Novus Ordo Mass/tridentine Mass

[pnewton]

RC Traditional:

. Even in the valid conscecration is rendered invalid by the words “for many” changed to “for all” which corrupts the proper, valid form.

Now has God revealed this to you in a vision, or have you been consecrated to bring this special message to us?

You aren’t Pope Michael are you?

 

[RC_Traditional]

St.Joseph, Patron of Canada and St.Anne, patroness of Canada, pray for us.
I think you need to talk to a Canon lawyer on the obvious lack of understanding of the lawfulness of the Latin Liturgy and the leagality of the SSPX. Like Fr. Kramer is a canonist in the Roman Catholic church. By the way I am very faithful to the Church with its head and clergy but I have done some studying and through pray seen that a virtue called obedience can be subjected to what is called in Thomistic language, excess or defect. Your ignorance and excess is quite palpable so dont judge and dont be harsh because I have clergyman and saints who have said the samething. If you are open minded and have fraternal charity then what is there to be afraid of when it comes to Church teachings and error? I’m not afraid to say that when Cardinals such as Gagnon of Toronto and Ottaviani in 1970 were appointed to study and make conclusions of their authorized reports about the legal status of the SSPX as well as the theology of the NO that they said that there was no error in the SSPX and its founder and that the NO is a radical departure whole and in part from Catholic theology. You can ask the Vatican for transcript on these reports since I want to be honest as to sources.I usually go to google.com and key in words like the Ottaviani Intervention. Hope that helps. I submit myself to His traditional priests.Avoid papalitry and antiquarinism.! Love His Church and Tradition.Joseph

 

[pnewton]

I will stick with the Vicar of Christ, Pope Benedict XVI, my shepard, Archbishop Joseph Fiorenza and his appointee Fr. James Lynes and I have no need of protestant, schismatics or heretics. You can submit yourself to traditional priest, I will submit myself to loyal priest.

I truly admire those true traditionalist who remain faithful to the Holy Spirit’s leading of the Church, but when I give no credence to those who through there arrogance have separated themselves from the Holy Catholic Church, like the SSPX. If you search, you will find the same tired arguements played over and over again here, assuming you are not a repeat poster who has already been banned many times before.

I have to sigh and agree with Solomon. There is nothing new under the sun.

BTW - you should check the rules about promoting single-minded agendas. This is a Catholic site, not a schismatic site.

 

[RC_Traditional]

They told you SSPX has been excommunicated?
I guess to you that when it is an issue of obedience you would prefer the NO Mass with dubitable validity over the Latin Mass which has been codified forever by St.Pius V. As for the Vicar of Christ, Pope Benedict XVI, your shepard, Archbishop Joseph Fiorenza and his appointee Fr. James Lynes what diocese do they belong to? It would be interesting to know if Archbishop Fiorenza would allow the exclusive use of the Latin liturgy in his diocese IF Pope Benedict commanded to allow and IF his priests would submit to this command. Now that would be interesting because obviously the Latim Mass has no novelty or protestant admixture and many Novus Ordo Catholics would be brainwashedin thinking that this Pope is too traditional minded and not a liberal, modernist after all. Like I said I pray for the Pope and his bishops that the Latin liturgy be RIGHTFULLLY restored to its place in the Church. Joseph, a traditional Roman Catholic