Would you accept shops that had signs saying “Catholics not served here”? That is effectively what you are asking for. When a person is running a business they do not get a religious exemption from the relevant laws that all businesses have to follow.
I see your point.
It is less a matter of what they deserve, but a matter of what is available. There are always more children available for adoption than there are ideal nice prosperous middle-class couples willing to adopt them. I repeat my point that a nice prosperous middle-class same sex couple is better than staying in the orphanage.
Okay, I see what you mean, Im not sure the best way to do it after it is supposed to be done, but it’s good that you agree with me that it’s only right to discriminate between homosexal couples and hetrosexual couples when adopting out, because if there is an equallity there, than some orphans would be adopted out to homosexual couples while hetrosexual couples may be waiting which would be very wrong as hetrosexual couples in marriage is the ultimate environment to raise a child, as for the rest like I said Im not sure, id like the aim to be for every child to be raised with a mom and a dad, anything else should only be done if absolutly nessecary, but homosexual couples when it comes to surrogacy is definatly wrong wouldn’t you agree?
I assume that you do not propose removing children from single parents. Given that, then you are allowing “crippled” for those children. Do you have any evidence that a same sex couple is any worse for the child than a single parent?
No, I would not remove those children, but yes they are crippled without a mom and dad, but you must understand that single parenting was not intended to be such, I doubt that single parents intentionaly set it up that way for their children, however with homosexual couples, it is intentionaly set up that way, which is wrong I think.
You appear to be looking for reasons to keep children away from same sex couples, but the reasons you are advancing also apply to single parents, and to mixed sex couples who are bad parents.
Yea, you are right, I am looking for ways to keep children away from same sex couples, as those couples are percieving that their actions are not perverse, disorderd or immoral, and in doing so the children that they raise will perseve the same thing, than what kind of view will those children have on what desires are disordered, perverse or immoral desires to act on? what is a child supposed to say to themselves about the acts of homosexuality being apparently normal? it won’t add up, how are they supposed to live their lives? what kind of example will be set when it comes to acting on sexual desires?
So, being raised by a single parent is like eating out of the garbage? You will forgive me if I find this argument distasteful.
I apologise, I said that the analogy was extreme, it was all I could think of, I don’t at all think that being raised by a single parent is like eating out of the garbage and I completely understand your distaste, I only meant, as in it’s not as good as a mom and a dad.
In principle, yes. In practice probably less detail is needed in class because only a minority will need it. The detail should be available easily for the minority who need it.
I disagree, what detail do you think they need? how would you determine what kind of perverse acts of homosexuality would be included? we all know how it is supposed to be done as hetrosexuality dictates, however the act of homosexuality is a miss use, how can you teach that?
In some cases yes, and in other cases no. There are childless heterosexual couples who are childless through choice. Similarly with homosexual couples. You appear to be trying to force all marriages into a single pattern. That is an error. People are different and the marriages they form are also different.
I agree, but the idea of marriage is family, majority of it is family based in raising children, therefore homosexual couples through marriage are also going to try and be family based in raising children, and what happens when they can no longer mimic a hetrosexual marriage through children? I believe they will either have to adopt or go through surrogacy, which will be intentionaly crippling a child through their own desire to be viewed as a family after they have marriage.
Correct. Do you have a problem with equality in law?
I do have a problem with equality when they try to equate things that are not equal, cetain aspects as you have said are equal, but in regards to marriage and family they are not equal.
Like I said, it’s a good thing to embrace homosexuals, but we shouldn’t be embracing homosexuality, what part of the acts of homosexuality do you think should be embraced and viewed as natural or normal Rossum?
Do you think they can miss use their body like that and be healthy? I am no doctor but I know that there would definatly be some unhealthy consequences to miss using their bodies like that, so when I said earlier ‘unhealthy’ it is actually unhealthy, can you find me some information Rossum that suggests that the acts of homosexuality is healthy? you said before that hetrosexuality can be unhealthy too, in STD’s/STI’s but this is not in all cases, there are many cases of hetrosexuality that are healthy, can you say the same for homosexuality?
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Josh