It’s not really very practical to enforce this law. Is North Carolina going to make everyone carry a copy of their birth certificate around with them? And the bad publicity is going to start impacting the state’s economy. Even tourists will not want to go to these states (although I’m not sure what there is for a tourist to see in North Carolina or Mississippi):What is the process of changing your birth certificate gender?
To me this bill is common sense.
(CNN)North Carolina and Mississippi’s controversial new laws affecting LGBT rights are already threatening to cost the U.S. states millions in lost business and tourism.
That situation could be set to worsen after the UK government updated foreign travel advice warning British citizens about risks visiting America’s south.
The update issued by the UK Foreign Office on its website under the heading of “local laws and customs,” highlights potential problems for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LBGT) people.
“The U.S. is an extremely diverse society and attitudes towards LGBT people differ hugely across the country,” it says. “LGBT travelers may be affected by legislation passed recently in the states of North Carolina and Mississippi.”
cnn.com/2016/04/21/travel/uk-lgbt-travel-advice-north-carolina-mississippi/The warning comes just ahead of President Obama and Michelle Obama’s visit to the UK to celebrate Queen Elizabeth’s 90th birthday.
The bad publicity will last a couple weeks and then things will be back to normal. Just like every other faux outrage of this society. They get so worked up over some outrages injustice and then move onto the next thing in two weeks.It’s not really very practical to enforce this law. Is North Carolina going to make everyone carry a copy of their birth certificate around with them? And the bad publicity is going to start impacting the state’s economy. Even tourists will not want to go to these states (although I’m not sure what there is for a tourist to see in North Carolina or Mississippi):
cnn.com/2016/04/21/travel/uk-lgbt-travel-advice-north-carolina-mississippi/
What if you don’t look like either one? I’ve seen people whose gender is not at all easy to tell.Nothing will change in the state. If you look like a woman, you will use the women’s bathroom. If you look like a man, you will use the men’s restroom.
Then people aren’t going to care.What if you don’t look like either one? I’ve seen people whose gender is not at all easy to tell.
It reminds me of an episode they had on the TV show Bones a while back where there was a visiting doctor from Japan at the Jeffersonian where Bones worked and the staff were all speculating among themselves about whether this visiting doctor was a man or a woman since they couldn’t tell.
As I’ve said, nothing but bigotry can explain any objection to adult, biological men sharing a public restroom with a pre-teen girl, nothing but bigotry.It’s not really very practical to enforce this law. Is North Carolina going to make everyone carry a copy of their birth certificate around with them? And the bad publicity is going to start impacting the state’s economy. Even tourists will not want to go to these states (although I’m not sure what there is for a tourist to see in North Carolina or Mississippi):
You are promoting the economic fallacy of the broken window theory. The broken window theory claims that a broken window is good for the economy because the man with the broken window has to fix the window, so the carpenter has a job. But this fallacy is exposed when you consider what you don’t see, that the man was going to use that money to buy a new watch, or toaster, or microwave, but can’t because that money went for a new window. The watchmaker or appliance maker has lost income they would have made without the broken window.My favorite solution is individual bathrooms. One toilet and washstand each. This would accomplish many things. No worrying about who the others in the room are and what their intentions are, people who can’t urinate when others might be Abe to hear them don’t have to worry, plumbers will have lots of jobs, as will decorators, electricians, carpenters, and other tradesmen, creating a temporary increase in the economy and tax revenue. A win win win.
:tsktsk:As I’ve said, nothing but bigotry can explain any objection to adult, biological men sharing a public restroom with a pre-teen girl, nothing but bigotry.
Transgender people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want, Donald Trump said Thursday.
politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-transgender-bathrooms-222257“There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go. They use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate,” Trump said. “There has been so little trouble. And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic – I mean, the economic punishment that they’re taking.”
NBA Commissioner Adam Silver said Thursday that if North Carolina’s LGBT law remains unchanged, the 2017 All-Star Game would have to be moved from Charlotte.
Silver’s comments on the state’s controversial House Bill 2 came at the Associated Press Sports Editors’ commissioner meetings Thursday, according to attendees. Earlier in the day, Silver again called the law “problematic” for the league as it stands, but he said he’s confident state lawmakers will “do the right thing.”
charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article73086142.html“We’ve been, I think, crystal clear a change in the law is necessary for us to play in the kind of environment that we think is appropriate for a celebratory NBA event,” Silver said at the APSE event.
That comment may cost him a win in Indiana and make a contested convention more likely.Something Trump says some things that make sense and I actually agree with him on some things:
politico.com/blogs/2016-gop-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/04/trump-transgender-bathrooms-222257
Considering that Indiana has probably lost at least 60 million dollars because of its own anti-LGBT law, maybe some Republicans there might actually agree with Trump.That comment may cost him a win in Indiana.
Man does not live by bread alone.Considering that Indiana has probably lost at least 60 million dollars because of its own anti-LGBT law, maybe some Republicans there might actually agree with Trump.
If business and money are lost in order to protect potentially the safety of children, women, and men or religious freedom, then that’s the price paid. If PayPal, the NBA, Bruce Springsteen etc. don’t want to do create new jobs, do a sports event or a concert, that should be up them, but as Ryan T. Anderson puts across, people should be able to have “freedom of conscience” in regards to expressing their “artistic gifts”. If business is going to be withdrawn in North Carolina because the Governor signed a bill which could in turn save women, children and men from possible perverted persons of any “gender indentity” from abusing the ability to go in any gender bathroom they choose, then again that’s the price to be paid.Considering that Indiana has probably lost at least 60 million dollars because of its own anti-LGBT law, maybe some Republicans there might actually agree with Trump.
Many have already done that. Insurance is usually the reason given.Much more likely that businesses will just get rid of public restrooms, because most businesses don’t have piles of cash laying around that they can devote to remodeling their bathrooms.
So do you really think this law is going to prevent “perverted persons” from doing illegal things in a restroom? And what do you imagine that these “perverted persons” might do?If business is going to be withdrawn in North Carolina because the Governor signed a bill which respects natural biology and that could save women, children and men from possible perverted persons of any sexual orientation or so called “gender indentity” from abusing the ability to go in any gender bathroom they choose, then again that’s the price to be paid.
True. But that is how our GDP grows. Replacing cars, buying new refrigerators, buying the latest fashion even though all clothes are still wearable, etcYou are promoting the economic fallacy of the broken window theory. The broken window theory claims that a broken window is good for the economy because the man with the broken window has to fix the window, so the carpenter has a job. But this fallacy is exposed when you consider what you don’t see, that the man was going to use that money to buy a new watch, or toaster, or microwave, but can’t because that money went for a new window. The watchmaker or appliance maker has lost income they would have made without the broken window.
You also must look to the man’s wealth in both situations. Before the broken window, the man had $100 and a working window (net wealth $200). He would have bought a $100 watch, and then would have BOTH a working window and a watch (net wealth of $200). But with the broken window, he now has just the working window after fixed, and nothing else (net wealth $100). The man with the broken window has LOST wealth because of the broken window.
And the same is true in your example. All those businesses are effectively having wealth stolen from them. Their bathrooms will be “broken” because they can’t be used any more, and they will have to fix them or close them. The businesses lose.
Most businesses where I live have single user restrooms with a look on the door, so I don’t know why this would be a big issue for most of them. If a man used the women’s restroom in most of these businesses, he would be in there alone and the only difference would be that it wouldn’t have a urinal in it.Many have already done that. Insurance is usually the reason given.
Uh, violate women’s right to privacy for starters.So do you really think this law is going to prevent “perverted persons” from doing illegal things in a restroom? And what do you imagine that these “perverted persons” might do?
I edited my previous response to you. The law may not stop all illegal acts, but the law should still be in place.So do you really think this law is going to prevent “perverted persons” from doing illegal things in a restroom? And what do you imagine that these “perverted persons” might do?
What this law does is give people a basis for telling the 6-foot bearded man who just walked into the women’s locker room that he is not welcome, no matter what mental illness he may have.So do you really think this law is going to prevent “perverted persons” from doing illegal things in a restroom? And what do you imagine that these “perverted persons” might do?