Now we have a open lesbian working for the USCCB, advising them on health care! When does this stop?

[lizaanne]

I don’t know that I understand all of this – but I do know, that judgment is the wrong approach. Love and prayer will set them and us free of the pain. Whether they later change their opinions about who they are is less important than we allow God and the Holy Spirit to guide them to the Truth.

Jesus asks us to love – not to hate!

We are all called to judge - how else would we ever know the difference between sin and holiness if we never had the gift of judgment? This situation MUST be judged against what is right and wrong - there is no gray area here, how she is living her life is WRONG. Does that mean we don’t pray for her? No. Does that mean we don’t wish she ends up in heaven? No. But it does mean that this is a sign of deeper issues within the USCCB if they would employ anyone who OPENLY flaunts a morally sinful lifestyle.

Think of it this way. You own a company that makes widgets. You have an employee who hates and despises widgets and talks about his dislike for them all over town, has a sign on his car about how horrible they are, and posts on the internet about how he feels that it is perfectly ok to speak out about widgets. This guy happens to be who you go to for advice on how to run your company. Why in the world would you ever employ such a person? It simply does not make sense.

If this woman wants to do her job, fine, she can do it somewhere else. If she wants to live a morally sinful life in total opposition of the Catholic Faith, then fine, let her do that elsewhere. She should absolutely NOT be doing it within the USCCB!!! It is beyond scandalous, it is embarrassing and makes a mockery of everything the Church teaches on homosexuality.

And I want to know who within the USCCB thinks it is perfectly acceptable to have her there. Their presence there also needs to be questioned.

~Liza

 

[redrosetea]

We are all called to judge - how else would we ever know the difference between sin and holiness if we never had the gift of judgment? This situation MUST be judged against what is right and wrong - there is no gray area here, how she is living her life is WRONG. Does that mean we don’t pray for her? No. Does that mean we don’t wish she ends up in heaven? No. But it does mean that this is a sign of deeper issues within the USCCB if they would employ anyone who OPENLY flaunts a morally sinful lifestyle.

Think of it this way. You own a company that makes widgets. You have an employee who hates and despises widgets and talks about his dislike for them all over town, has a sign on his car about how horrible they are, and posts on the internet about how he feels that it is perfectly ok to speak out about widgets. This guy happens to be who you go to for advice on how to run your company. Why in the world would you ever employ such a person? It simply does not make sense.

If this woman wants to do her job, fine, she can do it somewhere else. If she wants to live a morally sinful life in total opposition of the Catholic Faith, then fine, let her do that elsewhere. She should absolutely NOT be doing it within the USCCB!!! It is beyond scandalous, it is embarrassing and makes a mockery of everything the Church teaches on homosexuality.

And I want to know who within the USCCB thinks it is perfectly acceptable to have her there. Their presence there also needs to be questioned.

~Liza

You are right a deacon told me this exact thing…Everything we do or agree to must be filtered through scripture…Forbidden actions shouldn’t be given a stamp of approval

 

[lizaanne]

Pew Sitter is also covering the story: pewsitter.com/view_news_id_26776.php

~Liza

 

[kimmielittle]

Maybe, the Good Bishops can recommend her to Mr. Obama’s team?

 

[lizaanne]

Maybe, the Good Bishops can recommend her to Mr. Obama’s team?

Did you watch the video? She’s practically got one foot on his team as it is with her connections through the SEIU!!

~Liza

 

[kimmielittle]

Did you watch the video? She’s practically got one foot on his team as it is with her connections through the SEIU!!

~Liza

I can’t load utubes etc without permission.

I read the article and posts here.

 

[Shin]

I can’t load utubes etc without permission.

I read the article and posts here.

That’s good, what little is worth watching there is way outbalanced by what is not.

It’s a cleaner life.

 

[lizaanne]

That’s good, what little is worth watching there is way outbalanced by what is not.

It’s a cleaner life.

I know you are trying to be witty, but I have to totally disagree with this. There is a vast amount of excellent Catholic content on the internet that can’t be seen anywhere else. It is unfortunate that this person can not access that content and make an informed and educated decision regarding what is and is not worth watching.

~Liza

 

[Shin]

I know you are trying to be witty, but I have to totally disagree with this. There is a vast amount of excellent Catholic content on the internet that can’t be seen anywhere else. It is unfortunate that this person can not access that content and make an informed and educated decision regarding what is and is not worth watching.

~Liza

No, I’m not trying to be witty.

I am saying so honestly. The advertised videos that appear alongside even good videos are often outrageous, immoral, and disgusting.

What organizations publish on YouTube should think of publishing elsewhere too, and there are other ‘Tubes’ that are less immoral.

Many people are not aware of how ‘near occasions of sin’ are required to be avoided for Catholics. And also, frankly, exposing yourself to these sort of stuff can put images in your mind you do not want to remember.

Turning off the TV… on and off the Internet… is of more value in general than turning it on.

People can send each other select videos separated from the junk if something is truly necessary, with little technical know how, it is entirely possible to do.

I view people who watch little to no TV as leading good, cleaner lives…

And I mean it. It feels refreshing.

 

[Tigg]

Jesus asks us to love – not to hate!

Jesus also asks us to be spiritually discerning and to recognize good fruits from bad. We are to fight against those insidious things that can harm the Body of Christ, not be so politically correct in our assessments that we allow a tainting of what we know to be morally righteous.

 

[NoWings]

And if not, get the stakes and pile on the faggots (and I don’t mean to have a barbecue for bassoonists).

Nice double entendre.

+1

 

[JacktheCatholic]

When is this going to end? How much worse does have to get before this garbage gets cleaned up??

youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-KeN0-QSE&feature=autofb

It is really making me sick to my stomach to continue to hear these stories - they are becoming more and more prevalent, and it is ever more glaringly obvious that something has got to be done.


~Liza

Something does need to be done.

These people in the USCCB that are working in the darkness need to have their deeds brought to light. I am happy to hear that some people are actually working to bring these evils to light and only pray that others will be able to See.

 

[Holly3278]

When is this going to end? How much worse does have to get before this garbage gets cleaned up??

youtube.com/watch?v=Rq-KeN0-QSE&feature=autofb

It is really making me sick to my stomach to continue to hear these stories - they are becoming more and more prevalent, and it is ever more glaringly obvious that something has got to be done.


~Liza

Something definitely needs to be done about this and all the other problems with the USCCB. What I don’t understand is why the Vatican doesn’t take action on these sorts of things and why doesn’t the orthodox bishops speak up about this?

 

[JacktheCatholic]

You’re right.

Every single person who works for the USCCB should be spiritually, doctrinally, and morally pure, and they should all glow in the dark like St. Seraphim of Sarov.

And if they don’t, fire them at once.

And while we’re at it let’s examine all the ordinary faithful, starting with you, to make aure they are pure enough, too.

And if not, get the stakes and pile on the faggots (and I don’t mean to have a barbecue for bassoonists).

So by your post we can assume that it is perfectly acceptable for an Orthodox Patriarch to be a practicing homosexual pretending to be married to another male and that it is also perfectly acceptable for him to direct the monitary contributions of his laity towards organizations that promote abortion?

 

[JacktheCatholic]

Something definitely needs to be done about this and all the other problems with the USCCB. ** What I don’t understand is why the Vatican doesn’t take action on these sorts of things **and why doesn’t the orthodox bishops speak up about this?

I agree… or maybe there are things happening that we are not with knowledge of?

I pray our Pope has been making strides to correct any evils in our Church in regards to the USCCB.

That also makes me think about our so called Catholic politicians that repeatedly vote for anti-Catholic legislation and why I have not heard of any Church action against their continued and ongoing claims of being Catholic.

 

[Holly3278]

You’re right.

Every single person who works for the USCCB should be spiritually, doctrinally, and morally pure, and they should all glow in the dark like St. Seraphim of Sarov.

And if they don’t, fire them at once.

And while we’re at it let’s examine all the ordinary faithful, starting with you, to make aure they are pure enough, too.

And if not, get the stakes and pile on the faggots (and I don’t mean to have a barbecue for bassoonists).

I suppose you think it is ok for an open practicing lesbian to be working for the USCCB? Well, I’m here to say that such persons should not be working for Catholic organizations, much less the USCCB which is an official Catholic organization!

 

[JacktheCatholic]

I suppose you think it is ok for an open practicing lesbian to be working for the USCCB? Well, I’m here to say that such persons should not be working for Catholic organizations, much less the USCCB which is an official Catholic organization!

This should be something all Catholics agree on.

It really is senseless to argue for criminals to run the Government and when you have someone openly defying the Canon of Christianity that is exactly what we have. Criminals running things…

 

[LittleBits]

When does what stop? Hiring qualified ppl 2 do jobs? I am gay, and Catholic, and I deserve whatever job I am qualified 4. I have a better question, when does bigotry and hate stop?

 

[Hesychios]

So because she’s a lesbian she can’t be an expert on health care? I mean, would you react the same way if she was an open pre-marital fornicator? It’s not like she is a practicing abortionist, which is antithetical to our health care stance.

This post pretty much sums up my position on the subject.

If it’s a secular job or contract, I think there may also be non-discrimination issues which have to be dealt with in the USA (not necessarily elsewhere).

 

[Hesychios]

You’re right.

If you are done taking unwarranted swipes at the Orthodox church, I feel that it is appropriate to inform you that the poster you have so nastily and absurdly replied to is one of yours, not one of ours. He is in communion with Rome, subject to the Holy See, and can defend that position with alacrity when called upon.

My misgivings about that choice of his notwithstanding, bpbasilphx is erudite and articulate and I usually otherwise find myself in agreement with him, this case really is no exception.