do. Race has nothing to do with it unless you associate all Jews with being Semites.
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I dont recall you going into that detail. Even Valke2 saw your statement negatively which is why he advised you to show it to a priest.

Stop making excuses. Admit to your faults.
Verisimilitude said:
It cheapens human life for the living as well as the unborn.
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i wasnt really offended. it was inacurate though.
 
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