Obama and Romney Hit the Final Stretch PT 2

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epan:
I should have said… voted for Obama.

I admired GW Bush, and Bill Clinton for sticking to their platforms. Both of them were predictable, in that way. Obviously, neither of them were perfect as leaders, and if you liked one of them, you probably disliked the other one. But I am referring to the basic integrity of saying what you mean to do, and then trying your best to do it.

President Obama has not done that. He speaks vaguely, and makes the same promises he made in 2008, but did not act upon. Governor Romney changes his positions, each time the winds shift. He is obviously saying whatever he thinks will win votes from his base, and from swing voters. My sense with each of them, is that they are not trustworthy, and that they are unreliable. It bothers me more that Romney is apparently untruthful, when he really has no cause to be. Lying is far too easy for him, in my opinion. That only comes with practice, and appears to be a pattern of behavior. I can’t stomach listening to that. He is not as Machiavellian and hard hearted as VP Cheney was, but he sends that same chill up one’s spine when he looks you straight in the eye, smiles, and tells a lie. Spooky.

This trait seems to be common with successful businessmen, and it is not an admirable one.
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ishii:
I find your last comment offensive. Please explain how you come to the conclusion that most succussful businessmen lie. Also, please give examples of when Romney lied. Not examples of him changing his position, but him lying.

Ishii
Vote pro-life.
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Absentee ballots may have been destroyed in crash
Federal officials say that absentee ballots being sent to U.S. military serving in Afghanistan may have been burned in a plane crash.
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A top official in the Federal Voting Assistance Program this week notified election officials across the nation that a transport plane crashed at Shindad Air Base on Oct. 19.
The crash resulted in the destruction of 4,700 pounds of mail inbound to troops serving in the area.
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Federal officials in their email to state election offices said they did not know if any ballots were destroyed. They also said the lost mail was limited to one zip code.
But they recommended that election officials resend a new ballot to anyone who requested one since the first ballot may have been destroyed in the crash and fire.
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Absentee ballots may have been destroyed in crash
Federal officials say that absentee ballots being sent to U.S. military serving in Afghanistan may have been burned in a plane crash.
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A top official in the Federal Voting Assistance Program this week notified election officials across the nation that a transport plane crashed at Shindad Air Base on Oct. 19.
The crash resulted in the destruction of 4,700 pounds of mail inbound to troops serving in the area.
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Federal officials in their email to state election offices said they did not know if any ballots were destroyed. They also said the lost mail was limited to one zip code.
But they recommended that election officials resend a new ballot to anyone who requested one since the first ballot may have been destroyed in the crash and fire.
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Can’t think of any time that Romney has lied, unfortunately, I can’t say the same thing about Obama.

As a Canadian watching your election, I am absolutely mind-boggled at the very, very bias press coverage. It’s downright nasty!
 
Kakieanne said:
Can’t think of any time that Romney has lied, unfortunately, I can’t say the same thing about Obama.

As a Canadian watching your election, I am absolutely mind-boggled at the very, very bias press coverage. It’s downright nasty!
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Isn’t it, though? As Hannity says, the MSM died in 2008. We deserve better.
 
Thursday was a busy day for the polls, with some bright spots for each candidate. But it made clear that Barack Obama maintains a narrow lead in the polling averages in states that would get him to 270 electoral votes. Mr. Obama also remains roughly tied in the polls in two other states, Colorado and Virginia, that could serve as second lines of defense for him if he were to lose a state like Ohio.
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“If that’s the case, a Catholic, regardless of his party affiliation, shouldn’t be voting for such a person.” Archbishop William E. Lori of Baltimore**[/SIGN]
 
Pork_Roll said:
Thursday was a busy day for the polls, with some bright spots for each candidate. But it made clear that Barack Obama maintains a narrow lead in the polling averages in states that would get him to 270 electoral votes. Mr. Obama also remains roughly tied in the polls in two other states, Colorado and Virginia, that could serve as second lines of defense for him if he were to lose a state like Ohio
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That is fantasy not reality. Romney is leading in all the polls in Virginia except for being tied in a Purple Strategies poll

Nbc/wsj/marist said Colarado was 48, 48 and the poll had a questionable racial make up with Hispanics and Whites. Sample: democrat 34, republican 33; independent 32 so democrat plus 1 when the 2008 sample was republican plus 1 and in 2004 republicans had a 9 point advantage over democrats. The poll has a tie for Romney and Obama and assumes Colarado will have a lrger democrat turn out than in 2008

Rasmussen has Romney up 4 in Colarado

Nate Silver’s Flawed Model
 
That is fantasy not reality. Romney is leading in all the polls in Virginia except for being tied in a Purple Strategies poll
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_Abyssinia, I’m sure the Obama supporters say the same about your “biased” polls. They all show that Romney and Obama are close. Their are assumptions built into each model making them all subjective. Are you actively campaigning for Romney or do you do this purely out of enjoyment?
 
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_Abyssinia, I’m sure the Obama supporters say the same about your “biased” polls. They all show that Romney and Obama are close. Are you actively campaigning for Romney or do you do this purely out of enjoyment?
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Polls are biased to somebody who does not agree them. That is why it is good to look at the sample of the polls and that is how you work out whether they are credible or not
 
Polls are always biased to somebody who does not agree them. I like to look at the samples of the polls and that is how you work out whether they are credible or not
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Rasmussen is showing a toss-up in the electoral college. I believe they and Gallup are credible. But this likely means that there will be a recount dragging this painful election on. I wonder if it doesn’t turn out well for the Obama if the leftists and anarchists will riot?
 
Polls are always biased to somebody who does not agree them. I like to look at the samples of the polls and that is how you work out whether they are credible or not
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Rasmussen is showing a toss-up in the electoral college. I believe they and Gallup are credible. But this likely means that there will be a recount dragging this painful election on. I wonder if it doesn’t turn out well for the Obama if the leftists and anarchists will riot?
 
Pork_Roll said:
Rasmussen is showing a toss-up in the electoral college. I believe they and Gallup are credible. But this likely means that there will be a recount dragging this painful election on. I wonder if it doesn’t turn out well for the Obama if the leftists and anarchists will riot?
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I think most if not all of the toss up states were lean Obama a few months ago. Obama had a lead in the national polls before the 1st debate. That debate changed momentum
 
_Abyssinia said:
I think most if not all of the toss up states were lean Obama a few months ago. Obama had a lead in the national polls before the 1st debate. That debate changed momentum
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CNN is saying it’s going to be very difficult for Romney to win this election without Ohio, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
 
EPAN wrote:
President Obama has not done that. He speaks vaguely, and makes the same promises he made in 2008, but did not act upon. Governor Romney changes his positions, each time the winds shift. He is obviously saying whatever he thinks will win votes from his base, and from swing voters. My sense with each of them, is that they are not trustworthy, and that they are unreliable. It bothers me more that Romney is apparently untruthful, when he really has no cause to be. Lying is far too easy for him, in my opinion. That only comes with practice, and appears to be a pattern of behavior. I can’t stomach listening to that. He is not as Machiavellian and hard hearted as VP Cheney was, but he sends that same chill up one’s spine when he looks you straight in the eye, smiles, and tells a lie. Spooky.
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This trait seems to be common with successful businessmen, and it is not an admirable one.
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Wow, aside from the truth Obama tells, what about, say, Solyndra? When Solyndra filed for bankruptcy, The Obama adminstration said it was from the Bush adminstration. When it was pointed out that under Bush, the loan to Solyndra was not approved, and it was granted to Solyndra under pressure from the [Obama]White House, The adminstration was silent. When it was brought up again later, Obama said it was Congress which caused the loan to be made.

When asked about his stance against the Babies Born Alive bill in Illinois, Obama said he had worked, spoken, and voted against it because it might infringe on “a woman’s right to choose.” When it was pointed out that the final bill’s language had been approved by NARAL, he again had nothing to say.

In the debates, Obama said that he was frustrated by Congress in doing some things he had promised to do right away, like work on immigration. Obama had a super-majority in both houses so he should have had no problem getting them to put through immigration reform.

All this off the top of my head without even mentioning Benghazi. Sorry, i see that Obama lies whenever it suits his purposes.

I haven’t seen Romney lie; I think at a minimum he will understand what needs to happen to allow businessmen to feel comfortable enough to expand and start hiring again. I cannot imagine his doing more harm to unborn children than Obama, and I hope he will do some good for them. And I also hope that he will be able to streamline the government in a way which will allow us to help those in need as much as possible while spending less, considering that 3 times the amount which benefits the poor directly is spent on admin costs.
 
ringil said:
CNN is saying it’s going to be very difficult for Romney to win this election without Ohio, Wisconsin, and Iowa.
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CNN is not as biased as MSNBC, but it is still biased.

Think about Candy Crowly during the debate, she actually “participated” Even if later she
apologized, the damage was done…

Then Wolf Blitzer said that she did a wonderful job :rolleyes:

In addition have any of you noticed, how the liberals on CNN in Anderson Coopers show,
like the VanJones guy, or Carville, or Gloria Borger, get so emotional, defensive when trying
to defend Obama.

And now compare the 2 supposedly Republicans, they will actually give credit when
credit is due, when talking about Obama, the liberals do not do the same.

I used to really like Anderson Coopers show, but it is all biased as well 😦

The reality checks, fact checking also lean towards Obama.

Also, look at how much if any time has been given to the Benghazi attack, etc.?

The Benghazi attack, cover up, lies is a huge deal, yet hardly any coverage at all…:mad:

The Canadian poster above is right! Sadly, she is right!

Journalism is gone in America 😦 Integrity, what???
 
Lets see CNN dispute this:

*(CNSNews.com) - In the most precipitous decline it has seen in more than a year, President Barack Obama’s job approval rating has dropped 7 points in three days, according to Gallup.

In the three-day period ending on Oct. 23, says Gallup, 53 percent said they approved of the job Obama was doing and 42 percent said they did not.*
 
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