Notre Dame Fundraising Campaign

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We already have people who band together to help those in need. They just don’t get the media attention that this gets.

Catholic Charities, Red Cross, Food Stamps, you name it.

You can find them online and give them your cc number. They’ll accept your donations.

This is an 800 y.o. place of worship from a nation which was once the most powerful nation in the world. A nation that had a young peasant holy warrior girl deliver its next king after defeating its temporal enemy. A nation that could have held onto its Holy lineage of Monarchs and its Holy Culture and Laws if it would have put the image of the Sacred Heart of Jesus on its national flag.
 
Bon_Croix said:
We already have people who band together to help those in need.
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You’re right, some people do incorporate donations into their ordinary giving. I jus don’t recall seeing anything the $600M variety going toward human tragedy… that would be such a tremendous example.
I would love to see some high profile billionaire’s drop that kind of support for war zone victims or schools and support for severely impoverished areas.
 
Holy lineage of monarchs- Holy culture.

I’m not sure what you are talking about.
 
People can care about and give to many different projects. Giving is personal.
 
TheLittleLady said:
People can care about and give to many different projects. Giving is personal.
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Fully agree…people are free. I simply believe that it would be better witness to help those in need versus hundreds of millions on an innanimate object… that’s all.
 
Matthew 26
Mark 14
Luke 7
John 12

Each of these give an account of an apostle who felt the same way as you do. The expensive oil used to wipe the feet of Jesus? No, it should have been sold and the money given to the poor. You may want to read those accounts.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Each of these give an account of an apostle who felt the same way as you do. The expensive oil used to wipe the feet of Jesus? No, it should have been sold and the money given to the poor. You may want to read those accounts.
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I made my post with those passages in mind… the feet of the actual person Jesus is what is being honored; not an inanimate object.
 
The Church has a long history of using donations from the faithful to build churches.

The Hennessey owners and Louis Vuitton guys likely want to be immortalized in their sizable donations and be part of history.

The Borgias certainly did the same thing.

Grace builds on nature- if we didn’t have these worldly donors we wouldn’t have St. Peters.
 
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Oh I agree that it would be nice to see the same enthusiasm among the wealthy in aiding the poor- it just doesn’t get the publicity.
 
godisgood77 said:
I just with we would see that type of enthusiasm and support for many worthy causes - in many cases more worthy and dire - in my humble opinion of course
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Makes me wonder, how much attention do you pay to disasters.

When natural disasters take place, there are so many world wide fundraising efforts that there is an actual industry of “fake fundraisers” to scam money from people.

For causes such as cancer, AIDS, Autism, I could literally participate in a fundraiser every single week for a different cause.

Things like Charity Water and Water project, Heifer International, Tom’s Shoes, charity has become it’s own multi billion dollar industry.
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To your comment about funding the building of St Peter’s… I hope the Church isn’t selling indulgences again
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This is an uncharitable comment. People can donate to St Peter’s and St Peter’s (and any other parish) can raise funds.
 
TheLittleLady said:
Makes me wonder, how much attention do you pay to disasters.
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I’m happy to discuss this… I pay attention and target my donations to organizations I trust and tend to focus on local efforts to help impoverished families.
TheLittleLady said:
This is an uncharitable comment. People can donate to St Peter’s and St Peter’s (and any other parish) can raise funds.
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I did not mean that to be uncharitable. The building of St Peter’s in the 1600’s was significantly funded by the selling of indulgences… Feanor2 mentioned that we wouldn’t have St Peters if it weren’t for worldly donors… making it a much different - that’s all.
 
I have an admittedly ignorant question…
What role does insurance play in this? The building if I am not mistaken is owned by the state and leased by the diocese. I’m ignorant of french law or even insurance claims but is there any sort of coverage here and if not why not?
 
Selling is the key word used by church haters. In truth, every indulgence requires a good deed.
 
Bon_Croix said:
Selling is the key word used by church haters. In truth, every indulgence requires a good deed.
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Not true… the abuse of selling indulgences was addressed by the Council of Trent. The Church addressed the selling of indulgences, not the haters.
 
Could you explain what you consider “an indulgence” to be?
 
www.ibtimes.com

The Church In Decline: France’s Vanishing Catholics

Very few French citizens, an estimated 5 percent of the country, regularly attend Mass.
www.ibtimes.com www.ibtimes.com

ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Religion_in_France.html

I would like to tie this in with GodIsGood77’s initial thought of all the money going to rebuild Notre Dame. The angle I’m coming from is Notre Dame a House of God for the French or is it a money making tourist attraction for a non-religious people. Read the stats in the two articles I listed here, think of the culture in France - you decide.

Not sure why the second webpage didn’t come out as nicely as the first but the line starting with ipfs.io is another website filled with good statistics on France’s religious culture.
 
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