Obama vs Romney, who are you voting for and why?

[Rich_Olszewski]

Obama’s ideas are very very VERY liberal and are even beginning to look like those of Stalin and Hitler.

Stalin and Hitler were NOT liberals!

Obama is also anti-gun. With him being president for another 4 years, i won’t be able to hunt or even shoot my bow at targets.

Not at all. Obama hasn’t said a single thing about taking people’s guns away from them - not rifles, not shotguns, not even handguns, and certainly not bows. He’s been careful to avoid discussing gun ownership. Where did you hear that sort of stuff?

 

[Publisher]

You’re going to get a lot more Romney supporters because the vast majority on this forum are political conservatives.

But I’m voting for Obama: Wow there are so many reasons it’s not even close for me. Here are several but not an exhaustive list.

If we don’t change the House of Representaives, I want a check and balance to the Tea Party and much of what today’s Republican Party stands for.

Obama finally got something done on healthcare. The sick with pre existing conditions before Obamacare could be denied health care coverage. And too many people in the richest nation on earth have gone without adequate healthcare because they do not have employer health care coverage or do not qualify for Medicaid or Medicare. This has always been a disgrace to me when other industrialized countries have been able to provide their citizens with universal healthcare and the richest on nation has failed miserably at doing so. Obamacare is not perfect. I’d have preferred single payer or a public option. But is better than the status quo.

I totally reject the Paul Ryan budget which was supported by nearly every Republican. I want Paul Ryan nowhere near the White House. Like Sister Simone of the Catholic faith and the other nuns on the bus, I will not sit back and do nothing to try to stop such severe cuts to programs affecting the poor. I completely reject a philosophy that it is moral to cut food stamps, to cut healthcare and programs like Headstart. While the Republicans increase defense spending and refuse to even come to the table if it means asking the wealthiest among us to pay a little more in the form of a tax rate increase. I will not stand aside while the Republicans try to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and the middle class without asking more sacrifice from the rich. I also oppose the Medicare plan Ryan had in his budget.

Obama inherited the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. Look up how many jobs per month we were losing before he took office. We’ve been gaining jobs for many months under Obama. No one claims we are where we need to be but the economy is turning around compared to where it was and I’m willing to give it more time.

The auto industry is alive.

The Iraq war is over. And Obama has a plan in place to bring troops home from Afghanistan. While Romney did not even mention Afghanistan in his convention speech. The expense of these 2 wars has been tremendous. And I fear the same neo cons who advised George W Bush advise Romney.

I’m glad because of President Obama children of immigrants, young people who know our country as their home and who pledge alliegance to the same flag I do, today are not living in fear of deportation.

Osama Bin Laden was found under the direction of this Commander in Chief.

There’s more but that’s quite a number of my reasons.

I will also be voting for President Obama’s re-election…friend, you speak my mind.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Stalin and Hitler were NOT liberals!

Not at all. Obama hasn’t said a single thing about taking people’s guns away from them - not rifles, not shotguns, not even handguns, and certainly not bows. He’s been careful to avoid discussing gun ownership. Where did you hear that sort of stuff?

Hitler and Stalin WERE progressives, they were the very definition of it. They were much in the mold of Woodrow Wilson and FDR.

Obama is smart enough to avoid the gun issue, so he is working with regulations to control the sale and manipulate the price of ammunition. I am not stupid. What good is a rifle if a box of 20 rounds costs $50.00. They’ll just price ammunition beyond the reach of most people.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

I will also be voting for President Obama’s re-election…friend, you speak my mind.

Shocker. :yawn:

 

[Ridgerunner]

I am voting third party though I am not yet sure who. Maybe a write in.

What’s that you say? No chance of winning? Thrown away vote?
Not if it expresses my preference and that is what voting is all about.

No, no, no. The purpose of voting is not to express personal idiosyncrasies. That’s the purpose of FaceBook. I’m afraid you have the two confused.

 

[Publisher]

Shocker. :yawn:

As will most if not all of the eligible voters of the Yearly Meeting.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

As will most if not all of the eligible voters of the Yearly Meeting.

I am gonna go flip my switches for the local and Virginia folks, then go home and drink a beer. Better use of my time.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

Hitler and Stalin WERE progressives, they were the very definition of it. They were much in the mold of Woodrow Wilson and FDR.

Sure. Wonderful men. Did so much good for their countries. LOL!

Obama is smart enough to avoid the gun issue, so he is working with regulations to control the sale and manipulate the price of ammunition. I am not stupid. What good is a rifle if a box of 20 rounds costs $50.00. They’ll just price ammunition beyond the reach of most people.

A rifle still works even at $2.50 a round. Did jacking up the price of cigarettes eliminate smoking? People will pay for whatever they want.

 

[Tighty_Whitey]

So I guess using this rationale we can’t vote for Romney either because of his blasphemy and heretical beliefs. I’m with the others saying they will set this one out.

Supporting the lesser of two evils is still supporting evil!

What you are ignoring either purposefully or negligently is that Romney is not planning on implementing his beliefs. Rather Obama is systematically removing religion and especially the Catholic Church from society. Under Obama, within the next four years, the Catholic Church will have to sell its hospitals and no longer be a healthcare provider. If that alone doesn’t make you wake up and smell the totalitarianism I don’t know what will.

 

[Rohanfan]

Stalin and Hitler were NOT liberals!

Not at all. Obama hasn’t said a single thing about taking people’s guns away from them - not rifles, not shotguns, not even handguns, and certainly not bows. He’s been careful to avoid discussing gun ownership. Where did you hear that sort of stuff?

Thank You Rich, I was wondering when somebody was going to correct him.

 

[Ridgerunner]

I am gonna go flip my switches for the local and Virginia folks, then go home and drink a beer. Better use of my time.

I like you, Scott, and agree with you in many things. But sitting out the chance to vote against the rabid supporter of abortion, persecutor of the Church and the degradation of marriage? Wrong. Very wrong.

 

[Bballer32]

Stalin and Hitler were NOT liberals!

They preferred the terms socialists and progressives. If you study WW2 like i do, you will see that the same tactics Hitler used the same strategies that Obama is using today. I know you will not believe me cuz your defending your stand point but its truth and its tough.

Not at all. Obama hasn’t said a single thing about taking people’s guns away from them - not rifles, not shotguns, not even handguns, and certainly not bows. He’s been careful to avoid discussing gun ownership. Where did you hear that sort of stuff?

Yes. In the newest NRA magazine, one of the NRA operators followed all sorts of anti-gun politicians including Barack Obama! Obama voted yes yes yes yes yes yes and yes on all bills against guns and increasing ammo prices. Don’t give me this bologna that he isn’t anti-gun! During his presidency, he put in 2 new court justices who are both EXTREMELY ANTI-GUN!!!

 

[qui_est_ce]

I am gonna go flip my switches for the local and Virginia folks, then go home and drink a beer. Better use of my time.

You need to vote Obama out. Do you really want four more years of him? I know you are definitely not better off than you were four years ago. You have all day to drink your beer.

A VOTE FOR MITT IS A VOTE AGAINST OBAMA.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

Sure. Wonderful men. Did so much good for their countries. LOL!

A rifle still works even at $2.50 a round. Did jacking up the price of cigarettes eliminate smoking? People will pay for whatever they want.

I know more than a few people that quit once the price got up over $5.00 a pack.

Mao Tsetung said that to make an omelette, you have to break a few eggs. Yes, they killed millions, but it was all for the common good.

 

[scipio337]

Actually, Catholic teaching also says this from Cardinal Ratzinger himself:
ewtn.com/library/CURIA/cdfworthycom.htm

I think Matt did a pretty good job listing reasons tha were relevant to him, and I’m betting many more.

And I’ve always wondered (and continue to) what “proportionate reasons” are therre to 1 MILLION DEAD PER YEAR??

Are one million childen per year dying in the street of hunger?

There is no logic involved in any comparison, no matter how you or Matt would like to rationalize it.

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

And I’ve always wondered (and continue to) what “proportionate reasons” are therre to 1 MILLION DEAD PER YEAR??

Are one million childen per year dying in the street of hunger?

There is no logic involved in any comparison, no matter how you or Matt would like to rationalize it.

Making sure that able bodied, but generally unmotivated people get free food is much more important than 1 million dead babies. You lack compassion.

 

[Rich_Olszewski]

If you study WW2 like i do, you will see that the same tactics Hitler used the same strategies that Obama is using today. I know you will not believe me cuz your defending your stand point but its truth and its tough.

Of course I don’t believe you. For one, what countries is Obama preparing to invade?

Yes. In the newest NRA magazine, one of the NRA operators followed all sorts of anti-gun politicians including Barack Obama! Obama voted yes yes yes yes yes yes and yes on all bills against guns and increasing ammo prices. Don’t give me this bologna that he isn’t anti-gun! During his presidency, he put in 2 new court justices who are both EXTREMELY ANTI-GUN

Is that so? What decisions has the Supreme Court - with those two new Justices on board - addressed that deal with gun laws? Actually, they’ve been quite pro-gun, approving concealed cary in D.C. for one.

BTW I put no more stock in any NRA magazine than I do in the Mother Jones magazine.

 

[hannajomar]

I’m voting for Romney. Here’s the main reasons in no particular order:

• I am pro-life, and Obama is certainly in favor of abortion-on-demand. He also thinks it’s okay to force churches to pay for contraception even if it’s against their mission. I’m not sure how extremely pro-life Romney is, but he is the better of the two in this case.
• I was never crazy about Obama’s foreign policy before, but these last weeks shows how truly incompetent he is in this regard. I don’t believe USA’s relations are better with even one country since he’s become President. And the relationship with our only ally in the Middle East, Israel, is much weaker than before. I just prefer Ronald Regan-type foreign policy. I don’t know how good Romney would be at this, but I can’t imagine he will be weaker than Obama has been.
• I believe Romney will be better for the economy than Obama. In this case, I believe that having someone in the white house who knows how to make money will be a good thing. I don’t care that he was born rich, that’s nothing he did. He has used his opportunities the best he could, and I hope he does the same thing for the American economy. Obama, on the other hand, just doesn’t have real-world experience in the economy. To my knowledge, he’s never run a business, has never had to figure out how to meet his payroll, not had much experience in balancing a budget.
• I don’t agree with Obamacare. Our health system needs improvements. But I believe Obamacare will make healthcare more expensive and less accessible.

 

[wendy_w]

I fail to see how someone that calls themselves Catholic can keep supporting
politicians who support abortion. This option does not help women on
any level. Lets promote people and places that support women and their children to obtain a better set of skills to take care of themselves (crisis pregnancy centers, etc.)
The welfare system just holds people hostage it doesn’t teach ways of getting
out from under goverment control. Lets teach young men how to be respectful of women and not just view them as objects. We as a people need to bring back family values where our children matter. No I will not be voting for Obama and I will be voting for Romney not because he is a superior choice, but he better represents what I believe in. I refuse to waste my vote on a 3rd party candidate.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Of course I don’t believe you. For one, what countries is Obama preparing to invade?

We don’t know, any more than we could predict that he would make war on Libya without congressional approval or any compelling national interest to do it. All we really know is that if he wants to unilaterally declare war for reasons all his own, he won’t shrink from doing it.