Obama Admin knew millions could not keep their health ins.

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Why do people keep downplaying and justifying higher premiumns with subsidies? Where do they think subsidies come from? I don’t see the logic in their math. This literally hurts my brain trying to understand liberal logic. This truly is simple math it’s not even complicated math. God help us. Amen.
 
HoneyBea said:
Why do people keep downplaying and justifying higher premiumns with subsidies? Where do they think subsidies come from? I don’t see the logic in their math. This literally hurts my brain trying to understand liberal logic. This truly is simple math it’s not even complicated math. God help us. Amen.
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They think the rich “fat cats” should pay for them.
 
HoneyBea said:
Why do people keep downplaying and justifying higher premiumns with subsidies? Where do they think subsidies come from?
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The Fed? If they can bail out an insurance giant like AIG to the tune of $200 billion, why can’t they subsidize everyone else, mathematically speaking?
 
ProVobis said:
The Fed? If they can bail out an insurance giant like AIG to the tune of $200 billion, why can’t they subsidize everyone else, mathematically speaking?
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They seriously need to keep printing more money we are in serious debt and we need to get out of it. Why aren’t they printing…making more money? Seems rather selfish and irresponsible to me.
 
HoneyBea said:
They seriously need to keep printing more money we are in serious debt and we need to get out of it. Why aren’t they printing…making more money? Seems rather selfish and irresponsible to me.
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The dollar is just paper it has to be backed up with value by the US Government. If you print more money and it isn’t backed up 100% it loses its value its why they take money out of circulation when they print new money. They tried to print more money in the 1980s Soviet Union and it was a disaster it is also why the US doesn’t like that China floats is currency.
 
KP3243 said:
The dollar is just paper it has to be backed up with value by the US Government. If you print more money and it isn’t backed up 100% it loses its value its why they take money out of circulation when they print new money. They tried to print more money in the 1980s Soviet Union and it was a disaster it is also why the US doesn’t like that China floats is currency.
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Well then they need to keep growing it on the money trees the Feds have or wherever this place is that the Feds keep getting all this money for bail outs and subsidies. They need to make more ASAP. We are in a crisis.
 
HoneyBea said:
Well then they need to keep growing it on the money trees the Feds have or wherever this place is that the Feds keep getting all this money for bail outs and subsidies. They need to make more ASAP. We are in a crisis.
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They are borrowing money from foreign governments we don’t have any more money the only way we can spend money is if we borrow it. That is why the presidents ask to raise the debt ceiling and it is why one party is trying to cut spending and not be dependent on foreign governments.
 
KP3243 said:
They are borrowing money from foreign governments we don’t have any more money the only way we can spend money is if we borrow it. That is why the presidents ask to raise the debt ceiling and it is why one party is trying to cut spending and not be dependent on foreign governments.
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Well they need to borrow more! We can pay them back later with the money the Feds grow on the money trees. This is urgent.
 
HoneyBea said:
Well they need to borrow more! We can pay them back later with the money the Feds grow on the money trees. This is urgent.
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We have to cut the wasteful spending so we don’t borrow money we don’t need to and figure out what exactly the American priorities are.
 
HoneyBea said:
Well then they need to keep growing it on the money trees the Feds have or wherever this place is that the Feds keep getting all this money for bail outs and subsidies. They need to make more ASAP. We are in a crisis.
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HoneyBea said:
They seriously need to keep printing more money we are in serious debt and we need to get out of it. Why aren’t they printing…making more money? Seems rather selfish and irresponsible to me.
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That’s exactly what they’re doing, especially with the QE program, which the markets seem to want to have happen.

And AFAIK, Senator Warren now wants to extend the money printing directly to the consumers, not only to the banks. Or at least at the same interest rates, meaning close to 0 percent.
 
ProVobis said:
That’s exactly what they’re doing, especially with the QE program, which the markets seem to want to have happen.

And AFAIK, Senator Warren now wants to extend the money printing directly to the consumers, not only to the banks. Or at least at the same interest rates, meaning close to 0 percent.
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:bigyikes::bigyikes:
 
tomarin said:
It seems to work pretty well in Canada.
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There are 30 million people in Canada…there are over 300 million here. Half of my family are Canadian.They tell me that they actually still have to have a supplemental plan through their employer since the government run insurance only covers certain things. I am of the opinion that what is happening now with this legislation (ACA) was meant to happen.He (Obama) wants single payer and this is the long road to getting it.The problem is he’ ll need the middle class to pay for it and they are shrinking at an alarming rate. As to impeachment? Wont happen. Neither party has the political will(for different reasons) to carry it out.
 
Saw the fake apology on the news last night. Is anyone surprised that they flat out lied and then did nothing to save peoples option to be grandfathered in.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 
DeniseNY said:
bloomberg.com/news/2013-11-05/obamacare-shouldn-t-have-been-managed-like-a-campaign.html
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Good article.

This I think is the key point.
Then Ted Kennedy died. Massachusetts – Massachusetts! – elected Republican Scott Brown in an election that often seemed to revolve around the health-care bill. Democrats still pressed forward. Without the votes to overcome a Republican filibuster, ******they had the House pass a draft Senate bill that had never been meant to become law ******and used some procedural tap-dancing to push some fixes through the Senate. Such maneuvering wasn’t unprecedented, but it wasn’t popular, either. And the limitations of the method they used left the bill with all sorts of problems, many of which we are dealing with now.
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Thomas_Peter said:
There are 30 million people in Canada…there are over 300 million here. Half of my family are Canadian.They tell me that they actually still have to have a supplemental plan through their employer since the government run insurance only covers certain things. I am of the opinion that what is happening now with this legislation (ACA) was meant to happen.He (Obama) wants single payer and this is the long road to getting it.The problem is he’ ll need the middle class to pay for it and they are shrinking at an alarming rate. As to impeachment? Wont happen. Neither party has the political will(for different reasons) to carry it out.
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That is exactly what the Dems I know said back when it passed. That ACA was just the first step to getting people to go for single payer.
 
Cider said:
That is exactly what the Dems I know said back when it passed. That ACA was just the first step to getting people to go for single payer.
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Exactly how is this going to happen when the stock prices of healthcare stocks are high?
 
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