Obama has won

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BlueEyedLady said:
It drives me crazy when people scream about how our president (constitutional law professor at an Ivy League school) doesn’t follow the constitution and they themselves have no idea what is in it or how it is amended.
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He was not a constitutional law professor at a ivy League School. He was a part time lecturer at the University of Chicago.Amazing how little people who voted for him know about him.
 
Schism_hater said:
Baloney. The Nazis instituted heavier criminal penalites for abortion. That is just fact.
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THE CLAIM One major Pro-Choice claim is that the Nazis were anti-abortion and anti-choice. Since the Nazis were evil, and they were anti-choice, then whoever is anti-choice is like or similar to a Nazi. The Nazis certainly were not “pro-Choice”, but they were not “anti-abortion” either. The Nazis believed that a woman’s body beloned to the State, and the State would decide what to do with it. The Nazis did not allow abortion for healthy “Aryan” German women, but demanded and forced abortion upon women deemed “unAryan” (i.e. Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, etc.) and “Aryan” German women who were thought to be feeble-minded, or have hereditary diseases. (Abortion in the New Europe, p.114) angelfire.com/mo/baha/nazis.html
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Your claim appears false. Any number of sources show this. I can’t believe we have to revisit this dark time of history.
 
estesbob said:
He was not a constitutional law professor at a ivy League School. He was a part time lecturer at the University of Chicago.Amazing how little people who voted for him know about him.
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And it’s been said he was not going to be offered tenure as well.
 
stinkcat_14 said:
Actually, Chicago is not an Ivy league school, and he was a lecturer, which is a lower form of life than a professor at a place like Chicago.
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I apologize and you’re right. I typed that on my phone while I was driving home (I know, I know). That was supposed to read that he was a con law prof and an Ivy League grad.

Sorry and you’re right.
 
Myqyl said:
Hmmm… I’m also a working and productive member of society and I voted for President Obama. Not all working productive members of society want tax breaks for rich people and service cuts to those in need.
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How do you know I want tax breaks for the rich and service cuts to those in need? :confused:

I donate both time, money and talent to charity. I am concerned for those in need. All of us citizens have a duty to support the needy and not just the government.
 
oldcelt said:
TPresident Obama may not be your cup of tea, but to infer that he has committed treason is way over top and out of line with forum rules.
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In your opinion. Not in mine. It is not against charity for me to state an opinion that you happen not to like or agree with. The President definitely has some things in his past that could be seen as Treason. From the facts that I have gather it seems likely he is guilty. We would never know unless we inquired. The President is not above the law and we still have Freedom of speech in this country.

Report me if you want. The moderators can decide if I am out of line.
 
Myqyl said:
Hmmm… I’m also a working and productive member of society and I voted for President Obama. Not all working productive members of society want tax breaks for rich people and service cuts to those in need.
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What is your answer to the problem of the debt, then? After increasing the taxes on the “rich” fails to do anything (other than perhaps get rid of some jobs), what do we do? You don’t want to cut. We can’t tax our way out of this (as I am afraid that President Obama is wanting to prove). What is your solution?

Peace

Tim
 
Sarcelle said:
Hmmm… I am a single minority woman and I voted for Romney/Ryan. Not all single women and minorities are addicted to government handouts.

I’d rather be a working and productive member of society.
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God Bless You! I wish more had your attitude! 👍
 
datritle said:
hahaha you guys are acting like this is the apocalypse! im embarrassed that my fellow catholics are acting like an army of rush limbaughs . this is what democracy looks like, people! the people have spoken.
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I suspect you liked the outcome. it makes it easier to stomach when your guy wins.

I don’t believe the sky is falling myself because
  1. The policies of the last four years haven’t worked, and won’t. Finances and the economy don’t work by magic and hope. I suspect we’ll see unemployment stay between 6-9% for the next four years, the stock market will crash in December when the major investors pull their money to avoid the impending cap gains increases, and there is no reason to believe the debt will suddenly start dropping, when it went up an average of 1.5 trillion per year in the first term. Quantitative easing has flooded the market with cash, and the inevitable result is going to be hyperinflation of a historically low-valued dollar. Let’s the 50% that elected the President react when the price of good spikes to record high. I can afford to pay 3 times the current price for a gallon of milk, though it will require an adjusting of our budget. The average family cannot.
  2. We control the House. Had we controlled it in 2009, we’d not have obamacare or the stimulus. If anything is to get passed, it will require some agreement on the benefit for all Americans. Anything that is too far left or right, will sit, and that will maintain the current gridlock.
  3. 2014 will see 20 democratic senate seats up for election. Historically, the GOP will almost certainly gain seats. To do otherwise will buck history. Parties rarely last more than two-terms in the white house. Bush rode Reagan in, but in general, the country wants a change. The odds right now favor a change in party control in 2016, even without considering candidates and events that will occur. The Republicans also have a more recognizable crop of young candidates than the Democrats. It is typically easier to gain recognition as a candidate as a member of the opposition party, especially in a lame duck term. The focus for the controlling party (Dems) is on the President, and the lions-share of attention goes to the opposition who can make strides a viable Republican alternative (See Obama in 2008, versus McCain who was overshadowed by the Bush legacy).
  4. The Republican party is 200 years old, give or take. They aren’t stupid. They recognize certain inroads they need to make (Latinos are the key, for me, as I fear the female vote will require too much of a sacrifice on abortion rights to maintain your evangelical base), and the fact that for two elections now, the “get out vote” campaign of the dems was much better. There is no practical reason for that to have to continue.
  5. The brunt of the already unpopular Obamacare has yet to hit. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obamacare#Effective_by_January_1.2C_2013
    I personally cannot wait to see the reaction to the mess that this is going to create for individuals, families, small businesses, large corporations, and doctors themselves. I have my insurance through the military, so the impact for me is nil, other than potential yearly premiums hikes.
  6. I believe we are in store for a major terrorist attack in the next four years.
So all in all, I am optimistic.
 
BlueEyedLady said:
I apologize and you’re right. I typed that on my phone while I was driving home (I know, I know). That was supposed to read that he was a con law prof and an Ivy League grad.

Sorry and you’re right.
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Wish id been right yesterday and wrong today!
 
This is not a court room. So I will not get into a long debate with you about this. Look up benghazi and read about what was known and when it was known and the actions that were and were not taken to protect US citizens.
 
Sarcelle said:
How do you know I want tax breaks for the rich and service cuts to those in need? :confused:

I donate both time, money and talent to charity. I am concerned for those in need. All of us citizens have a duty to support the needy and not just the government.
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I may have worded the above poorly. I mean all of us citizens have a duty to support the needy as individuals and at the grass roots level rather than sit back and wait for the government to do the job.

I remember when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. A small town in Texas had all its churches of all various Christian denominations pool its resources to help refugees who had recently come in to their town from the storm get the basics, food, water, shelter and clothing. It was very efficient and very effective. 😃
 
BlueEyedLady said:
It drives me crazy when people scream about how our president (constitutional law professor at an Ivy League school) doesn’t follow the constitution and they themselves have no idea what is in it or how it is amended.
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I drives me crazy when people call him a Harvard professor. Especially, when he wasn’t, even without seeing his transcripts.

While I agree he cannot amend the Constitution, he has shown he does not have to follow it. By simply choosing the laws he wants to enforce, and ignoring others, he is failing the primary job of the Chief Executive.
 
Myqyl said:
Hmmm… I’m also a working and productive member of society and I voted for President Obama. Not all working productive members of society want tax breaks for rich people and service cuts to those in need.
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  1. Services ARE going to be cut. or defunded. if you don;t believe that, I have nothing to say.
  2. Obama could have simply let the Bush tax cuts expire. Do nothing, and they are gone. Why are you upset about tax cuts for the wealthy via-a-vis the Republicans, again?
 
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