Seeker1961 already explained to you how the US is made up of many different people of different faiths and beliefs and how this must be taken into consideration as we go about the formation of secular *civil *law. There are as well others of no belief in God. It’s not without good reason that the US is known as a melting pot of people.
Yes I’ve read it. I’ve also read how Christians of a more liberal persuasion who support SS marriage, SS union blessings, or civil unions have come over the course of time and history to understand and interpret Scripture in regard to homosexuality differently than you and others do. BTW they believe in God and while you may believe they act under a false premise of God, they would not agree with your assessment of them nor of their beliefs. I thought Catholics were to be respectful of other faiths on this forum. Anyway I once posted an explanation of their faith beliefs and understanding of Scripture as it relates to homosexuality on the non Catholic subforum. So I won’t bother to do so here lest I be accused of trying to lead Catholics astray.
And again as Seeker said, you’re not going to change your opinion. Yet regardless of how the SS marriage issue eventually plays out in civil law, neither will you be forced to marry a gay person.
Very good you explained as Seeker did the US is made up of many different people. Good information.
We are talking “Christian” since that is what the conversation turned to in case you missed that post by Seeker and I on AMERICAN LAW.
My opinion as you say is the… Church opinion, the Word of God…Biblical, Historical, your opinion is just a…a fleeting idea that NEVER worked in history. In your opinion which we so highly value in Gods Kingdom, why will it work now? That’s another unanswered repeated question avoided. Truth is you would have to concede you do not know, nor can you prove through history.
And, oh, another very old defensive response to confrontation, Catholics are respectful and charitable. But they are not ignorant, nor does respectful or charitable equate to not confronting the difficult topics.
What in the world are you talking about with Christians, what Christians? Those who follow Rome, The Apostolic Church’s throughout the world? Mainline Protestant? Those who hold to the 7 ecumenical councils? No none of those agree with this misguided idea thrown under the title of “modern thinking”, Some who claim to be of these Faiths inject their own thinking into the Truth which has been passed down to us by Christ in His Church, which are worldwide. That’s not Gods Word, that’s their word.
Seeker said something that we need repeat his name now twice by you? I let the conversation go for the simple fact as this is not a forum for my practice nor does it have the capacity to deal with it, but to shut is down. This is not a therapeutic probe. And if you bothered to read carefully you will find I left the confrontation with two critical unanswered questions, not responded to, nothing else remained to be said by me. That was me being Catholic, respectful, and charitable out of love and concern for my brother, who I do believe I understand and care about. And I also ignored your Seeker comment last post, nothing there to respond to. Was there a specific point you would like to discuss? How about being direct instead of evasive.
So no there has been no foul, its just you feeling uncomfortable and for good reason. Btw do you have a web-sight for this Christian community you follow I’m interested in understanding it. Who are “they” you keep referring to? I already responded above about “they” who do not teach, accept, or cooperated with SS in the Universal Church. Who is this illusive “they” you refer to.
And in your usual diversion of btw “‘they’ DO believe in God” who is “they”? I never said anyone didn’t believe in God [SHOW ME THE POST]. or it should be known you are wrong.
I said you cannot prove SS marriage in Christian History nor from Scripture it doesn’t exist and has “never, ever” been taught, and I actually mention those or the “they” you speak of, to support my claim unlike you.
But yes if I were you I would have avoided that confrontation also. Its a point you either have to concede, or avoid, or use a defense to misdirect as you chose to do, and by sweeping “Catholics” with a broad brush stroke in an attempt for them to back off, with the “I thought Catholic’s were suppose to be” comment. When the truth is no-one here fell into the suggest category you mentioned for “Catholics” by your thinking of “I THOUGHT Catholics were suppose to be”
Why do feel Catholics are being as you suggested here? Please point out where, be happy to discuss. Do you have a issue with Catholics? Why do you have an issue with Catholics? Do you think you should remind them of how they are suppose to act? Personally I find that comment to be unfounded, and uncalled for… But thanks for the concern
There’s really no other point for me to make, but to correct your distraction. From here I would only be Re-Evangelizing. And that would be by effectively showing you exactly how you arrived at where you are. Its not a secret.
Now if you would like to take this thread to another point I would be glad to participate. We know how the law was established in America its already covered, and not secular as you suggested. Just to correct you there also, or defend your position with a source.
Or we can continue to discuss American Law, Christianity in America, and its relevance to SS and how we arrived at where we are. What “point” would you prefer to discuss?
