When conservative dissidents become a public scandal, it appears as if the Church is more than willing to take immediate and harsh action to silence them. Liberal dissidents generally get handled much more gently it seems to me: they have to be blatant and consistent in their vocal opposition to evoke much of a response from the RCC. Since these ‘nuns’ are presumably under an oath of obedience, why does the RCC not order them to silence, forbid them from writing or speaking at any time or any place for any reason, demand that they confine themselves for the rest of their natural lives to cloistered cells, and warn them that any failure to obey such direct orders will result in immediate excommunication and dissociation from all rights and privileges within the RCC. Take just such a consistent, hard line with dissidents on the Left and they will fall off the radar screen posthaste. (One will note that Hans Kung has been the 'Invisible Theologian for two decades, even though the BBC has interviewed him after the ascension of Ratzinger, in an obvious attempt to rehabilitate Kung and restore him to the limelight).The coalition of nuns supports abortion rights.
They argue for the primacy of conscience over the teachings of the church.
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They probably should be excommunicated for their bald-faced support of abortion and other morally illicit issues.The coalition of nuns supports abortion rights.
They argue for the primacy of conscience over the teachings of the church.
denverpost.com/search/ci_4557155
Dont forget- the gates of hell will not prevail.How better to bring down an institution than from within. If nothing public is done in situations like this, the reputation of the Church can be very much harmed.
Diabolical, they’ll go the same way as those who think they know better than the Church, plus they may find themselves excommunicated, so sad, plus scandalizing the faithful.The coalition of nuns supports abortion rights.
They argue for the primacy of conscience over the teachings of the church.
denverpost.com/search/ci_4557155
I heard it said on Catholic Radio that they, by speaking out in favor of abortion, have already excommunicated themselves.They probably should be excommunicated for their bald-faced support of abortion and other morally illicit issues.
That makes me sick. What in the world are they still nuns for?!The coalition of nuns supports abortion rights.
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Pax tecum!I heard it said on Catholic Radio that they, by speaking out in favor of abortion, have already excommunicated themselves.
**3. We encourage respect for the moral adulthood of women and will choose legislators who will recognize the right of women to make reproductive decisions and receive medical treatment according to the rights of privacy and conscience.
Dont worry brother!What is wrong with these people?
I cant begin to wrap my head around these people- sisters of the Church!- saying that abortion and gay rights are fine!
I do not doubt that but could you please cite a reference to that. Also if that is true then could it not be argued that any Priest who supports Birth Control (as they are an abortificient) could they be excommunicated too?Pax tecum!
Yes, that is true, as it is with any Catholic who does something like this. However, I really wish that excommunication would be publically announced so that it can be shown that the Church does not tolerate this type of dissent and disrespect for life. These “nuns” make me sick.
In Christ,
Rand
From ncronline.org/NCR_Online/archives/011703/011703d.htmI do not doubt that but could you please cite a reference to that.
Under a 1988 Vatican ruling, “abortion” is defined as any method used to terminate a pregnancy from the moment of conception. Abortion thus understood is always illicit, according to the official discipline of the Catholic church, and can trigger excommunication for the parties involved.
The church’s condemnation of abortion includes not only interventions to remove a fetus before birth, but the use of all abortifacients, including intrauterine devices and certain types of birth control pills that prevent implantation or stimulate uterine contractions to reject a fertilized egg. It also encompasses drugs such as RU486, called the abortion pill, which provokes miscarriages by blocking progesterone in the first weeks of pregnancy.
This expansive standard is expressed in a May 23, 1988, ruling from the Pontifical Council for the Interpretation of Legislative Texts, the Vatican office charged with authoritative interpretations of canon law. The council was responding to a dubium, or request for clarification, from a bishop on canon 1398, which stipulates excommunication as the penalty for abortion.
The ban on abortion, in the sense of the deliberate termination of a pregnancy, is absolute.
Certainly!! In fact, you could make the case for excommunication Latae Sententae (by their own act.)Also if that is true then could it not be argued that any Priest who supports Birth Control (as they are an abortificient) could they be excommunicated too?