Now we have a open lesbian working for the USCCB, advising them on health care! When does this stop?

[Major_Tom]

I certainly hope that the Bishop’s don’t only consult people that agree with them. If everyone agreed with them, there would be no need for consultation, right?

Excellent point. Well said.

 

[Lethe]

Being a lesbian has nothing to do with her health expertise.

I thought Catholics were trying to be tolerant, saying only the relationship is the problem, not the fact she is gay? But that is not how these responses paint it.

Sure, she IS in a relationship, but if you had compassion and truly believed what you claim to, you would be providing support to people in her situation, not criticism. You really think it would be easy for ANYONE to leave a 20yr relationship? She should just lose her job instead?

If many Catholics truly do believe that gay people should practice abstinence, they should also acknowledge how hard that would be. Abstinence as a priest/nun etc is different - you are leading a holy life, and have a vocation, a reason to not be married. But for gay people, you are just telling them to not have sex and giving no other structure to their lives, and no support. It won’t work. At the same time, gay people, even the ones who are NOT practising, are criticised for being part of the church or of a catholic organisation.

 

[portarica]

Did anybody critically watch the video? That guy didn’t say what her capacity is, how much she really did for the USCCB or anything like that.

But he did call a bunch of people names and he did a big guilt by association rant.

Why even mention the name of her partner? What was the purpose of that? If you love the sinner then you don’t make personal attacks.

That’s the problem with the whole gay issue, the “official” policy of the church is love the sinner hate the sin, but a lot of people seem think that means we can do things that hurt the sinner because we hate the sin.

Treating the least like they may be Jesus in the guise of the least means we must treat gay people as if they were Jesus.

We don’t like it when the right wing fundamentalist evangelicals call the Pope the anti-Christ and we know it is meant as an insult, so why do we engage in that type of rhetoric with gays?

We know the church has the right to have its own policies in regards to gay people. That doesn’t mean that as followers of Christ we have a right or a duty to treat gay people in a fashion contrary to what Jesus taught about the least.

Peace

 

[Major_Tom]

When is this going to end? How much worse does have to get before this garbage gets cleaned up??

It is really making me sick to my stomach to continue to hear these stories - they are becoming more and more prevalent, and it is ever more glaringly obvious that something has got to be done.


It is beyond scandalous, it is embarrassing and makes a mockery of everything the Church teaches on homosexuality.

~Liza

I might have missed; have you shared your opinions with anyone at the USCCB?

 

[Dale_M]

Yes, this is the important fact. She’s not an employee. She’s a committe member. Did the rest of the posters not get this?.

And, according to the CNA article, she stopped being a committee member in 2006. This thread, and the original video, is simply beating a dead horse.

 

[yoopersenior]

Being a lesbian has nothing to do with her health expertise.

I thought Catholics were trying to be tolerant, saying only the relationship is the problem, not the fact she is gay? But that is not how these responses paint it.

Sure, she IS in a relationship, but if you had compassion and truly believed what you claim to, you would be providing support to people in her situation, not criticism. You really think it would be easy for ANYONE to leave a 20yr relationship? She should just lose her job instead?

If many Catholics truly do believe that gay people should practice abstinence, they should also acknowledge how hard that would be. Abstinence as a priest/nun etc is different - you are leading a holy life, and have a vocation, a reason to not be married. But for gay people, you are just telling them to not have sex and giving no other structure to their lives, and no support. It won’t work. At the same time, gay people, even the ones who are NOT practising, are criticised for being part of the church or of a catholic organisation.

Single and widowed people also are expected to be chaste and celibate. God nevers gives anyone more than he/she can bear. One has to be willing, and ask the Lord for help.

 

[StAnastasia]

If many Catholics truly do believe that gay people should practice abstinence, they should also acknowledge how hard that would be. Abstinence as a priest/nun etc is different - you are leading a holy life, and have a vocation, a reason to not be married. But for gay people, you are just telling them to not have sex and giving no other structure to their lives, and no support. It won’t work. At the same time, gay people, even the ones who are NOT practising, are criticised for being part of the church or of a catholic organisation.

Wonderful post, Lethe!