Notre Dame, Jesuit colleges welcome HHS mandate ‘compromise’

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"The University of Notre Dame and the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities have issued statements welcoming the Obama administration’s ‘compromise’ on its mandate on contraception and sterilization coverage. The former statement acknowledged ‘unresolved issues,’ while the latter spoke of ‘working out the details … with the White House.’ "

catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=13336

At the bottom, there are links to statements from Fr Jenkins and the AJCU.
 
“There remain a number of unclear and unresolved issues, and we look forward to joining the US bishops and leaders from other religious institutions to work with the administration to resolve them,” he added.

Oh yes, a number of unresolved issues. Like religious liberty.
 
Suudy said:
"The University of Notre Dame and the Association of Jesuit Colleges and Universities have issued statements welcoming the Obama administration’s ‘compromise’ on its mandate on contraception and sterilization coverage. The former statement acknowledged ‘unresolved issues,’ while the latter spoke of ‘working out the details … with the White House.’ "

catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=13336

At the bottom, there are links to statements from Fr Jenkins and the AJCU.
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How can this be, when it was reported 3 days ago:
Twenty-five Notre Dame faculty members–led by the university’s top ethics expert, and including some of the school’s most eminent scholars–have signed a statement declaring that President Barack Obama’s latest version of his administration’s mandate that all health insurance plans in the United States must cover sterilizations and all FDA-approved contraceptives, including those that cause abortions, is “a grave violation of religious freedom and cannot stand."
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The statement—put out on the letterhead of the University of Notre Dame Law School–is also signed by leading scholars from other major American colleges and universities, including Princeton, Harvard, Stanford, Georgetown, Brigham Young, Yeshiva and Wheaton College.
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Prof. Carter Snead, a professor of law at Notre Dame, was one of the lead organizers of the statement, which was published on his official law school letterhead. Notre Dame’s top ethics expert, Snead serves as director of the university’s Center for Ethics and Culture, a position to which he was appointed by Father John Jenkins, the president of Notre Dame.
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cnsnews.com/news/article/notre-dame-faculty-obama-grave-violation-religious-freedom-and-cannot-stand
 
This title is rather skewed.

Father Jenkins only called it a “welcome step” and also said “There remain a number of unclear and unresolved issues, and we look forward to joining the U.S. bishops and leaders from other religious institutions to work with the administration to resolve them.”

Further, this was the statement he made before he got a chance to review all the changes (Feb. 10). Archbishop Dolan made similar comments at that time:

“Today’s decision to revise how individuals obtain services that are morally objectionable to religious entities and people of faith is a first step in the right direction,” … “We hope to work with the Administration to guarantee that Americans’ consciences and our religious freedom are not harmed by these regulations.”

Long story short, this is much ado about nothing.
 
In an interview with Dolan, he said that Fr. Jenkins received a call from the White House that morning and he called Dolan to let him know and that he had told the White House they need to talk with Archbishop Dolan about it. That’s more than some other Catholic figure did.

I think it’s an exaggeration to say that Jenkins’ statement “welcomes” the “compromise”.
 
Havard said:
This title is rather skewed.

Father Jenkins only called it a “welcome step” and also said “There remain a number of unclear and unresolved issues, and we look forward to joining the U.S. bishops and leaders from other religious institutions to work with the administration to resolve them.”

Further, this was the statement he made before he got a chance to review all the changes (Feb. 10). Archbishop Dolan made similar comments at that time:

“Today’s decision to revise how individuals obtain services that are morally objectionable to religious entities and people of faith is a first step in the right direction,” … “We hope to work with the Administration to guarantee that Americans’ consciences and our religious freedom are not harmed by these regulations.”

Long story short, this is much ado about nothing.
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I knew there was something wrong with this story, the title of the OP is completely wrong, Fr Jenkins did not review the ‘accommodation’ yet.
 
Just to be clear, as per forum rules, the title of the thread is the same as the linked article.
 
Typical ND and modern Catholic institutional mentality (same mentality of women who go for the bad boy and then get surprised when he does bad things, or men who meet a definitive woman of loose morals and expect fidelity): dance with the devil and think you won’t get hoof marks on your penny loafers; you’ll change him, he’ll be better next time, he actually cares, etc.

When are these people going to realize that Obama supported, vehemently so as a Senator, infanticide. When are these people going to realize that Obama supports, vehemently so, governmental intrusion into the affairs of the Church? When are these people going to realize that they cannot out-fiddle the devil, and no golden fiddle awaits them as a prize of victory?

“… and the devil jumped up on a hickory stump and said, Bishop let me tell ya what…”
 
Suudy said:
Just to be clear, as per forum rules, the title of the thread is the same as the linked article.
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Likewise, I didn’t intend any criticism directed toward you, just the author or publisher (whoever chose the title).
 
Jenkins is just in a horrible spot. At the end of the day, he needs to stop, take a breath and realize that he is Catholic.
 
ndalum said:
There seems to be disagreement between the Notre Dame faculty and administration.
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There seems to be a disagreement between the administration of Notre Dame and the Bishops of the Catholic Church.
 
AnotherVoice said:
There seems to be a disagreement between the administration of Notre Dame and the Bishops of the Catholic Church.
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There is no disagreement.

Take Fr. Jenkins statement:

“The widespread concerns expressed by Catholics and people from other faiths have led today to a welcome step toward recognizing the freedom of religious institutions to abide by the principles that define their respective missions. We applaud the willingness of the administration to work with religious organizations to find a solution acceptable to all parties.

“There remain a number of unclear and unresolved issues, and we look forward to joining the U.S. bishops and leaders from other religious institutions to work with the administration to resolve them.”

And compare it to the USCCB’s first statement:

WASHINGTON— The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) sees initial opportunities in preserving the principle of religious freedom after President Obama’s announcement today. But the Conference continues to express concerns. “While there may be an openness to respond to some of our concerns, we reserve judgment on the details until we have them,” said Cardinal-designate Timothy Dolan, president of USCCB.

“The past three weeks have witnessed a remarkable unity of Americans from all religions or none at all worried about the erosion of religious freedom and governmental intrusion into issues of faith and morals,” he said.

“Today’s decision to revise how individuals obtain services that are morally objectionable to religious entities and people of faith is a first step in the right direction,” Cardinal-designate Dolan said. “We hope to work with the Administration to guarantee that Americans’ consciences and our religious freedom are not harmed by these regulations.”

It seems quite evident to me that Fr. Jenkins took his talking points from the initial USCCB statement.

I know that criticizing Notre Dame is a popular sport and everything, but let’s not stop at an article’s headline and fill in the blanks with our own preconceptions. That’s exactly what the White House is counting on.
 
Compromise with evil is… evil, right? Yes.

The USCCB is just bearing the fruits of its hands-off approach of former compromise, and we get to go along for the ride. I ain’t staying on the wagon when it goes over the cliff, I’d rather fight the indians and take a chance.

Any clergy/laity which engages in compromise with evil, compromises their own soul.

This is evil. NO COMPROMISE.

Notre Dame started their compromise with Barry Soetoro when they let his infanticide promoting, evil, un-Christian, abortion and contraception approving, lying, no good, un-American, excessively taxing, did I mention lying?, butt speak at their campus a few years ago.

And now I should feel sorry for the men in charge who dropped the ball and clamored for it instead of grabbing what they have and using their man voice?

No.
 
jonbhorton said:
And now I should feel sorry for the men in charge who dropped the ball and clamored for it instead of grabbing what they have and using their man voice.
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Nobody deserves our sympathy here, least of all the bishops who pushed for socialized health care for the last 50+ years. But they are, at last, beginning to stand up (if only because they are now, quite literally, under the gun). I have seen nothing since the mandate was announced to suggest that they have lost their man voice or their nerve.

Let’s give the bishops the benefit of the doubt and form ranks with them and trust their good sense to learn a lesson from this.
 
If I throw mud, it’s at the man and not the office.

For what it’s worth, THEY jumped into the puddle and then asked, “well, gawrsh, why am I muddy?”.

I would like for them to stand up and be men, and make their presence as men in the office worthy of the office.

You can’t seriously think that trying to outsmart Soetoro is going to work, do you?

This is America, buddy; the illegal President and his illegal administration in office do what they please, and harm many. They have no desire to see a compromise, they desire a whole illegal system to be foisted upon the American people in direct conflict with the US Constitution and Catholic moral teaching. It’d be like the Chief Rabbi of Berlin trying to compromise with Hitler… maybe, kill everyone before cremation? That’s a compromise.

I won’t kowtow, nor will I give any credence to MEN who abuse and refuse to stand up and do their JOB as per the requirements of their OFFICE.

I can’t imagine Jesus compromising with Satan in the desert while being tempted. Nor do I read of compromise in the Apostles, nor do I see any compromise with heresy, apostasy, or anything else which is inherently bad in history.

When the American Catholic is ready to be Catholic, they will bear the full brunt of their decision and find out what real persecution is. I’d rather spend life in prison than compromise with evil. I’d rather die.

I will not burn incense to Caesar, and they can kill me if they want.

We are experiencing the first steps to outright socialism, and as an American, I’ll die fighting that too.
 
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