NYC Wet Markets Still Up and Running

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I can also assure you that any desire I have to shut down wet markets has nothing to do with racism or xenophobia, and insinuating so is, as you say “incompatible with civility in a dialogue.”

In reality, leftist tactics of calling anyone they disagree with racist, bigots, homophobes, mysogenists, etc has been a very effective way of shutting down civil discourse. Civil people will just shut up and move along instead of risk being branded a racist, bigot, homophobe, etc ad nauseum.

And thus we get President Trump, who is neither a racist, bigot, homophobe, etc. However he is UNCIVIL. Half of America had enough with the bullying tactics of the leftists in the media, so we elected an UNCIVIL guy to push back against such nonsense.

(If any of these statements trigger any reader’s sensitivities to the point where they want to report this post, then please accept my most sincere apologies as I am not trying to offend but rather have a civil dialogue on sometimes difficult subjects. So please be adult enough to PM me about how/why I was so insensitive to you and/or violated the TOS).
 
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I can also assure you that any desire I have to shut down wet markets has nothing to do with racism or xenophobia, and insinuating so is, as you say “incompatible with civility in a dialogue.”
I said nothing to the contrary. In particular, I have not said a word about your motivation for anything.

And that is a hallmark of civility in a conversations - allowing others to speak for themselves rather than putting thoughts in their minds and words in their mouths.

PS I am curious: why are you bringing Trump into the thread?
 
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I never heard anything about Ebola infected items making it to New York markets. Especially since Ebola is transmitted via close contact with the infected.

Do you remember where you read that?
 
The problematic wet markets in China sell wild animals, not domesticated ones. If we’re so worried about the disease potential of poultry, we probably ought to make us old ladies get rid of our bird feeders first.
 
The problematic wet markets in China sell wild animals, not domesticated ones. If we’re so worried about the disease potential of poultry, we probably ought to make us old ladies get rid of our bird feeders first.
That bird flu was extremely deadly but difficult to contract.


You know, I don’t want to get gross, the WebMD article does say “droppings” could spread the bird flu as well. I don’t know if that would have to do though, with your Cardinals and so on.
 
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That is a convenient almost lazy argument.
Let me try:
“You think evil.” Yup! One argument fits all
 
I think that you are right about this, but this point seems to be often overlooked.
It is true that when we live in close contact with animals that we increase our odds of picking up zoonotic infections–that is, infections that come from microbial or viral reservoirs that originate in other living things rather than from the environment outside them. It is well-known that this is why people from nations that kept domesticated animals were a much greater threat to peoples who did not than the other way around. Native peoples may have lived much “closer to nature,” but they didn’t have such intimate contact as populations who had members practically living in barns.

Still, the greatest danger comes from those animal populations with which we humans don’t have regular contact. Animals brought directly from the wild to food markets pose an even greater threat, because people can come into contact with their blood products when the animals are slaughtered. Bites are something that would have a higher incidence, too, and of course there is a higher concentration of fecal matter in close contact with people and with other animals who might catch new pathogens and incubate them. If you have a market full of wild animals that are forced into living conditions close to each other and close to slaughter, you are practically setting up conditions for infectious organisms to jump from species to species to species.
 
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It was several years ago when the ebola was s bad and they were bringing patients here.

I am sorry, but I think you misunderstood. They did not find any meat infected with ebola, but they found meat that can carry ebola. So I don’t remember now what it was. @F_Marturana
 
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